ANTIFA Now a terrorist organization - He's done it the fucking mad lad actually did it.

[Ivan Shatov]

Been seeing more reports of Antifa moving on more neighborhoods, anyone got anything on that?

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1294988352559734786

They're in Springfield, which is a suburb connected to a college. They've been targeting specific homes.

That's about all I know.

I'd say there's some truth to that, but I also think part of why Antifa hasn't been taken down yet is because it's all so relatively recent. Yeah, Antifa has existed in the United States since the 1980's but it was generally to the fringes of the West Coast punk scene for the majority of its existence and didn't start to get big until around 2016.

Prior to the the 2016 election, the biggest Antifa incidents were the Seattle WTO protests in 1999 and some incidents during the Occupy protests in 2011-2012, primarily in Portland, Seattle, and the San Francisco Bay area. Antifa didn't truly get national and become a household name until 2017 and were mostly lionized by media (despite RCA's claims to the contrary) and left alone by the Feds until the summer of this year.

Over in the George Floyd riots thread, someone posted pictures of official documents about 215 major federal indictment charges against Antifa-affiliated groups for the activities of the last few months. I do think Antifa has (or at least had) a lot of backing from the DNC and the corporate bigwigs but that might be collapsing if Antifa keeps pushing their luck.

I think that might also explain why practically every major company simultaneously endorsed BLM and championed the riots within two days of the DOJ's terrorist designation of Antifa back at the end of May when this was just kicking off.

Even with the expert intel gathering the Feds and their contractors have, you need to build up a very strong case against Antifa/BLM and their affiliated groups and individuals.

It has to be done at the federal level if you want it to stick and to prevent catch-and-release DA's or turbo-woke judges in some West Coast urban hellhole from undermining it. Even the most fast-tracked federal investigations and indictments tend to take a lot more time than state-level ones.

I do think there's enough evidence to suggest that both wings of the government are wanting to crack down on Antifa as things continue to worsen, but both are also hobbled for reasons that mainly relate to the 2020 election. Both parties are essentially handicapped by this, albeit for different reasons.

Trump and Barr want to take down Antifa as it is, and I think the DNC have a contingency plan to stop any Antifa excesses if they win the election as well.

Maybe... can't pretend I know more than I do.

Do you remember Jose Alcoff?

https://archive.vn/N8x4s

https://archive.vn/SDykv

Goon mobbed up with 10 other Antifa members, beat up a couple of marines, got charged with terrorism.

Alcoff worked for high profile Democrats like Maxine Walters & Sherrod Brown, his mother is a producer on Democracy Now, he worked with Americans for Financial Reform (Communist nest.)

Can't see where he ever got a court date, much less a conviction. Pretty sure this is characteristic of the leadership, spoiled rich kids who can get away with murder.

https://archive.vn/wip/kBKv2

 

[AnOminous]

This lead to involvement with Anonymous and eventually to conflicts with the FBI and DoD Contractors. If you don't know who Stratfor and HB Gary are, look them up - they're work can be described as having your own private CIA and companies use their services for all sorts of nefarious reasons.

Note, Brown was threatened with DECADES in prison for posting a url to leaked data that fake news outlets were linking to freely without any fear of prosecution, because the prosecution of Brown was completely fake. Later they dropped that after he fucked up under the ratfucking and psyops and flipped out, saying things he could then be prosecuted for as "threats."

Also by comparing leaders of antifa to Brown you're really making them look better than they are. Whether or not Brown is now or has been sympathetic to antifa, I don't know, but the leaders are not remotely heroic, have not been persecuted, and have no excuse for their behavior. The comparison to Brown is actually pretty insulting to Brown.

 

[F_Break]

Been seeing more reports of Antifa moving on more neighborhoods, anyone got anything on that?

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1294988352559734786

It's been happening for a while because there are no consequences for anything they do anymore. The black guy threatening to burn down the neighborhood just won a local democratic primary for a Minnesota House seat right before he pulled this shit. As far as I can tell there hasn't been any official condemnation from the Minnesota DFL.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's been happening for a while because there are no consequences for anything they do anymore. The black guy threatening to burn down the neighborhood just won a local democratic primary for a Minnesota House seat right before he pulled this shit. As far as I can tell there hasn't been any official condemnation from the Minnesota DFL.

can't condemn a black man for expressing the trauma of black bodies that have suffered a thousand years of persecution at the hands of the white man

The funny thing was the anarchists protesting against the wto during 1990s would have been consider alt right by today's antifa.

Talk to enough alt righters and it becomes clear they are not facists. No sir. They still 1990s anarchists but forced to be something else they are not.

that's the dumbfuck thing about all of this. I'm a god damn lefty by any reasonable standard, but they'd call me a fascist because I hammer economic divides, reject racial politics, and think that free speech is a fucking good idea.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Note, Brown was threatened with DECADES in prison for posting a url to leaked data that fake news outlets were linking to freely without any fear of prosecution, because the prosecution of Brown was completely fake. Later they dropped that after he fucked up under the ratfucking and psyops and flipped out, saying things he could then be prosecuted for as "threats."

