Feedback Assign a mod to the "Games" subforum or Off-Topic besides A&H in general -

[Desire Lines]

Even before the Christchurch regs, the amount of unironic KiA/GamerGate refugees in the "Games" subforum was getting suffocating, but now it has hit peak levels of shit. Instead of actual game discussion, most of the content is "muh SJWs" and political sperging. Which is why I propose to either split the KiA stuff into another sub-forum (hell, could even bring the GamerGate board back!) or assign a supervisor mod to it. This is also a problem with some of the other off-topic boards, but the Games one suffers the most from it IMO.

 

[Arcturus]

I agree. It's getting annoying. Or maybe even a game news megathread? That might quell some of it since a lot of it seems to be "LOOK WHAT THE FEMINISTS HAVE DONE NOW".

 

[Eryngium]

Found the butthurt SJW, seethe more.

WHEN THE GAMERS RISE UP PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL BE THE FIRST AGAINST THE WALL!

 

[Null]

Theoretically speaking, if you got modded, how would you propose fixing the issue?

 

[Desire Lines]

Theoretically speaking, if you got modded, how would you propose fixing the issue?

already wrote about it in the op, but to add to that i would personally make a general "game drama" thread or maybe even several of them. there is already a general thread on the controversies surrounding the epic games launcher and it mostly contains the epic sperging to one thread while also allowing the actual games to get discussed in dedicated threads
EDIT: perhaps it could even be contained to two threads, "political game drama" and "general game drama"

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Theoretically speaking, if you got modded, how would you propose fixing the issue?

I would propose beatings until morale improves and mass purges and gulags

 

[Oh Shit I'm Sorry]

I would ban people unless they paid me

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

@Desire Lines for Mod 2019

 

[Arcturus]

already wrote about it in the op, but to add to that i would personally make a general "game drama" thread or maybe even several of them. there is already a general thread on the controversies surrounding the epic games launcher and it mostly contains the epic sperging to one thread while also allowing the actual games to get discussed in dedicated threads
EDIT: perhaps it could even be contained to two threads, "political game drama" and "general game drama"

That would work well. They seem to run out of steam fast enough on each topic that it would work in one or two general threads.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Theoretically speaking, if you got modded, how would you propose fixing the issue?

I would start by banning every single poster from posting anything. Then I would make a single thread, am I the coolest dude you ever heard of in your life? If you rate it agree or like, you get unbanned. Otherwise you stay banned.

Problem solved. How much trouble can the couple people who think I'm cool really make?

 

[JoshPlz]

Theoretically speaking, if you got modded, how would you propose fixing the issue?

Ban everyone who disrespects wahmen

 

[Null]

I'm just confused what the proposal is. Ban political discussion related to games in the threads about the games?

 

[Desire Lines]

I'm just confused what the proposal is. Ban political discussion related to games in the threads about the games?

i don't really see this as a ban considering a lot of the time the crowd that talks about the political aspects of games is different from the crowd that talks about the games themselves. it causes a lot of unnecessary bickering in the board and destroys discussion and i think separating it into a different thread(s) so that both the people that come to the games subboard as KiA-lite and people that come to talk about new releases and gameplay aspects can both be happy

 

[Slap47]

already wrote about it in the op, but to add to that i would personally make a general "game drama" thread or maybe even several of them. there is already a general thread on the controversies surrounding the epic games launcher and it mostly contains the epic sperging to one thread while also allowing the actual games to get discussed in dedicated threads
EDIT: perhaps it could even be contained to two threads, "political game drama" and "general game drama"

Doesn't that already exist?

 

[Desire Lines]

Doesn't that already exist?

not really, there doesn't exist a single megathread for all the minor petty drama that comes and goes in the games industry

 

[Frank D'arbo]

I would ban people unless they paid me

Fuck off Zaiger

 

[gobbogobb]

A drama megathread would be good imo. Specialty threads for games, and maybe of something really huge hits a mod can spin it off from the main thread.

Maybe something like the Designated Shitting Street in the DSP sub.

