Are TERFs their own worst enemy? - The narcissism of feminism

[Banditotron]

I mean, not really for the same reasons that OP is saying, but yeah TERFs are kind of their own worst enemies. I love the girls like you wouldn't believe because they're the only women with balls to say what's true about trannies. But due to TERFs being typically older women (not old, older, which is less old than old), they tend to come off as kind of autistic on the internet.
It's also possible that TERFs aren't used to standing up for themselves, being women and all, and so they sometimes have a tendency to mince words when they shouldn't and should just go for the jugular. Maybe it's socialization, but I feel like women online don't know to strike when the hammer is hot.
I think that most contemporary TERFs are not necessarily the man hating type, but the ones who are are also shooting themselves in the foot. We've got to work together, ladies and gentlemen.
On the overall, TERFs have my support but there's only so much support I can give and there's only so much TERFs can do and both of those are being bottlenecked by TERFs themselves, not just men in dresses.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Don't know where you think that. Most TERFs are socially center-right and fiscally leftist from what I've seen. Liberal feminism dictates most of the social left which they completely disavow.

Also you're retarded OP. Go read some about radical feminism, it's not like troons at all.

Care to give some examples?

Isn't radical feminism about RADICALLY changing society? To smash the pay tree r key? The same CM thinking behind troon activists?

Learn how to think critically.

Don't know where you think that. Most TERFs are socially center-right and fiscally leftist from what I've seen. Liberal feminism dictates most of the social left which they completely disavow.

Also you're retarded OP. Go read some about radical feminism, it's not like troons at all.

Care to give some examples?

Isn't radical feminism about RADICALLY changing society? To smash the pay tree r key? The same CM thinking behind troon activists?

Learn how to think critically.

I mean, not really for the same reasons that OP is saying, but yeah TERFs are kind of their own worst enemies. I love the girls like you wouldn't believe because they're the only women with balls to say what's true about trannies. But due to TERFs being typically older women (not old, older, which is less old than old), they tend to come off as kind of autistic on the internet.
It's also possible that TERFs aren't used to standing up for themselves, being women and all, and so they sometimes have a tendency to mince words when they shouldn't and should just go for the jugular. Maybe it's socialization, but I feel like women online don't know to strike when the hammer is hot.
I think that most contemporary TERFs are not necessarily the man hating type, but the ones who are are also shooting themselves in the foot. We've got to work together, ladies and gentlemen.
On the overall, TERFs have my support but there's only so much support I can give and there's only so much TERFs can do and both of those are being bottlenecked by TERFs themselves, not just men in dresses.

They have no problem screaming abuse at people trying to help them if they don't buy into the made up victimhood.

Saying to a terf that the gender pay gay doesn't exist is the same as saying to a tra No, you're just larping.

Same as saying to blm 'well if your ancestors have fought harder then the neighbouring tribe wouldn't have sold them into slavery. Now go ask boko Ha ram for your reparations.

 

[Vulva Gape]

Isn't radical feminism about RADICALLY changing society? To smash the pay tree r key?

Yes. Radical means "from the root", or women's oppression stems from their biology.

The same CM thinking behind troon activists?

Troon activists are misogynists, they are the patriarchy. They hate women so much they want to take all of their sex-based rights and spaces. Doesn't get more misogynistic than that.

 

[keke]

I mean, not really for the same reasons that OP is saying, but yeah TERFs are kind of their own worst enemies. I love the girls like you wouldn't believe because they're the only women with balls to say what's true about trannies. But due to TERFs being typically older women (not old, older, which is less old than old), they tend to come off as kind of autistic on the internet.
It's also possible that TERFs aren't used to standing up for themselves, being women and all, and so they sometimes have a tendency to mince words when they shouldn't and should just go for the jugular. Maybe it's socialization, but I feel like women online don't know to strike when the hammer is hot.
I think that most contemporary TERFs are not necessarily the man hating type, but the ones who are are also shooting themselves in the foot. We've got to work together, ladies and gentlemen.
On the overall, TERFs have my support but there's only so much support I can give and there's only so much TERFs can do and both of those are being bottlenecked by TERFs themselves, not just men in dresses.

Credit where it’s due, in the UK they are putting up a good fight. It’s admirable considering the vitriol they get. They’re putting their names to this shit - - and if you’ve been in twt you know that’s legitimately brave.

