Are we becoming meaner? -

[ChuckSlaughter]

I used to feel like Kiwi Farms was a kinder gentler sort of troll forum and it still is at it's core. We stick to the facts, we discourage harassing cows off the site, we offer advice and want many of our cows to succeed.

But we've become popular and it seems like we're attracting a more mean spirited userbase. It might even be my imagination and if it's not I can't say what we should do about it but the site has a pretty good track record addressing issues once they're brought out in the open.

So thoughts?

 

[JambledUpWords]

I don’t think we’re really “meaner” per se. I just think that this site and the nature of it attracts very blunt people. Being blunt isn’t necessarily mean, but it can be interpreted that way depending on the context.

Also, with the bluntness, many people like to crack jokes. Considering this place is dedicated to talking about cows, there is some spite to be had towards certain individuals that destroy their own lives or ruin other people’s lives. This means that there are many people (including myself) that make jokes about these people that are a lot meaner than what you’d find elsewhere.

That said, you mention you do want the cows to succeed and make their lives better. I and many others want that too. The thing is, is that we aren’t supposed to intervene with the cows or encourage harassment. To add to that, many of the cows on here have no intention of changing their behavior so it’s easier to make fun of said behavior rather than being serious all of the time. Of course, when people on here need to be serious, it seems like the majority of kiwis are good at this.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I haven't noticed anything different.

The fact some users here try to reach out a hand to others and can remain mostly civil speaks the opposite.

In addition, just the notion of the ween filter kinda proves no one here is on board with off-site shenanigans.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

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I think jokes are fine but it feels like we have more people who are hostile and antagonistic by default. In the past I'd avoid the nick bate thread or maybe users that I don't get along with. But more and more I find that some posters are just unpleasant to read and I decide it's better to close the tab and watch a little bob ross instead. It might just be me though.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

But more and more I find that some posters are just unpleasant to read and I decide it's better to close the tab and watch a little bob ross instead.

I, honest to fuck, hope you aren't exaggerating. That's pretty epic in 2018. I almost want this for random text.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

I, honest to fuck, hope you aren't exaggerating. That's pretty epic in 2018. I almost want this for random text.

 

[Colonel J]

I agree that there is less care for fact-based content and more a trend towards smearing.

 

[escapegoat]

Cast-off garbage from other, lamer places landing upon the farmish shores?

 

[Next Task]

I think jokes are fine but it feels like we have more people who are hostile and antagonistic by default.

Here and there you see moments of aggressive bile, but I'd say the true assholes who are nothing but spite and anger don't end up sticking around because they just get told they're mad on the internet. Hating on lolcows is fine, from the aggravating to the truly disgusting, and if you don't want to see people shitting on the cow there are definitely posts to avoid. But in the threads I read I can't say there's been an uptick in just unwarranted hatred and spergery. I don't read the grosser topics, though, so maybe they've gotten worse.

 

[Fibonacci]

This community goes through periodic waves of edgelords enlisting in the Kiwi Corps and most are bored with the site after about 80 posts or so (and some, rarely, end up being transferred to the LOLcow Platoon). It's a natural ebb and flow that has been a part of this site well before even its Yuku incarnation. Admittedly, the community has become more blunt overall since Null assumed command, but it's important to remember that this community started out as a sort-of "corral" to contain the autism that was unfolding on the CWCki talk pages. The Old Guard, like Champthom, were notoriously blunt and direct, but given the original mission statement "No shit is too minor", they allowed more leniency. With the expansion of the LOLcow sub-board and the ongoing exploration of the Beta Quadrant, our current mission is to seek out new Autism and new Furaffinities. To boldly go where no one else wants to. These are the voyages of the warship Kiwi Farms where every post earns an islamic rating. Man the hatches, hoist the sails and enjoy an ice cold Diet Coke, my fellow K-Farmer.

 

[ConcernedAnon]

I haven't noticed anything different.

The fact some users here try to reach out a hand to others and can remain mostly civil speaks the opposite.

In addition, just the notion of the I HAVE AUTISM PLEASE LAUGH AT ME filter kinda proves no one here is on board with off-site shenanigans.

Glad to hear nothing's changed over the course of a month lol


To OP, I think it's that the site is seeing increased visibility and so we are experiencing a perpetual summer. Think of all the threads that were made this year that attracted large amounts of people from other communities; from the kero shit, to the metokur/ibs/skeptics, etc. there has been an influx of people who are not necessarily interested in the core purposes of kf, but come instead for information that isn't posted elsewhere, for drama, or perhaps for their own vendettas. The people who come here for these niche reasons don't attempt to match forum tone, so perhaps that is what you are seeing
On the other hand, have you been noticing the general tone sans newfags growing more hostile? I haven't noticed such a thing, but I haven't been here as long, so perhaps I would not notice the difference @ChuckSlaughter

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

I've been avoiding internet toilets so maybe I'm not as used to cranky people as I was.

 

[CatParty]

frig off

 

[Fibonacci]

frig off

Spoiler

No people. Let's be smart and frig it ON.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

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Glad to hear nothing's changed over the course of a month lol


To OP, I think it's that the site is seeing increased visibility and so we are experiencing a perpetual summer. Think of all the threads that were made this year that attracted large amounts of people from other communities; from the kero shit, to the metokur/ibs/skeptics, etc. there has been an influx of people who are not necessarily interested in the core purposes of kf, but come instead for information that isn't posted elsewhere, for drama, or perhaps for their own vendettas. The people who come here for these niche reasons don't attempt to match forum tone, so perhaps that is what you are seeing
On the other hand, have you been noticing the general tone sans newfags growing more hostile? I haven't noticed such a thing, but I haven't been here as long, so perhaps I would not notice the difference @ChuckSlaughter

I've lurked for awhile though. I'm not a stranger to KF at all. Actually being a member doesn't really matter in knowing the community.

 

[Fibonacci]

I've lurked for awhile though. I'm not a stranger to KF at all. Actually being a member doesn't really matter in knowing the community.

Well, actually.....

Spoiler

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

Honestly, yeah. I've mostly noticed it in the people who've come here to grind their political axe, but there's also been an increase in threads for people who are just straight up hateable.

 

[usernames can change now!]

I feel like society in general, from porn to troll forums to politics, is getting more mean-spirited.

 

[GODREKCUF]

We are baddy bad

btw. you called yourself a 'farm' and now complaining about the yields...

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I feel like society in general, from porn to troll forums to politics, is getting more mean-spirited.

How ironic, with the push of more PC bullshit.