At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he done? -

[GuyMontag21]

apologies if this has already been covered, but I think once Barb dies Chris might actually have a chance of turning around. He'll likely be in his mid-30s by then.

However, this isn't hitting your stride late...this is starting from scratch. re-learning habits in your mid-30s is very hard, if not impossible.

Let's say, post Barb, that he leaves 14 Branchland Court, lives in a group home, and makes an effort to actually use what he learns from his therapist. Will he ever be able to hold down a job? Possibly a normal job? And if he manages that (without his tugboat), will it consume all his attention and make finding a "sweetheart" impossible?

This really is a pointless post, but I love success stories. Some part of me hopes that Chris leaves all of this behind.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

apologies if this has already been covered, but I think once Barb dies Chris might actually have a chance of turning around. He'll likely be in his mid-30s by then.

However, this isn't hitting your stride late...this is starting from scratch. re-learning habits in your mid-30s is very hard, if not impossible.

Let's say, post Barb, that he leaves 14 Branchland Court, lives in a group home, and makes an effort to actually use what he learns from his therapist. Will he ever be able to hold down a job? Possibly a normal job? And if he manages that (without his tugboat), will it consume all his attention and make finding a "sweetheart" impossible?

This really is a pointless post, but I love success stories. Some part of me hopes that Chris leaves all of this behind.

I'll entertain your question, if you can answer this one first: what would compel CHRISTIAN WESTON CHANDLER, the adult autistic child, who has made himself internet famous by refusing to put forth any effort or attempt self-improvement, to do any of the above? Bearing in mind that everything above requires Chris's initiative, what would make it happen?

The reason I'm so adamant about this is that if any of the above were possible, it would be precisely because Chris WASN'T the lolcow we know him to be.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Brother, Chris would need to start to train, say his prayers and eat his vitamins. Those require effort, so it won't happen.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

This really is a pointless post, but I love success stories. Some part of me hopes that Chris leaves all of this behind.

I think it's Judge Holden whose signature has a great quote in it. It basically says "If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention"

 

[GuyMontag21]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

The reason I'm so adamant about this is that if any of the above were possible, it would be precisely because Chris WASN'T the lolcow we know him to be.

How much of that is just from being in the echo chamber of Barb, Rocky, and gal-pals, though? Can the state force someone like him to see a psychiatrist that would be far more effective than rocky?

 

[snowkitten91]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Chris would never accept to live alongside "slow-in-da-minds" and "windows-to-hell" by his own free will.

Also, effort causes him and , so that's out of the question.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Can the state force someone like him to see a psychiatrist that would be far more effective than rocky?

The state will never force him into anything. Their social services departments have a budget and quotas to worry about, and nothing about how Chris lives or behaves puts him on their radar.

 

[GuyMontag21]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

I think it's Judge Holden whose signature has a great quote in it. It basically says "If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention"

Happy ending, doubtful. Chris isn't going to become Don Draper. He might get to the point where he's just seen as the harmless kind-of-slow guy who has a job.

There was this oddball (possibly autistic, possibly semi-retarded) who lived below me for a while that hung out at local coffee shops and was generally harmless and thought of semi-well by my neighborhood. He worked at a local factory and (to my knowledge) had a case manager. He talked to all of my neighbors, often didn't know when to end the conversation. Did he ever get laid? I doubt it. Did people invite him to parties? No.

Had he accepted his position as an oddball loner, though? Yes. He seemed to be generally happy with his life, or he'd at least grown to realize that it was as good as it was going to get.

 

[Sakamoto]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

He could turn his life around, but we all know he won't. I don't hate Chris, I'd love to see him get it together and improve his life. But he seems to be heading in the other direction and has no desire to change.

 

[Lady Houligan]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Chris doesn't have an end goal that he can see, therefore he doesn't care. So until he decides that he can be successful at something, which I don't see happening, he's done.

 

[Bridechu]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Absolute best case scenario, which would only happen if Chris got hit by lightening and became the opposite of his current personality? He gets a minimum wage job stacking shelves or flipping burgers and is a good employee (clean, polite to customers and authority), bathes properly and gets a haircut, buys some proper clothes from Goodwill instead of skirts and clown shirts, loses weight through diet and exercise, drastically decreases vidya game time, gets out to social events and takes legitimate advice for behaving around women and makes both male and female friends, and cleans out the shit stain of a house into something presentable. Right off the bat he'd feel physically better, probably stop crapping himself with some fibre in his diet, and people would treat him normally because he's no longer a drooling pervert who smells like old watermelon. He'd pick up some of his friends' hobbies, maybe get invited to places where he makes more friends, gets personal satisfaction from working, and maybe even meets a woman (granted, probably one with mild autism like him) and he treats her respectfully as a person instead of expecting sex. He may eventually get some puss he doesn't need to pay for. Sonichu is there, but he never mentions it. He knows it will never make him money, but it's a personal comfort, though it's one he needs less and less as the real world unfolds.