Also, OP, generalising them as all man hating isn’t accurate. Most of them genuinely try their best to be open to real transsexuals as well. I find it interesting when MTF transsexuals agree with them also, they’d be considered TERFS if they were not T themselves. By interesting I guess I just mean how some of them utterly destroy all the radical hysterical opinions. They can admit to many TERF taking points (drag is offensive, women get to define being women, shared bathrooms are an issue) and continue to live normal lives, they can talk about that stuff and agree with them and (to use their terms) are still “valid”.

They are extremely rare but extremely based. Not as based as the women putting their neck on the line for this shit though, trying to reason with people including politicians screaming about how you want trannies dead isn’t exactly fun. Makes it harder for the public to support you also.

 

[All Cops Are Based]

Don't know where you think that. Most TERFs are socially center-right

You can end up with anti-sex attitudes for both "right wing" reasons and "left wing" reasons, you know. The blue haired journalists (not that they're second wavers, just an analogy) getting offended by anime boobs in video games aren't on the right or center-right just because they're participating in moral outrage like the right used to.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Yes. Radical means "from the root", or women's oppression stems from their biology.


Troon activists are misogynists, they are the patriarchy. They hate women so much they want to take all of their sex-based rights and spaces. Doesn't get more misogynistic than that.

You have not read the post.

the two share the same use of CM in their idsalogy . I'm not saying they believe the same things, I'm saying that terfs like posey Parker complains about the gender pay gap and all the time, which is biology denying because it refuses to accept that biology means women do different work and have different work patterns, they blame pay tree r key, the same mentality of the tras. Coming from CM.

 

[Vulva Gape]

the gender pay gap and all the time, which is biology denying because it refuses to accept that biology means women do different work and have different work patterns, they blame pay tree r key, the same mentality of the tras. Coming from CM.

"Gender pay gap" is a libfem thing lmfao.

Again, it seems like you don't know what radical feminism is and are confusing them with libfems.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Credit where it’s due, in the UK they are putting up a good fight. It’s admirable considering the vitriol they get. They’re putting their names to this shit - - and if you’ve been in twt you know that’s legitimately brave.

Also, OP, generalising them as all man hating isn’t accurate. Most of them genuinely try their best to be open to real transsexuals as well. I find it interesting when MTF transsexuals agree with them also, they’d be considered TERFS if they were not T themselves. By interesting I guess I just mean how some of them utterly destroy all the radical hysterical opinions. They can admit to many TERF taking points (drag is offensive, women get to define being women, shared bathrooms are an issue) and continue to live normal lives, they can talk about that stuff and agree with them and (to use their terms) are still “valid”.

They are extremely rare but extremely based. Not as based as the women putting their neck on the line for this shit though, trying to reason with people including politicians screaming about how you want trannies dead isn’t exactly fun. Makes it harder for the public to support you also.

no they are not, in Scotland they ha v e passed a law so the troonatics can get you arrested for stating biological fact.

Read about the Frankfurt school.

"Gender pay gap" is a libfem thing lmfao.

Again, it seems like you don't know what radical feminism is and are confusing them with libfems.

It's not just a libfem thing, it's both. From the fems I've talked to and if you can stand the chitter chat check out Posey parker.


Also try reading more than the title of the thread.

 

[Lizu]

It's not just a libfem thing, it's both. From the fems I've talked to and if you can stand the chitter chat check out Posey parker.

Posie has repeatedly been vocal about separating herself from feminism with many of her regressive beliefs being criticized by radfems; they don't accept her and she doesn't associate with them, but they still get lumped into together because of the mutual dislike for troons.

 

[keke]

no they are not, in Scotland they ha v e passed a law so the troonatics can get you arrested for stating biological fact.

Read about the Frankfurt school.

I know. This is recent. I said they’re putting up a good fight as in they’re trying, not that they were winning. Scotland is a hell hole though and that sort of thing goes beyond anything terfs could fight, the Scot gov is stuffed full of the woke cult members. This is where they stood up and apologised for being white and the Muslim members spat in disgust at that fact an ethnically white country has white people in it. Prior to this they were really trying to stop similar proposed bills getting passed.

TLDR An authoritarian government continuing to be authoritarian doesn’t mean there aren’t actually putting a lot of effort into stopping it.

