Are non-white people treated worse in the United States than white people? -

[JambledUpWords]

I’m wondering how true this is, and to what extent. I was speaking with someone recently and they said that non-white people automatically face discrimination and prejudice. I want to hear people’s thoughts on this.

Personally, I think it’s hard to tell sometimes because not all discrimination is based on race/ethnicity. Also, I think that believing that bad interactions between individuals of different races/ethnicities could very well just be personal issues where race/ethnicity isn’t the main problem.

 

[Pissmaster]

From what I've personally seen in my area, it's all blown extremely out of proportion and there's quite a lot of racial harmony in real life. Black people in the south tend to be conservative and get along fine with everyone else. I have never, ever once seen racial discrimination in person.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

Being from California I can cops, regardless if they are white or colored, overreacting to a crime because the suspects were either running away from them or wrestling with the cops to avoid being arrested; possibly for drug and alcohol use. Which is why you commonly hear of DUI's, drug busts, etc.

 

[Dutch Courage]

If you ask me, which nobody did, the whole problem today is not racism. It is overpopulation.

In my lifetime, the U.S. population has increased 65%. The population of my city has risen 95% in that time. World population since my birth has increased 139%. And frankly, as a kid, I thought there were too many fucking people around.

Now there's a lot more, and we get up into each other's grills and bidness and piss each other off. It's gonna get worse too.

 

[Governor Jeb Bush]

I am from England and like I've never actually seen anyone being racist to anyone. I've seen some people giving others dirty looks and guys fighting but never anything racially motivated.

I am aquatinted with my local taxi drivers, shop workers, etc, all of them seem to be respectful and have never mentioned anyone being disrespectful to them for being minorities...
Also some British-Jamaican people i know have never mentioned racism either...?

I see news about racism and wonder where the fuck it's happening lmfao

 

[Pissmaster]

I see news about racism and wonder where the fuck it's happening lmfao

Yeah, really. If anything, the worst-behaved people I ever see in public seem to be, well, Karens. White women between the ages of 20-50. Not that I haven't seen every single type of person acting up at some point, but it seems to be most common with them.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Some of the only racism I hear about has been in school. I remember in high school that some of the black kids would get mad at other blacks if they were “acting white”.

Outside of school, most of the racism I see is coming from white liberals that believe non-whites are automatically treated bad because of their skin color and that the best way to help them is by lowering the standards. Most of the people that say this live in very homogeneous suburbs and rarely interact with anyone outside their bubble.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

It doesn't matter. Those reeing the loudest believe in the Calvinball philosophy where whatever they feel in the moment is truth. Therefore if they think it's racist (which they inevitably do) then it absolutely unquestionably is and they will cry about it from whatever soapbox they can climb atop of before they burn it down in solidarity with the oppressed peoples of the world. Who are these oppressed people you ask? People like them who never waste an opportunity to feel aggrieved because of their persecution complex.

It's just a big ball of self-loathing and tribal group-think mentality justified with the barest hint of a moral justification.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

By each other? Certainly, black ghettos have a crab bucket mentality that's anti-education and anti-intellectual. Imagine the movie Idiocracy only if all the actors were black instead of mostly white.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Never been treated badly for being non-white in my life, my first experience with racism was when I found out that colleges were offering me full ride scholarships for just barely scoring above the average white student on the PSAT/SAT.

That really sucks. I guess it’s the socially acceptable form of bigotry. If someone did that to me, it would eat at my self-esteem.

 

[Governor Jeb Bush]

I also think the internet news spread makes minute things feel as if they are 'everywhere' when in reality racism is probably quite rare. In England we have a very mixed Government and if people were racist - they wouldn't have voted for them lol

Same goes for sexism. If Great Britain was so sexist - why have people voted in female leaders? and why do we have a Queen from a Royal Linage of many other Queens...? (and Kings)

 

[Crazedking]

im from Quebec in Canada. Being a french speaking area most of our "blacks" are haitian or the few africans immigrant comes from places that were colonized by the french. The only few black ive known personally were haitian folks and were pretty dope and well treated as far as i was aware but i also dont happen to live in a big city like Montreal which is a meltpots of all kind of people and very different from rest of QC. QC is an odd place in term of "Racism". Usually its mostly a disdain against people who dont wanna learn French. Whatever color or sexual orientation you are, nobody gives a fuck as long as you speak french.

 

[Junkail]

If you ask me, which nobody did, the whole problem today is not racism. It is overpopulation.

In my lifetime, the U.S. population has increased 65%. The population of my city has risen 95% in that time. World population since my birth has increased 139%. And frankly, as a kid, I thought there were too many fucking people around.

