Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 18 14.0%
  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 111 86.0%

  • Total voters
    129

Kot Johansson

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Founded in 1976, Apple, Inc. (formerly Apple Computer, Inc.) is probably the world's most well-known technology company.
If you've ever owned one of their products and want to talk about your devices, experiences, etc., or if you just want to say how much Apple sucks, or how annoying their users/fans are, then this is the thread for you.
 

He Who Points And Laughs

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Apple = Gay
#Truth

I used to be in a gay marriage, my wife was a macfag. Thankfully, one of the OSX updates sent to her macmini bricked it. So I did a factory reset, and it still wouldn't boot. I thought that Linux would probably boot it, so I put Linux Mint on a thumbdrive and it booted, so I installed Mint. I can now happily report that I'm in a loving heterosexual marriage with my now Linux using wife.
 

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I bought an ipod video to take on a deployment for porn and it served admirably. It didn't last long after I got back, but it got beat to hell. The only complaint was the retarded click wheel. I have an original Zune HD from 10 years ago that's still going strong, although that isn't really a fair comparison because it doesn't have a mechanical harddrive. My favorite Apple product has always been:
 

Pissmaster

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Apple's really gone downhill hard ever since Steve Jobs left, but even Jobs had some crazy ideas. He made fun of the idea of phones ever being larger than the first iPhone, saying they looked like skateboards, as the first five iPhones had 3.5" screens at a time when Androids were well into 4"+. The very first iPhone to come out after he croaked got a screen size upgrade. The 5 and 5S were pretty solid, but the 6 series really kicked off where Apple started going full rétard, with Apple scrambling to downplay bendgate on the 6 Plus. The headphone jack got the axe with the iPhone 7 series, and everything X and up has that retarded looking notch. Prices started skyrocketing, too - the iPhone 11 Pro Max with 512gb of storage is a $1500 phone. There's no stylus like the Galaxy Note, either.

Still though, iPhones from back then were stable and lasted a pretty long time, especially compared to Androids that were almost universally shitty and degraded hard after their first year. Just don't update their firmware. iPhones slow down and turn into dogshit with every major firmware update to try and push you into buying a new one as much as possible.

Their laptops from around 2010 were pretty nice, too. They had some of the best keyboards and trackpads I've ever used, though mine would start heating up to uncomfortable heights while even just watching YouTube through Firefox, so I had to use Safari and put up with ads, since that didn't heat up my laptop. Trying to run just about anything intensive seemed fruitless, with even lightweight Steam games heating it up to uncomfortable levels, and the piss poor ventilation didn't help matters at all. I even managed to kill my entire logic board after playing Borderlands for about 10 minutes. Fortunately I got it swapped out since I bought Applecare, but, still. Shit, man. Over the entire life of that laptop, I had to bring it into Apple three times, and that $350 warranty actually ended up paying for itself twice over. Not that Apple's "geniuses" are that bright, since I had to bring back the laptop once after they accidentally unplugged the keyboard's backlight. Much later on when I opened it up, I found that they broke off one of the battery tabs on the inside when swapping my battery. Classy.

These days, Macbook keyboards and trackpads just use haptics rather than actual mechanical clicks, and they feel like someone spilled soda in them. I'm not a fan at all. Pretty much every single piece of productivity software I ever use has a Windows equivalent that's either just as good or better, so I don't think I'll ever buy another Mac unless I can get a really, really good deal. They're lovely machines for shitposting and typing, but anything serious seems to catch the poor bastards on fire.

Oh, and there's a weird, consistent stuck-up attitude whenever you try to look up specific problems with Macs. If I could think of enough examples, it might be worth a thread here. Like, you'll encounter an error code, you'll search for it, and you'll find someone asking about it on a Mac forum, and get an answer from someone who has a haughty attitude, where they talk down to the OP like they're a complete idiot, unworthy of using the glorious machine that is a Macbook. Sometimes even with terrible advice, insisting the problem was with the actual user, only to find out that it's a glitch or some shit. I really wish I could remember a specific example, but I saw this often. Nothing else I've ever searched for, EVER, had this kind of haughty attitude. My God it was so fucking offputting. It's just a computer, you fucking losers. Literally anyone can own one if I gave them $2,000.

Macs are really losing their place these days. Android phones have gotten pretty remarkable, Surface tablets are steadily growing, Windows 10 laptops are solid and affordable, there are countless smartwatch brands, Apple TV is a joke compared to Roku and even Chromecast, and Amazon & Google are dominant in the smarthome business. Ten years ago today, the only two Android phones around were slow and shitty, while the iPhone, even the first one, was still a beast of a phone. Windows laptops still couldn't game at all and their battery life was measured in minutes, compared to a Macbook getting around 5 hours. And the iPad would launch the following year, becoming almost the only tablet in the whole game, because for whatever reason, nobody could ever create a competent Android tablet.

Apple's still going strong, though it's getting to be more and more a Boomer brand. Everything they make is pretty stodgy, with very bland designs and soulless interfaces, but if you're used to them, you're never gonna be surprised when a new one's released. Jobs croaked 8 years ago, and took with him all the inspiration and talent that made Apple worthwhile. By no means is Steve Jobs perfect, the guy was a lunatic who had some pretty bizarre concepts (apparently Apple TV as it is now was based on his ideas?), but his iron fist approach to running the company seemed to push a level of quality control that was practically unheard of. Under Gay Tim's administration, Apple seems to be moreso a fashion brand, appealing to those that care more about being seen wearing the latest Apple Watch and using the newest iPhone. That's the reason why I think Apple's sacrificed quality and longevity to make shit as thin as possible. You don't need to impress nerds ranting on forums when middle-age suburbanites living off of trust funds buy your things in droves because they don't wanna look poor.
 