 

[ConcernedAnon]

This reads like you don't like some of the posters, and would like to corral them out of sight. The issue is one of defining what qualifies as a political/drama post; as if there is a controversy involving or adjacent to gaming, I would think it would be fair to discuss it alongside other gaming topics.

What I'd really like to know is how you'd handle several cases @Desire Lines

1. A new game in a series is released, but most of the characters are hidden behind paywalls on top of a $70 game price; people are angry and discuss it in the series' thread
2. A game is released and retcons one of the characters into being a lesbian; people are angry and discuss how a social media campaign on Reeee/twitter led to this
3. A skin is released for a dark skinned character that lightens their skin; twitter is enraged and people laugh about it in the series' thread

All of these could be called drama if you wished, and all are political in some measure, but I get the sense that only 2. and 3. are being objected to. However I don't think a distinction between the three can be naturally constructed beyond their relation to idpol. I can see why you might find it disruptive, but I think it ultimately comes down to personal taste.


However, I agree with the suggestion of a drama megathread or board, though I don't think there's enough remaining interest in gamergate for the revival of it's board. I also wouldn't be in objection to having someone there to merge the minor and ephemeral "Did you see what that guy said on twitter???" threads into a drama megathread.

A drama megathread would be good imo. Specialty threads for games, and maybe of something really huge hits a mod can spin it off from the main thread.

Maybe something like the Designated Shitting Street in the DSP sub.

It would be better to merge ephemeral drama threads with the main drama thread once they've run their course, rather than have a mod be the sole decider of whether the discussion is worth a thread.

 

[Desire Lines]

This reads to me like you don't like some of the posters and would like to corral them out of sight. The issue is one of defining what qualifies as a political/drama post; as if there is a controversy involving or adjacent to gaming, I would think it would be fair to discuss it alongside other gaming topics.

What I'd really like to know is how you'd handle a couple cases @Desire Lines

1. A new game in a series is released, but most of the characters are hidden behind paywalls on top of a $70 game price; people are angry and discuss it in the series' thread
2. A game is released and retcons one of the characters into being a lesbian; people are angry and discuss how a social media campaign on Reeee/twitter led to this
3. A skin is released for a dark skinned character that lightens their skin; twitter is enraged and people laugh about it in the series' thread

All of these could be called drama if you wished, and all are political in some measure, but I get the sense that only 2. and 3. are being objected to. However I don't think a distinction between the three can be naturally constructed beyond their relation to idpol. I can see why you might find it disruptive, but I think it ultimately comes down to personal taste.


However, I agree with the suggestion of a drama megathread or board, though I don't think there's enough remaining interest in gamergate for the revival of it's board. I also wouldn't be in objection to having someone there to merge the minor and ephemeral "Did you see what that guy said on twitter???" threads into a drama megathread.


It would be better to merge ephemeral drama threads with the main drama thread once they've run their course, rather than have a mod be the sole decider of whether the discussion is worth a thread.

The problem is that the 2 and 3 cases are far more disruptive to threads than the 1 one. That being said, I will also attempt to deal with the 1 case because I think people that like the game should be free to discuss it without hundreds of posts discussing videogame ethics. Right now I am toying with the idea of making a general game drama thread that focuses on the 1 case and not the 2 or 3 one.

 

[ConcernedAnon]

The problem is that the 2 and 3 cases are far more disruptive to threads than the 1 one. That being said, I will also attempt to deal with the 1 case because I think people that like the game should be free to discuss it without hundreds of posts discussing videogame ethics. Right now I am toying with the idea of making a general game drama thread that focuses on the 1 case and not the 2 or 3 one.

I really think it is genuinely impossible to cleanly separate cases 1, 2, and 3 though, and the major issue as far as I've seen has not been the topics, but the posting etiquette with which they're discussed. Sadly I don't have any ideas as to how that can be directly dealt with beyond some kind of nebulous "don't be a threadshitter" rule.

At the end of the day, I just don't want this to be a descent into "You can't discuss those politics here". I know it's early days, but it's happened on so many sites I think I'm justified in worrying.