In the UK they stopped a different bill getting through in like 2019, can’t remember what one as I don’t keep up with this stuff anymore as much as I used to because it’s too black pilling, but the lone female conservative politician had to stand and take questions from men red in the face spitting that she hates trannies and what about trans this and trans that - - of course they didn’t say jack shit about what women thought about the bill that impacted them the most. For anyone who wants to find it I believe the bill she let pass compromised and made it cheaper for gender clinics to operate.

It's not just a libfem thing, it's both. From the fems I've talked to and if you can stand the chitter chat check out Posey parker.

You’re not being accurate. Yes some radfems talk about it but that’s far from their focus, libfems think that’s the pressing issue of our time whereas there are a lot of high profile terfs that never even mention it.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

I know. This is recent. I said they’re putting up a good fight as in they’re trying, not that they were winning. Scotland is a hell hole though and that sort of thing goes beyond anything terfs could fight, the Scot gov is stuffed full of the woke cult members. This is where they stood up and apologised for being white and the Muslim members spat in disgust at that fact an ethnically white country has white people in it. Prior to this they were really trying to stop similar proposed bills getting passed.

TLDR An authoritarian government continuing to be authoritarian doesn’t mean there aren’t actually putting a lot of effort into stopping it.

In the UK they stopped a different bill getting through in like 2019, can’t remember what one as I don’t keep up with this stuff anymore as much as I used to because it’s too black pilling, but the lone female conservative politician had to stand and take questions from men red in the face spitting that she hates trannies and what about trans this and trans that - - of course they didn’t say jack shit about what women thought about the bill that impacted them the most. For anyone who wants to find it I believe the bill she let pass compromised and made it cheaper for gender clinics to operate.



You’re not being accurate. Yes some radfems talk about it but that’s far from their focus, libfems think that’s the pressing issue of our time whereas there are a lot of high profile terfs that never even mention it.

Well, from empirical evidence I disagree, check out the people I mentioned and their comment section. Also you haven't engaged with the CM part. that is the .main point.

Posie has repeatedly been vocal about separating herself from feminism with many of her regressive beliefs being criticized by radfems; they don't accept her and she doesn't associate with them, but they still get lumped into together because of the mutual dislike for troons.

Posey has just called it FemAlism. We've discussed this. Also you aren't engaging the main point about CM, that is the similarity, they are still biology deniers. And Posey calls herself a terf. On her last podcast she was talking about it.

Makes me think you're bullshitting.

 

[Lizu]

Posey has just called it FemAlism. We've discussed this. Also you aren't engaging the main point about CM, that is the similarity, they are still biology deniers. And Posey calls herself a terf. On her last podcast she was talking about it.

Makes me think you're bullshitting.

Yeah, as a poor strategy to invent her own feminism because she has a terrible grasp on radical feminism. Tbh she's a great troll though.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Yeah, as a poor strategy to invent her own feminism because she has a poor grasp on radical feminsm. Tbh she's a great troll though.

But she calls herself a terf. You might want to NTSM it, but that's not the point.

Anyone going to engage in the CM aspect or just read the title?

This is why a pothole like kinderwhiffer is in power.

Tl:dr? Then do n comment.

 

[Legoshi]

Some radical feminists like Cathy Brennan and Leah Tverly are truly awful people who almost hypocritically use the same tactics and methods as TRA's. However, many radical feminists and other feminists are very good. My definite favourites are include Vanessa Vokey and Christina Hoff Sommers. However, the ones who try to start childish drama and spats along with the petty manhating need to be called out. Yes, it's a movement for women and women only, but being rude and nasty won't get you any support or sympathy. Some of the ones who lean more left push SJW identity politics such as race that just further divides the movement. Feminists aren't a monolith and they have many different views. So to blame all of them is very short-sighted. Which brings us to the problem of the lack of unity they have. There's a lack of respect for differing views and immature grudges that needs to be addressed.

To see these two Stacies get on so well and find respect for each others' different views is wonderful. This is a standard that should be set.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Some radical feminists like Cathy Brennan and Leah Tverly are truly awful people who almost hypocritically use the same tactics and methods as TRA's. However, many radical feminists and other feminists are very good. My definite favourites are include Vanessa Vokey and Christina Hoff Sommers. However, the ones who try to start childish drama and spats along with the petty manhating need to be called out. Yes, it's a movement for women and women only, but being rude and nasty won't get you any support or sympathy. Some of the ones who lean more left push SJW identity politics such as race that just further divides the movement. Feminists aren't a monolith and they have many different views. So to blame all of them is very short-sighted. Which brings us to the problem of the lack of unity they have. There's a lack of respect for differing views and immature grudges that needs to be addressed.

