Are American Leftists ever going to turn on the Democrats? Is 'Lesser Evil' a thing?

Are Leftists best served by voting Democrat?

  • YES

    Votes: 10 18.5%
  • Of course, the alternative is Republicans because third parties don't get votes

    Votes: 4 7.4%
  • Of course, Fox News told me Joe Biden loves Socialism

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Of course, although campaign funding from bankers is pushing them right we're reversing that

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maybe, otherwise Republicans will get in and side with the same corporations Democrats side with

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maybe, my Democrat is a good Democrat

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Maybe, the situation just is so beyond my ability to understand

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • No, but I will never vote Republican because they're mean like the rich Democrat voter

    Votes: 2 3.7%
  • No, but I will never vote third party because third parties don't get votes

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • No, and the democratic party must be destroyed

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • Voting is tardy and homosexual

    Votes: 9 16.7%
  • Eat the Rich

    Votes: 4 7.4%
  • Only when America runs out of cash, will it really go Commie or Fash

    Votes: 8 14.8%
  • NO

    Votes: 8 14.8%

  • Total voters
    54

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Americans are all familiar with the concept of "Voting for the Lesser Evil", but is that really a thing so much as journalists try to make it out to be? Democrats have controlled major cities and many states for years now, and what have they done? We hear so much about how States' Rights are a Confederate talking point, but then what do Democrats do when they get in office? Are they just talking heads pocketing bribes? Are municipal and state elections just stepping stones on a career like the show The Wire depicted?

Kiwifam, will leftists stop falling for the game of blame when there are no Republicans to blame?

The Democrats swear and swear that they care:
  • Housing as a human right regardless of personal sanitation or sanity!​
  • The nebulous concept of Equality is professed constantly​
  • Their fight for Healthcare for All​
  • State contributors to their concept of Climate Change​
  • Claims of Racial Injustice​
  • Pushing radical education ideas of Kids being State Property​
  • Progressive Taxation rather than regressive sales taxes​
  • Sick leave​
  • Educational debt relief​
  • Social Safety nets to ensure unearned minimums​
  • Literal Gay Stuff​
  • Worker's Rights and Labor Unions​
What do the Democrats actually do once they have unlimited power?

The Democrats may claim that housing isn't a product of your end quality, but in fact the reverse that housing ensures some sort of disadvantage in achieving your full potential. Yet in California, the Democrats allow housing to sky-rocket ensuring a brutal outcome for most families. They actively block high-density residential zoning. Why? Rich boomers telling them no, and other NIMBY. The rich may allow Democrats to rule, but hold them to account for their progressive tendencies. 55.2 percent of California households lived in residences they owned in the third quarter of 2018. If you are the 44.8% of California households and you vote Democrat, then you are a sucker. It will never be demanded of them that they just to find a place for affordable housing, they instead just decline every proposal separately citing various conflicting reasons and then move onto another issue without leftists hurting them in the ballot box.

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They claim that taxation is regressive, that the majority pay a higher percentage of their total income than the rich do. There is even a biblical parallel in Mark 12:41-44: And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living. Which calls on Christians to measure fairness by the percentage of income or wealth instead of absolute number. In Washington, Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates pay far less in taxes than the majority of the state by a factor of six. They pay 3% of their income, while the poorest pay 18%. There are less regressive taxes in literally all of the Republican states, Washington is at the bottom of progressive taxation.

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However even if you own a residence, and can afford the taxes from being too poor, then you still have the hurdle of poor education schemes. Democrats promise wonderful schools, but funding is hard and CRT is cheap. So the roof leaks in the black schools but just as Leftism believes Religion is the opium of the people so are the Black kids given Moral Instruction rather than Mathematics. Meanwhile, Rich Neighborhoods with lighter skin colors fund their schools and teach CRT as a method of controlling the poor in all the ways the Democrats today do. Show your morals and lead the under-educated of tomorrow by the nose. Not in Republican states, but Obama's state of Illinois. The more liberal the zip code, the less likely they are to pool their money to ensure minimums for children. Mold and Winter winds pass through schools from one end to the other in liberal states who vote Democrat.

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The end of voting Blue seems to be to ensure that:
  • Blue States are where Housing is the most unaffordable​
  • Blue States are where generational poverty is least addressed​
  • Blue States are where education disadvantages are the most apparent​
  • Blue States are where the homeless are treated the worst and appear in the highest numbers​
  • Blue States are where income inequality is increasing the fastest​
  • Blue States are where the affluent show up to the marches to appear like they care, but sabotage every proposal in detail​
  • Blue States are the problem​
It is up to the leftist voter to ensure that a candidate is held to their promises not the Republican, and Democrats have gotten lazier and lazier in their dependence on journalism to successfully distract leftists from the social problems persisting and nothing actually getting done. Instead Democrats are free to be nice to the Rich and agree with NIMBY voters because they're always looking to the next office and never the cause. Blue State voters do not see the state level as important, and so the wealthy are able to control their states and secure safe neighborhoods instead leftists securing their progressive agendas. This has gone on for decades, and shows no sign of left-wing voters waking up to the truth, instead leftists are strung along by threats of Republicans getting into power. Maybe the poor get what they deserve?
 
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Moderates will go rightward, leftists will continue to rationalize voting for the neoliberal establishment because they've replaced their religious identity with politics and would rather be duped into voting for their oppressor than vote for a *gasp* Republican, even as the party moves in ever a more populist direction.
 