Also by comparing leaders of antifa to Brown you're really making them look better than they are. Whether or not Brown is now or has been sympathetic to antifa, I don't know, but the leaders are not remotely heroic, have not been persecuted, and have no excuse for their behavior. The comparison to Brown is actually pretty insulting to Brown.

In response, I have a tendency to group Antifa with Black Lives Matter and other organizations, mostly because of their nature as Communist front groups.

Many of the pieces about Defunding the Police hit on the same themes Brown brings up. I don't think of him as a hack, he's someone with original insights and a way of phrasing concepts that's distinct. He's gone dark since 2018 and I don't believe he would have done so without a compelling reason. I give him credit for sticking by his principles and having a sense of fight most people can't identify with.

Given his involvement in Project PM and Anonymous, would be surprised to learn he's not involved in Antifa in a meaningful way. For that matter, I recognize themes and content that is distinctly similar to published work progressive luminaries like Zack Exley, Becky Bonds, Judith Freeman, Rosalyn Lemieux, Laura Packard, Ethan Roeder, Jamie McGonnigal, China Brotsky, Deepak Bhargava, Jessy Tolkan, and others.

The point is, even if their work is being copied, it's being copied by people in director level positions capable of distributing it to cells. There's zero chance no one has been in touch with them and none of them are involved. If someone wanted to reveal the leadership of Antifa and move on them, a deep dive into comms over the last 10 years would likely reveal the connections. There are groups capable of this.

 

[AnOminous]

Given his involvement in Project PM and Anonymous, would be surprised to learn he's not involved in Antifa in a meaningful way. For that matter, I recognize themes and content that is distinctly similar to published work progressive luminaries like Zack Exley, Becky Bonds, Judith Freeman, Rosalyn Lemieux, Laura Packard, Ethan Roeder, Jamie McGonnigal, China Brotsky, Deepak Bhargava, Jessy Tolkan, and others.

Just because antifa appropriates popular anti-establishment rhetoric up front to hide their actual goals doesn't mean anyone who shares those opinions shares their hidden opinions. Also Jamie McGonnigal? The weeb VA who married his own identical twin? Wtf does he have to do with Barrett Brown?

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Just because antifa appropriates popular anti-establishment rhetoric up front to hide their actual goals doesn't mean anyone who shares those opinions shares their hidden opinions.

That's an interesting perspective.

ANTIFA publishes content that strongly resembles that of Zack Exley. He ran the 2016 Bernie Sanders campaign, which explicitly called for revolution. Quick review of Project Vertias videos will show campaign staff on the 2020 campaign speaking openly about Marxist revolutionary activity.

Does that mean they are appropriating Zack's work? It's easier for me to believe Zack is involved in the upper eschelons of ANTIFA. He's been a labor organizer, organized for MoveOn.org, worked closely with luminaries in the Democratic Party, and lead workshops about the means of revolution at NOI workshops for years. This is what he's been doing, now with fire.

Very similar profile to that of Joseph Alcoff, who worked with Democrats, lead Americans for Financial Reform, and was arrested for assaulting 2 US Marines in Philadelphia.

I don't have any direct evidence to point to Zack's involvement. When the radicals move into direct action, it's easier for me to accept they've aligned themselves with the thought leaders who have been calling for it for years. Passages from Zack's book Rules for Revolutionaries (not to be confused with Rules for Radicals) are commonly quoted in their flyers and instructional guides.

As for the rest of the names I listed, ANTIFA uses the playbooks they cooked up. Would be shocked to learn none of them are involved with the organization.

https://archive.vn/NKnhy

Also Jamie McGonnigal? The weeb VA who married his own identical twin? Wtf does he have to do with Barrett Brown?

Jamie McGonnigal was community director for the New Organizing Institute. He organized a conference called Rootscamp, which was training grounds for radicals, teaching them to use the latest technology to achieve social change.

Jamie now works for SOCAP, which is a social entrepreneurship community. Members invest in projects based on social impact instead of expected return. Most members have invested in Freedom Road Socialist Organizations like BLM, DSA, and Communist Party USA. And Jamie's in the center of it, still acting as a nexus point between traditional politicians and radical fringe groups.

Groups like SOCAP, Echoing Green, Ashoka, GIIN, etc have acted as funnels for laundering money to these groups since the 70s. It's a racket that should be shut down.

https://archive.md/zT43G

https://archive.vn/Z6UZP

 

[AnOminous]

Groups like SOCAP, Echoing Green, Ashoka, GIIN, etc have acted as funnels for laundering money to these groups since the 70s. It's a racket that should be shut down.