Now there's a lot more, and we get up into each other's grills and bidness and piss each other off. It's gonna get worse too.

I think the Rat Utopia Experiment showcases what you just mentioned.

 

[Orion Balls]

I live near an older steel town that used to be Italian/Polish, but with the closing of the mill, has become predominantly younger black families. And yes, the old folks there are pretty racist. Against each other, and the incoming black folk.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

they said that non-white people automatically face discrimination and prejudice.

They do, in the forms of affirmative action, hiring quotas, lower requirements for testing, or in the case of asians, higher requirements. Any action against them can have additional legal penalties assigned arbitrarily as "hate crimes". For all intents and purposes they have more civil rights since there are more circumstances where they cannot be fired or punished without it counting as discrimination. If the cops kill one of them in a way they do not like, the media will glorify them sanctimoniously and riots in their honor will go completely unmolested by authorities. They are quite privileged in real and meaningful ways.

Are they discriminated against negatively? No more than white teenagers.

Are they prejudiced negatively? No, the actions of people toward them, especially the police, are the results of postjudice, the same as a person who has never been bitten by a rattlesnake will nonetheless avoid rattlesnakes. But sadly, the terms "postjudice" and "racism" seem to be synonymous for people who seek to gain off racial divisions in a nation.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Depends on what aspect of life you're talking about. Also depends what part of the country. A lot of those statistics that get thrown around to "prove" black oppression are skewed by some high population, overwhelmingly black inner city areas. In those areas there often is discrimination in employment against people with names like "DeRayQuan" or "Laqueshay" which you're not likely to see attached to a white or Asian person. This isn't arbitrary however. It's because employers have learned from bitter experience that those sort of people are more likely to have bad work ethic and there's also the whole can of worms of having to worry about discrimination lawsuits for firing them, so it's often easier to just not hire them to begin with. Sure it's unfair to prejudge people like that, but it's also very rational based on how the system is currently set up.

Policing is similar. Black people do get pulled over and searched more, because in these areas there's more policing due to a much higher violent crime rate, and because most of the perpetrators (along with the victims and everyone else) in these areas are black, naturally a black person is more likely to resemble a suspect the police are looking for. Even left wingers (at least the ones who actually attempt to debate and defend their positions, like Vaush and Destiny) agree that this is the reason for the police discrepancy. So again, it's not based on racial hatred, but a rational reaction to behavior from the other side.

The problems in these areas aren't really caused by race. They're caused by culture. This is why Jamaican immigrants have a much higher success rate in America than native born African Americans. If it was really all discrimination based on skin color (or inherent racial inferiority) this statistical discrepancy wouldn't exist. This culture that's so toxic and causes these problems may have originated from systemic racism of previous generations, but the systemic racism itself has been gone for over half a century.

And from trying to "fix" systemic racism that's no longer there, we get discrimination in the other direction. Affirmative action and the general idea that racial discrimination is okay as long as it's in favor of black people (despite the very law that ended segregation making that theoretically illegal). This isn't everywhere, but the woker an industry is, the more likely you are to see favorable treatment of black people specifically for being black (not as favorable as trannies, but it still can open doors). As far as the media goes, black people as a group are treated far better than white people. Look at how nearly every major corporation and media outlet bent the knee to BLM and were throwing large donations and free air time worth billions of dollars left and right over one guy's bad run in with a cop. You're not going to see that sort of systemic reaction to a white guy getting killed by a cop, at least until there's a significant cultural shift.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

This is why Jamaican immigrants have a much higher success rate in America than native born African Americans. If it was really all discrimination based on skin color (or inherent racial inferiority) this statistical discrepancy wouldn't exist.

What culture specifically?

 

[Doctor Placebo]

What culture specifically?

Inner city African American culture. I thought that would be obvious from the context of the rest of my post.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Inner city African American culture. I thought that would be obvious from the context of the rest of my post.

So the difference between the Jamaican immigrants and the American blacks is their culture, because a small portion of the american blacks are descendants of slaves and "systemic racism"?

But so are the Jamaicans. You're also taking a small portion of the population, the immigrants. We see marked differences in immigrant populations compared to the ones that stayed in every race and country. The ones that have the capacity to leave are smarter. They're not the majority, they're the statistical outliers in IQ that every race has.

 

[soy_king]

If you ask me, which nobody did, the whole problem today is not racism. It is overpopulation.

In my lifetime, the U.S. population has increased 65%. The population of my city has risen 95% in that time.

How old are you, like 70? If so, holy shit, how did you find this weird, autistic corner of the internet old-timer?