Chris could do it. No one Googles everyone, and even if they did, all he'd have to say was "I was raised poorly considering my disability, that was a bad time in my life that I've obviously now overcome, and I don't want to talk about it now."

But he won't, because he's Chris.

 

[Griffintown]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

I believe that anybody can turn their existence around if they really want it. Here's the problem; Chris don't want any of that. He want that life turn around on his foolish whims. Since I am following Chris, I see him sink deeper and deeper in a self-made quicksand of mediocrity and I see nothing that could shake him out of this mindset. Anyone who is affected by the death of a close relative is tented to revisit his own existence and achievement. Did Chris changed for the better then? If not, I see no event that can shake him out of his funk.

Yeah, he's done.

 

[Some JERK]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

The reason I'm so adamant about this is that if any of the above were possible, it would be precisely because Chris WASN'T the lolcow we know him to be.

How much of that is just from being in the echo chamber of Barb, Rocky, and gal-pals, though? Can the state force someone like him to see a psychiatrist that would be far more effective than rocky?

Slippery slope. If they started forcing every self-absorbed asshole into therapy, there'd be riots in the streets. (and i'd probably be right in the middle of it, standing on the hood of a burning car and shouting through a megaphone)

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Like the others have said, the first step is that Chris would actually want to change and live a productive and meaningful life. He doesn't, he just wants to play vidya, stalk potential sweethearts and live like he's 12 eternally. If he doesn't get what he wants it's because of the DANG DIRTY TROLLS messing with him or people being so selfish as to only think of their own and their loved ones' lives instead of catering to the whims of the manchild.

The government can't force him to get psychological help until he commits a crime or poses an immediate threat to himself or others. Right now the government is doing all they can to help him with the tugboat and all. I'm sure he could get Medicaid and get the psychological therapy he needs. Really, if he could get a part-time job, like he's supposed to have with the tugboat, he'd be functioning as well as he could as far as the government is concerned.

tl;dr - Chris lives the way he does because he chooses to do so, although he could get help, and help has been offered to him on many occasions. He wants everything handed to him on a silver platter and has barely worked for anything in his life. The best that he could do is to stop being a pigheaded fool and actually get help.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

The reason I'm so adamant about this is that if any of the above were possible, it would be precisely because Chris WASN'T the lolcow we know him to be.

How much of that is just from being in the echo chamber of Barb, Rocky, and gal-pals, though? Can the state force someone like him to see a psychiatrist that would be far more effective than rocky?

Ahem.

NO.

What part of "he can't be forced" isn't clear?

 

[QI 541]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Depends. If Chris can let go of his desire to have a girlfriend, and quit obsessing over trolls, he could live a relatively happy life just the way he is right now.

No responsibilities, and free money. And I suppose he could try getting his socializing needs online.

How much of that is just from being in the echo chamber of Barb, Rocky, and gal-pals, though? Can the state force someone like him to see a psychiatrist that would be far more effective than rocky?

Unless Chris is a danger to himself or others, nope.
And if he was a danger to others, he'd probably be in prison.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Unless Chris is a danger to himself or others, nope.
And if he was a danger to others, he'd probably be in prison.

Even the "danger to himself" part is pretty unlikely. It's very hard to institutionalize someone against their will. If Chris does show signs of being a danger to himself, he will likely do it where no one else will see him (at home). If he goes off the deep end, Chris isn't likely to contact the police or the suicide hotline, the points of contact people in that scenario are most likely to make.

The only game-changer that makes any sense to me, at all, is if he gets in legal trouble, and somehow it becomes physical. Marvin says it's unlikely, because Chris is a pussy, and I have no reason to doubt that. But as the Snyder incident showed, it's not impossible, it just requires some external influence and/or a freak set of circumstances.

 

[Silvana]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

I'll be honest - some of things Chris has said and done make my teeth grind and the vein in my temple start to throb with rage. But on the whole I pity him. And if he could somehow succeed in turning his life around, I would happily fire off a 21 gun salute in his honour. I would LOVE to see him turn it all around. But I just can't see it happening.

I would never say never, if only because none of us can predict what's round the corner. But as has been pointed out time and again, in order to change, he first of all has to want to change. And that seems almost an impossibility. So yes. Done.

 

[Bridechu]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

I'll be honest - some of things Chris has said and done make my teeth grind and the vein in my temple start to throb with rage. But on the whole I pity him. And if he could somehow succeed in turning his life around, I would happily fire off a 21 gun salute in his honour. I would LOVE to see him turn it all around. But I just can't see it happening.

This is the worst part. Some stupid part of me still feels sorry for Chris, even after all the shit he's done. If he ever managed to hold down a job for two months, I'd personally mail him a $100 Playstation gift card and a pair of my panties. But I'm confident in saying that because it just won't happen.

 

[José Mourinho]

Re: At this point, how good can Chris do in life? Is he don

Considering his bad Internet reputation and his inability to change, the only possible way that he will succeed is for a girl of his dreams to just come over to him and immediately says she wants to marry him.

Which will never happen.