And Barrett Brown is in this where? He was involved in Anonymous, but was never a particularly good fit. The goon wing of Anonymous has a lot of people who later ended up SJWs and probably antifa too. Brown was a pretty prolific attention whore which made him an odd choice to be a "spokesperson" for a group he really didn't speak for in the first place, but then, early Anonymous didn't pick spokespeople anyway, and anyone who got picked by the press as one was more or less by definition not going to be legitimate.

I don't even know what he's done since 2016 when he got out of prison other than maybe heroin, or if he's stayed clean both drug-wise and legally.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

And Barrett Brown is in this where? He was involved in Anonymous, but was never a particularly good fit. The goon wing of Anonymous has a lot of people who later ended up SJWs and probably antifa too. Brown was a pretty prolific attention whore which made him an odd choice to be a "spokesperson" for a group he really didn't speak for in the first place, but then, early Anonymous didn't pick spokespeople anyway, and anyone who got picked by the press as one was more or less by definition not going to be legitimate.

I don't even know what he's done since 2016 when he got out of prison other than maybe heroin, or if he's stayed clean both drug-wise and legally.

He went dark. Pretty sure it was to organize for ANTIFA.

I couldn't read this interview without thinking about speeches I've heard at the start of riots. If he's not working for them, he's losing money.

https://archive.vn/uJz4Y

 

[Ahriman]

They showed up at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and... it didn't go well.

 

[AnOminous]

They showed up at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and... it didn't go well.

I'm at a total loss as to how fucking dumb you have to be to think this would have gone any better than that. They're lucky the cops were there.

 

[Puff]

Antifa fights Proud Boys in Kalamazoo Michigan.

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2020/08/rally-turns-violent-as-proud-boys-met-by-counter-protesters-in-downtown-kalamazoo.html

Over time coverage went from "Proud Boys attack the homeless" to Antifa ran them off to Antifa started a brawl.

Kalamazoo City Commissioner says counterprotesters fueled violence at Proud Boys rally

A Kalamazoo City Commissioner called out a Kalamazoo pastor who organized a unity rally the same day the Proud Boys planned to protest. The Southern Poverty Law Center considered The Proud Boys a hate group. Several fights broke out when the Proud Boys came face-to-face with counterprotesters in...

wwmt.com

 

[AnOminous]

Over time coverage went from "Proud Boys attack the homeless" to Antifa ran them off to Antifa started a brawl.

So the preliminary bullshit spin evaporated as facts came out and made it obvious they couldn't maintain the narrative of peaceful innocent "anti"fascists attacking violent Nazis.

 

[Puff]

So the preliminary bullshit spin evaporated as facts came out and made it obvious they couldn't maintain the narrative of peaceful innocent "anti"fascists attacking violent Nazis.

Pretty much. In the livestream you see exactly who starts the fight. I have it, but it's around a gig. No idea if you can still find it on youtube.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

So in 2020 we have Communist terrorists running around terrorizing our cities. And then the trailer for the new Call of Duty drops. It has a Cold War setting.

And features Yuri Bezmenov

 

[Meat Target]

So in 2020 we have Communist terrorists running around terrorizing our cities. And then the trailer for the new Call of Duty drops. It has a Cold War setting.

And features Yuri Bezmenov

Holy fucking based. I can hear the brains of Games Journalists popping like popcorn already:

"Unfair smearing of democratic socialism! Militarism! Fragile white male supremacy! Imperialism!"

 

[HarblMcDavid]

Mmm, be careful assuming that's the reference we think it is. If you search for Yuri Bezmenov one of the first results is someone talking about him in relation to the fucking Mueller report and trying to make it not about who Bezmenov was talking about because muh russia.

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/34-years-ago-a-kgb-defector-described-america-today

Still, I am hoping this is the result of a "secret asshole" on the dev team having their plan to expose the world to this bear very mainstream fruit at an opportune time.

Edit: clarity on the location of secret asshole and their intentions

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

So the riots were... *checks notes* ...one really fucking expensive ad campaign for the new Call of Duty game?

 

[I can't imagine]

Mmm, be careful assuming that's the reference we think it is. If you search for Yuri Bezmenov one of the first results is someone talking about him in relation to the fucking Mueller report and trying to make it not about who Bezmenov was talking about because muh russia.

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/34-years-ago-a-kgb-defector-described-america-today

Still, I am hoping this is the result of a "secret asshole" on the dev team having their plan to expose the world to this bear very mainstream fruit at an opportune time.

Edit: clarity on the location of secret asshole and their intentions

In fairness, that's hardly the only article making reference to it from the last couple years, and most of the others make it pretty explicitly clear he was talking about a covert communist takeover. I'd suspect they probably didn't read the one article from bigthink.com and use that as the basis for their trailer.

 

[DeadFish]

Has anyone here tried to dox Yuri?
Seriously.