To see these two Stacies get on so well and find respect for each others' different views is wonderful. This is a standard that should be set.

Vokey is a manhater, was sub'd to her channel before it got nix'd. She once smugly said that the y chromosome was a withered x chromosome. Yes she has a boyfriend, but she still sells the all men are bastards line.

Posey also bottled calling out Jess Phillips. She can't even call that pothole out.

but you almost engaged with the CM, so there's that.

 

[Legoshi]

Vokey is a manhater, was sub'd to her channel before it got nix'd. She once smugly said that the y chromosome was a withered x chromosome. Yes she has a boyfriend, but she still sells the all men are bastards line.

but you almost engaged with the CM, so there's that.

The manhating part and genuine overblown demonisation of men is really annoying. It's even more frustrating when they play dumb or ignore it by saying "Why do some men think all feminists hate men?!" That's why! Not to mention, the painfully unlikable attitude and narrow mindedness that some of them possess.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

The manhating part and genuine overblown demonisation of men is really annoying. It's even more frustrating when they play dumb or ignore it by saying "Why do some men think all feminists hate men?!" That's why!

Exactly, you say to them not all men, they have a fit and accuse you of justifying rape or some such (hyperbole for comic effect).

This is just like the troonatics, they want words to only mean what they want them to. Classic CM, just like the troons.

And if these bints aren't actually going to call out the bs... They themselves are their own worst enemy, they are the people doing the most damage to their cause.

You'd think that it would be quite simple. But decades of these hints teaching in school has left generation of fuckwitted kids who think that if you wish really hard enough you'll get what you want. If you don't it's because of someone else 'oppressing' you.

CM 101.

 

[Legoshi]

I also wanted to mention that Vokey was probably joking about saying that from Valerie Solanas whom she claims was joking. But I really don't think someone who tried to straight up shoot someone else would exactly be "joking" about that.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

I also wanted to mention that Vokey was probably joking about saying that from Valerie Solanas whom she claims was joking. But I really don't think someone who tried to straight up shoot someone else would exactly be "joking" about that.

Oh, that SCUM shit never goes away. The same narcissism that the troons have. Quote something stupid, get called out, say 'just joking, didn't really mean it's

Another thing, they have a double standard when it comes to male troons, to female troons. All male troons are rapey pervs, but female ones? Rarely gets a mention.
I try turning these bints onto Blaire White and Rose of Dawn, who do a much better job of 'policing' their 'own'. But they don't care.

one self pro ffessed terf (Karen Davies you're kidding right channel) made a video saying that the troons better start calling out the nutters. But does she lead by example? Fuck no.

She is an ignore pothole tho. She made a video saying everyone must vote for Biden.

In a comment section of a different video, I made the point that was it really a surprise the kiddie sniffer passed the pro troon laws? She claimed she didn't know about it. Probably didn't know until I told her.

And that's the problem, she is fucking ignorant. Suggesting she isn't any use to anyone. Because people will just say to her, why the fuck should I listen to you? If you didn't know that kinder whiffer was molesting kids ON FUCKING CAMERA AT A FUCKING PRESS CONFERENCE, it means you don't pay attention to the news.

She's all about 'won't someone p!ease think of the children. After months of not mention kids being groomed.

That's another problem She (and her ilk) refuse to accept that mothers are doing this to their kids, not men. But hey CM says you don't have to take responsibilty, right? Black people shoot each other, well that's whitey's fault.

These Women (#notallwomen) haven't really cottoned on to the fact that they aren't that logical. And you need that to solve problem. That if you bully cry then people will just walk away. They'll just reeeee I'm not being supported! (Just like who?)

She spouts the CM line of pay tree r key reeeeeee, but point out to her that this started when her lot wanted girls to join the boyscouts... She get the hump. She is going through menopause, tho... So technically she is mental.

