Are Anti-Fascist and Liberals becoming the Monsters they so despise? -

[Vex Overmind]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-neo-nazi-stabbed-20160626-snap-htmlstory.html

After reading this article, it perturbs me that a group that espouses rhetoric such as all people are equal, unless if you happen to have views that contradict or is the outright opposite, are somehow inferior to theirs. Seven people were stabbed and beaten to death by a provoked mob of leftist. Sure, I know that there are white supremacist groups who want to become the next Montana Militia or Sam Hyde's, but these Anti-Fascist groups are going to become more of a threat to others that simply just have differing opinions.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

That would imply that they are getting better. They used to have bad ideas with a good methodology whereas the right used to have good ideas with bad methodology, now both have bad methodology but only the right has good ideas

 

[Sailor_Jupiter]

I foresee the division in the country getting worse and worse- possibly until a minor war breaks out. It's so depressing and exhausting... I remember when I was growing up all the children from different groups played together and didn't fight each other. To think, it's become this. I've realized now that no political group can stop it, and politics don't really matter anymore. The country's in a mess. TBH I'm just hoping to get sick with something fatal and die before it gets much worse. Watching this happen to my country has almost completely broken me. I don't even have the energy to get out of bed some days... I grew up in the Deep South but we never had things like nazi rallies or leftist riots when I was growing up. And since most of this is racial there's no place left in the world for biracials like my family. It's just so unnerving. I wish people could just get along. It's so awful. I'm just so tired of all of this. I wish I could just fall asleep for a few decades until it's over.

 

[Online Violence]

The world is, for all the awful shit that still happens, better today by any metric than at any point in the past. This shit and much worse happened when you were young, more often and to a greater degree, you just didn't see it.
The advent of the Information Age has just made the world a much, much smaller place, and it magnifies the dark underbelly of humanity to an extent most people would not have been aware of, and still aren't. You still have to have a sort of sick fascination, or drive for knowledge, or ambition, or some other reason, professional or personal, for "looking into the void", so to speak, to confront the reality of human nature. There's also more pointless distractions and possibilities for escapism than ever before, into more and more isolated containments, further and further removed from a common reality

 

[autisticdragonkin]

The world is, for all the awful shit that still happens, better today by any metric than at any point in the past. This shit and much worse happened when you were young, more often and to a greater degree, you just didn't see it.
The advent of the Information Age has just made the world a much, much smaller place, and it magnifies the dark underbelly of humanity to an extent most people would not have been aware of, and still aren't. You still have to have a sort of sick fascination, or drive for knowledge, or ambition, or some other reason, professional or personal, for "looking into the void", so to speak, to confront the reality of human nature. There's also more pointless distractions and possibilities for escapism than ever before, into more and more isolated containments, further and further removed from a common reality

I do believe though that since the advent of the new left liberals have been much more dogmatic than they were previously due to back then more just being against monarchy and dictatorship but perfectly OK with other social practices that were not antidemocratic

 

[KingGeedorah]

I can't wait for Brown Shirts to be in again.

 

[Online Violence]

I do believe though that since the advent of the new left liberals have been much more dogmatic than they were previously due to back then more just being against monarchy and dictatorship but perfectly OK with other social practices that were not antidemocratic

That's completely normal, they've been in power for a while. They went from "rebels" to being the establishment. It's just the pendulum swinging. If/When this current wave of disatisfaction reaches a point where it becomes the new status quo, it will be just as entrenched and unwilling to give up power.

 

[AnOminous]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-neo-nazi-stabbed-20160626-snap-htmlstory.html

After reading this article, it perturbs me that a group that espouses rhetoric such as all people are equal, unless if you happen to have views that contradict or is the outright opposite, are somehow inferior to theirs. Seven people were stabbed and beaten to death by a provoked mob of leftist. Sure, I know that there are white supremacist groups who want to become the next Montana Militia or Sam Hyde's, but these Anti-Fascist groups are going to become more of a threat to others that simply just have differing opinions.

Fascists and anti-fascist hooligan groups both just like fighting in the streets and politics is the excuse. This is why these antifa groups follow around Nazis like hippies follow the Dead, if hippies hated the Dead and wanted to beat up Jerry Garcia.

 

[The Nothingness]

Take a look at what happened to Trump supporters in San Jose and the amount of spin that was done to make the Trump supporters the agitators especially the woman who was cornered and had stuff thrown at her including an egg.

 

[Wallace]

That's completely normal, they've been in power for a while. They went from "rebels" to being the establishment. It's just the pendulum swinging. If/When this current wave of disatisfaction reaches a point where it becomes the new status quo, it will be just as entrenched and unwilling to give up power.

Eliminationist rhetoric is also on the rise on the left. The other side opposes you not because they have a different opinion than yours, but because they are evil. You cannot negotiate with or compromise with evil, only eliminate it. Ten years ago, Fox News was doing it to liberals, and they made a shit-ton of money by peddling outrage. It's not surprising that other media outlets followed suit.

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

I've heard people justify the incident simply because the victims were Nazis, and Nazis deserve everything coming to them. In truth, it's just idiotic. Trying to suppress their speech with violence only gives them more ammo for their persecution complex. Let them express their views loud and clear, and that will discredit them much faster than anyone on the opposition possibly could.

 

[millais]

Antifas and anarchists are always the first people to start throwing petrol bombs and bricks at demo marches. They were the people leading the anti-austerity riots in Spain, Greece, and the other Southern Eurozone countries when the whole Euro Crisis started a few years ago.

 

[AnOminous]

Antifas and anarchists are always the first people to start throwing petrol bombs and bricks at demo marches. They were the people leading the anti-austerity riots in Spain, Greece, and the other Southern Eurozone countries when the whole Euro Crisis started a few years ago.

Both of them are also just as likely to be sloppy drunks and to drag innocent bystanders into their bullshit.

Fuck both of them.

 

[Begemot]

I'm biased because I'm right-wing, but yes, there is more black and white polarisation, certainly in America where voting isn't compulsory and the centre is drowned out the extremes both parties have to entice (Though the democrats under Hillary look an awful lot like Rockefeller Republicans with some slivers of identity politics added on.)

http://www.pewresearch.org/topics/political-polarization/

Even if Mencius Moldbug turned out to be a sperg somewhat, the neoreaction concept of a cathedral, an internecine mass of interrelated interests as opposed to a conspiracy still bears some fruit, I feel. Look at the tribalism inherent in Brexit. It's an emotive issue, not a factual discussion.

 

[Male Idiot]

Yes, they are.

 

[The 25th Cyberman]

 

[AnOminous]

Even if Mencius Moldbug turned out to be a sperg somewhat, the neoreaction concept of a cathedral, an internecine mass of interrelated interests as opposed to a conspiracy still bears some fruit, I feel.

It's a lot more accurate of a worldview than conspiracy theory, which presupposes absurdly complex and premeditated action by innumerable parties, none of whom ever confess to it.

 

[Lensherr]

One look at MovieBob's Twitter will tell you everything you need to know.

 

[NumberingYourState]

There's never been an innocent hair on the leftist or rightist (autistic spelling), and it's foolhardy to expect selflessness from either side. The left in particular is increasingly aggressive but I think these just go in cycles, like really bad climate.

If the left wanted to be genuine they'd practice what they'd preach.

 

[muina]

Not really and I think maybe some people have their own agendas to make it seem like that.
anti-fias are usually dumb and dumb understand facism though