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you'll encounter an error code, you'll search for it, and you'll find someone asking about it on a Mac forum, and get an answer from someone who has a haughty attitude, where they talk down to the OP like they're a complete idiot, unworthy of using the glorious machine that is a Macbook. Sometimes even with terrible advice, insisting the problem was with the actual user, only to find out that it's a glitch or some shit. I really wish I could remember a specific example, but I saw this often. Nothing else I've ever searched for, EVER, had this kind of haughty attitude.
That's pretty typical. Maybe its because I use certain Linux distros where they crucify you for not dumping particular log files in the OP.

As for Apple, I used to have a real hate boner for them because my family went exclusively Apple back in 2000 when OS 9 was still around. I wanted to play computer games on the family computer, so I was only left with games by Blizzard.

As I've gotten older and learned to let go of my adolescent anti-fanboying, I've come to appreciate Apple as a company that combined innovative design with great marketing. I've been meaning to grab old ads for Apple computers for my swipe file. I've been thinking about getting an old iPod, but I'm not sure the actual audio output was even decent on those things.
 

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That's pretty typical. Maybe its because I use certain Linux distros where they crucify you for not dumping particular log files in the OP.

As for Apple, I used to have a real hate boner for them because my family went exclusively Apple back in 2000 when OS 9 was still around. I wanted to play computer games on the family computer, so I was only left with games by Blizzard.

As I've gotten older and learned to let go of my adolescent anti-fanboying, I've come to appreciate Apple as a company that combined innovative design with great marketing. I've been meaning to grab old ads for Apple computers for my swipe file. I've been thinking about getting an old iPod, but I'm not sure the actual audio output was even decent on those things.
Yeah, that includes Linux questions too, but I can handle those kinds of autists. They might act like stuck-up pricks that expect even grandma to build programs from source code, but at least you might learn something from them.

Apple has this weird unspoken mantra where if you don't have the latest stuff, fuck you. It's always struck me as odd, since they just don't seem to have any respect or admiration for legacy products, despite Apple having some pretty interesting designs over the years. Like, look at these computers:

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I'd love to get one of those G4s in particular (the one with the dome base), I've always liked the design of it. These days, it's pretty much just "here's a big screen with an L-shaped stand, again, unchanged since around 2004".

Cost aside and everything, I've grown to sort of have a hateboner of my own for them, if anything because Apple stuff is just such a hassle at times. Using external hard drives between Mac and Windows requires you to jump through some annoying hoops because macOS doesn't support NTFS and Windows doesn't support HFS+ without special programs. I never did find a good unzipper for Mac because every unzipping program just dumped every file out into its folder instead of opening an interface where I could choose which files to extract, like on Windows. Mouse acceleration was noticeably different on Mac, so you'd be clumsy with a Mac's mouse if you're used to Windows and vice versa. The FN key is where CTRL is on every other keyboard and vice versa. And these days, there's some seriously anti-consumer BS like fully ditching USB-A at a time when there were almost no USB-C accessories at all, and no swappable components whatsoever. You can't even upgrade your SSD. It's all just so designed to keep you in their ecosystem, and buy all new stuff all the time. But, considering the fashion angle Apple's been taking, I guess it works. Power users who know their shit can just migrate to Windows, while trend chasers can keep scrambling to buy whatever Gay Tim whips out on stage at every keynote.
 

He Who Points And Laughs

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Powerleveling a bit, but

My first computers were Apple. Family had a ][e, and I saved up from summer jobs and eventually pick up a ][gs as a teenager. I switched to PC after that and never really used macs until I started dating my, now, wife. Her training was in design and macs were the bog standard. By the time we got married, I was already a Linux autist, and she was a macfag by default. However, she wasn't into the details of computers, just the tools she needed for work. She always did prefer the way my systems operated... but she just had an aversion to the command line.

My issues with macs started with her G3. This was in the days of mac OS 8. If you had too many processes running, it would just stop working until you killed some off. Linux always had /swap, so this was very alien for me. When OSX rolled out, it was an improvement, mostly because it was just a BSD with macshit sprayed on top... but it still wouldn't do exactly what you told it to do. It held your hand like a child. And that, fundamentally, is what annoys me about Apple products. They assume their user base to be just incompetent.

The few macbooks I've had were "gifts" from employers, and the fist thing I do is install Linux. Their hardware is decent, I just have zero interest in their software.


And her old G3 eventually died off and became a nice case for my current headless Gentoo server.
 

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And her old G3 eventually died off and became a nice case for my current headless Gentoo server.
G3 is still a real pussy magnet.
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By the way, does anyone remember that dinosaur game that used to come default with Macs? It was called Nanosaur. I don't remember it being good BUT ITS A FUCKING VELOCERAPTOR THAT SHOOTS MISSILES.
 

He Who Points And Laughs

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G3 is still a real pussy magnet.
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By the way, does anyone remember that dinosaur game that used to come default with Macs? It was called Nanosaur. I don't remember it being good BUT ITS A FUCKING VELOCERAPTOR THAT SHOOTS MISSILES.
This one is a B&W tower, not an iMac. So less pussy and more nerds.
 
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This one is a B&W tower, not an iMac. So less pussy and more nerds.
Ah that explains it being headless. If you're looking for a fun project with it that isn't just INSTALL GENTOO, I hear Amiga in its later years used PowerPC CPUs, which those era of Macs had. MorphOS is suppose to run on some models, may want to look into it.
 
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