Oh and the comment section, it's all high 5 sister, woo yeah, we're going to get through this. I made a couple of factual points, and a coup!e of confessed man haters, seriously straight up admitted it start calling me a misogynist and homophobe, I called them on it, demanded that they quote my M&H comments, another sub defended me and SHE got call a man.

And the dumbest thing is, Karen threatened to BAN me. She didn't acknowledge that some of her subs were exactly like troonatics, just said this is a women's space.

This is why Anne Coulter said that women shouldn't vote.

Tbf, I have been making pas ag remarks about LBJ and the next 200 years and Kinder whiffers voting record. Next will be Malcolm Xs opinion on negros voting democrat.

And she writes shi t civil rights type songs, they are hilariously bad, check it out just for that, seriously A Mighty Wind kind of thing but by a failed muso.

After a while you can understand why troons want to punch them. And you don't really care if they do. These self identifying terfs have the same narcissistic out look as troons. Ergo they are their own worst enemy.

Thanks for all the 'I respectfully fail to refute your logic because you are right, but i don't want admit it, so I'll just press a button' things.

I also wanted to mention that Vokey was probably joking about saying that from Valerie Solanas whom she claims was joking. But I really don't think someone who tried to straight up shoot someone else would exactly be "joking" about that.

Didn't try did, fucked Warhol up, he wasn't the same after.

 

[Legoshi]

Oh, that SCUM shit never goes away. The same narcissism that the troons have. Quote something stupid, get called out, say 'just joking, didn't really mean it's

Another thing, they have a double standard when it comes to male troons, to female troons. All male troons are rapey pervs, but female ones? Rarely gets a mention.
I try turning these bints onto Blaire White and Rose of Dawn, who do a much better job of 'policing' their 'own'. But they don't care.

one self pro ffessed terf (Karen Davies you're kidding right channel) made a video saying that the troons better start calling out the nutters. But does she lead by example? Fuck no.

She is an ignore pothole tho. She made a video saying everyone must vote for Biden.

In a comment section of a different video, I made the point that was it really a surprise the kiddie sniffer passed the pro troon laws? She claimed she didn't know about it. Probably didn't know until I told her.

And that's the problem, she is fucking ignorant. Suggesting she isn't any use to anyone. Because people will just say to her, why the fuck should I listen to you? If you didn't know that kinder whiffer was molesting kids ON FUCKING CAMERA AT A FUCKING PRESS CONFERENCE, it means you don't pay attention to the news.

She's all about 'won't someone p!ease think of the children. After months of not mention kids being groomed.

That's another problem She (and her ilk) refuse to accept that mothers are doing this to their kids, not men. But hey CM says you don't have to take responsibilty, right? Black people shoot each other, well that's whitey's fault.

These Women (#notallwomen) haven't really cottoned on to the fact that they aren't that logical. And you need that to solve problem. That if you bully cry then people will just walk away. They'll just reeeee I'm not being supported! (Just like who?)

She spouts the CM line of pay tree r key reeeeeee, but point out to her that this started when her lot wanted girls to join the boyscouts... She get the hump. She is going through menopause, tho... So technically she is mental.

Oh and the comment section, it's all high 5 sister, woo yeah, we're going to get through this. I made a couple of factual points, and a coup!e of confessed man haters, seriously straight up admitted it start calling me a misogynist and homophobe, I called them on it, demanded that they quote my M&H comments, another sub defended me and SHE got call a man.

And the dumbest thing is, Karen threatened to BAN me. She didn't acknowledge that some of her subs were exactly like troonatics, just said this is a women's space.

This is why Anne Coulter said that women shouldn't vote.

Tbf, I have been making pas ag remarks about LBJ and the next 200 years and Kinder whiffers voting record. Next will be Malcolm Xs opinion on negros voting democrat.

And she writes shi t civil rights type songs, they are hilariously bad, check it out just for that, seriously A Mighty Wind kind of thing but by a failed muso.

After a while you can understand why troons want to punch them. And you don't really care if they do. These self identifying terfs have the same narcissistic out look as troons. Ergo they are their own worst enemy.

I don't completely agree. Trans identifying males/MTF's have a higher rate of criminality than other groups of males and a quarter of those are sex-offending misdemeanors.

Even though certain diehard Radfems make threats about doing things, they're nowhere near as violent as they could get in the 70s and 80s and they never really follow up to them anyway. The trans movement today is surpassing them even further.

Here's what I mean.