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When Democrats are in power and the American peoples' standard of living drops, they get the blame. When Republicans are in power, they get the blame. Who's in control matters more than who's at fault. Look at the results from Virginia in that context, it should tell you everything you need to know.

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When the left wants to swing more right, the Dems will go with them. They won't vote Republican, because they are ideologically opposed.

Until everyone stops fighting the right v left fight, and starts fighting the working man v elites fight, nothing much will change, regardless of R/D.

Most people will vote for their team anyway, it's the nature of two party, adversarial politics. Even if it's a pile of horseshit with an R or D next to it, people won't give it a second thought.
 

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Only someone with brain damage would support any of these liberal uniparties we have in the west.
 

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The yank brand of "liberal", that is lefti-ish without the socialism, its the new religion of the rich

Any politician who supports this, no matter if he killed a black guy while anal raping his daughter, will get unlimited funds from the superrich as long as he converts to this religion, just look at your fucking president

Every liberal content you see its being artificially pushed, every blog, meme and video has money behind it, nothing happens organically because they never get nearly enough views to be pushed to the top by the algorithms let alone be profitable on their own

Shit like patreon made it ridiculously easy for the rich to bankroll hacks like contratroon who went from nothing to getting more money than big ethots like belle delphine. The "people" who watch contratroon are broke as fuck, they are not paying the bills. But they are the kind of "people" the superrich are using as golems who do it for free. These golems have turned out to be far easier to manipulate than fat boomer MIGAs ever were since anything that the mainstream media pushes they eat that shit with a smile, no resistance whatsoever

Even if the money train ends these leftist golems will keep pushing this shit for free because like any cult they cant admit their prophets are fake
 

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I mean they have, or rather there is certainly a populist left morphing in various in-official capacities.
The "populist right" if it can be called so has more strongly reformed / taken hold of the republican party while the left on the other hand may splinter the democrats.

New York Times actually did a good piece on the problems facing the democrats - yeah I cant believe they can produce good shit anymore either but they did this time. The ending is still obviously clouded judgement but the rest is quality stuff. Check it out:



It's not the first time Democrats and Republicans have "switched" places on various issues. Keeping the plebs guessing is always good. "The new enemy is Eurasia" etc.

Personally I'm hoping both reasonable and reflective sides of the two parties join forces and challenge the establishment that simply from holding on to power too long has rotten roots.
 

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Bait and switch with the three different questions.

Also that video with mr. (((applebaum))) is not going to give you a path out of this mess.
 

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I wish I could rate OP late as fuck cause wow what a refreshing and original idea that has never once been beaten to death.
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I'm a tad tardy, yes it is true. I recently had a run-in with a hyper-liberal and their walking talking caricature of a life inspired beating something to death one way or the other. I'll go back to getting my fresh takes from Based Tim Pool. Thank you for your time.

Also that video with mr. (((applebaum)))
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Wow, what do you mean by that? Are you some sort of antisemite? In the current year? Wow.

Bait and switch with the three different questions.
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Yes. I've seen multiple SJW types talk about how the democrats are racist and transphobic. They'll talk about their spiffy third party candidates. But they're liberals so they puss out and secretly vote for the democrats. All talk.

I'm just wondering can we ever stop arguing about micro aggressions and fix the goddamn potholes?
 

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I doubt it, look at how many women have pronouns in their instagram bio and will defend China with their whole being. We're going to get full on Weimar society mixed with CCP social credit systems.
 

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Big surprise, people with houses they spent a fuckton on dont want to tank their lives work by letting the city re zone and drop a big "affordable housing" development next to them, bringing in all that crime, drugs, gangs, violence, litter, and ruining their treasured community. The answer isn't government subsidized housing. Its private developers buying everyone out and making super high end condos that dont bring the type of riff raff that destroy the community. You dont have to add housing supply on the low end - you can add it on the high end too and it will still exert supply and demand market pressures.

Or go rehab a shithole. Why are you building projects in the rich neighborhood in the first place.

Dumbass leftists think government solves anything when pretty much all it does is create moral hazards that entrench bad situations.

Why do rich libs in towns in Cali vote against dumbass housing policies? Maybe cause they care about their families? Maybe they didn't vote for Newsome and the other cucks, maybe they didn't vote at all. Maybe when push comes to shove they understand some basic economics and that's how they wound up in a $5 million dollar house in the first place.
 

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Nah.

What scares me about American leftists - and to be fair this isn't just the left, Q tards are obviously a thing - is that facts literally mean nothing to them. Take Antifa, for instance. Plenty of people on the left wholeheartedly believe that Antifa doesn't exist, that the only people who talk about Antifa are right-wing operatives, and that everyone who dresses up in black bloc is a right-winger trying to discredit "peaceful racial justice protests", because they saw it on MSNBC, Occupy Democrats, or whatever their source of big corp-approved misinformation is, and so it must be true. AOC could ritually burn a stack of $100 bills while chanting "no refunds", and people would still support her because "yass, slay kween".

I'm not saying that left-wing politics is bad in and of itself; some of my friends are leftists, and I learn pretty heavily to the left on economic issues. What I'm saying is that the left in the US has turned itself into a cult based around worshipping a group of neoliberals and grifters who think organising drag queen story times is better than listening to the working class, and it's scary to see people who will deny what they saw with their own eyes because CNN said something different. Me and @Hollywood Hulk Hogan laugh a lot about Q tards who insist that Trump's going to come back because Real Raw News said so, but I find people who insist that the Dems actually care about working people because Palmer Report said so just as weird and, honestly, creepy.
 

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