Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >TFW DESTROYING YOUR OWN SERIES ONCE JUST ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH AND YOU MAKE A PSA COMIC TELLING PEOPLE WHO WERE INVESTED IN IT TO FUCK OFF (#NO REFUNDS)

How will Eren be stopped?


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Secret Asshole

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Explain to me how the manga market being dominated by Viz manga with massive multimedia franchises *Naruto, Dragonball, Demon Slayer, One Piece * is any different than the American comics market being dominated by Marvel and DC comics with massive multimedia franchises.

And Shonen is just Japanese capeshit * and the dominant manga genre by far *. Also dude read Image or Dynamite if you want non-cape comics there's plenty.

As for art nah dude there's plenty of Western comics with good art and Japanese manga with shit art.

Ok, first all of those are completely different in their subject matter. Second, they're all stand alone. I don't need to go out and buy thirty variations of books on any of them. Even One Piece, which has been running forever, I can buy volume 1, volume 2, volume 3, volume 4...volume 500. I don't need to wonder where a storyline ends and begins, because they're all in the same book. Manga has clear arcs, which punctuate the beginning and end of a particular storyline. There is no outside reading required. I don't need Detective Comics #29, Batman #14-20 and Robin #24 to understand a fucking arc. Not to mention there are no remakes, reimaginings and reboots.

There is one universal continuity in each of those books. Demon Slayer is also complete. It will never be remade, rewritten, reimagined. It is a singular complete work, and will stay that way, probably forever. And again, all I need to do, even years later, is pick up its volumes in numerical order. It has one name, Demon Slayer. There's no fucked up numbering, there's not Detective Comics 1995 and Detective Comics 2010 and Detective Comics 2021 all of which are fucking different and you need a wiki to decipher what to read. So going back and reading old storylines are confusing. You know why kids don't get into comics? Because they don't fucking know where to start. A kid can pick up fucking Dragonball Volume 1 and be caught up.

The only thing Viz has in common with Marvel and DC is that its a media company. It does not constantly remake its content. It will do reprints, sure. But there's not fucking team ups of Akira and GitS. Manga is vast and encompasses so much, and it is mostly written for Japanese audiences. Sure, the ones you listed are popular in Japan, but there are massive amounts that sell crazy in Japan and don't make their way over here for one reason or another, which is why fan translations are a thing.

You're also misinterpreting genre. Shonen is not a genre, it literally means young boy. It is mostly a classification to aim at audience. Shonen encompasses a lot of genres and isn't necessarily action oriented. Just like Seinen means 'Young Man'. Its a demographic term, not a content term. Generally, Seinen is darker because its aimed at an older audience, but this is not always the case. And you mentioned capeshit, not extraordinarily small market shares like Image or Dynamite. And even then, the ideas in manga still outshine the American industry by a lot, which is very petrified to do anything remotely controversial. I mean fuck, even heavy metal pissed itself when fans mocked its new reboot. There's nothing there. Even Image and Dynamite are rehashing old brands and old properties.

I did start reading Invincible and I was really shocked at how fast the plot moved. Maybe because I'm used to manga nowadays, where things are more long form, but shit. The pacing of things is just better in manga. The stories too. I found it kind of funny how the Amazon show basically took more from anime and manga than from the comic itself, letting plots draw out and making things more detailed. Like when Omni-Man murks the Seven in the comic, it is very brief. He's also fine in the comic and you learn why just a paltry few issues later, meanwhile its built up as a larger mystery in the show. And again, most comics are like this, with the exception of very few, like Ennis, Millar and Gaiman, even if he turned into a pretentious faggot lately. And those are individual authors, not major companies. Even then, the art on their books rarely remains the same unless they stick with one artist, which creates an erratic tone. Meanwhile, manga art is streamlined and can create a singular tone for a work. Even with Ennis' 'The Boys', he had different artists, some of which were utter fucking trash which ruined the story.

I've read a ton of American comics and a ton of manga. I haven't read an American comic in years and years, because none of them are worth it. Its all the same, its nothing new. I know the differences between both and they're stark. There's a very good reason why manga is curb stomping American comics.
as superhero comics, isekai storylines became a massive part of the industry the last decade. But even so I don't think there's anything in manga that has such a stranglehold on the industry as superhero comics has in the west. You've got limitless potential, and all western comic writers make is stories where dudes in multicolored suits punch each other.
Even then, Isekai are vastly different from one another. You have Tanya the Evil, which transports a sociopath into the body of a little girl by God to teach him a lesson and pits him in a war torn hell. Then you have shit like 'I'm a Spider, So What?' where a girl is reincarnated as a spider. To 'Shield Hero' where the MC is shit on the entire time. It is still extremely different, and one isekai can be hugely different from another.

Are there derivative isekai? Sure. There are plenty. But there are also plenty that are different and I don't have to see the same 'coming of age' story ten trillion fucking times that goes exactly the same every goddamn fucking time.
 

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With fans like these, he can fuck with them as much as he wants, honestly.

Ironically enough, Kishimoto said something similar in regards to romance between characters, in that he’s just bad at it so he didn’t write it much. I think his main contribution to the romance of Naruto: The Last was Hinata making a scarf for Naruto, because that’s what his wife did for him back when they were dating.
 

TerminalTryHard

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Think Naruto should have started wrapping things up after the Pain arc?
I know it's kind of silly to get into those "the author wanted to the manga with this arc" arguments but I think with Naruto it was pretty clear that the Naruto/pain and Sasuke/Itachi fights were meant to be the lead up to the finale. Instead we got a whole of fucking around ending with a world war and aliens that no one really cared about.
 
AoT is as, delicately put:
Sissy Gay, Gay Sissy, Gay, Gay, Sissy, Gay
Glad I stopped after the 1st season and never read the manga

I think you could probably watch up to and including season 3. Although it becomes pretty clear after season 1 that the author wanted to change things up, so by season 3 you have a quasi-spy drama with 3D manoeuvring guns fights in saloons... I seem to remember that being a cool scene though.
Sadly this trend of shacking things up went on into season 4 where we now have a story about the evils of war with undeniable WW2 analogies and what for all practical purposes is a brand new cast who just so happen to have a names and likeness of the previous characters. So maybe skip out on season 4.
 
Ironically enough, Kishimoto said something similar in regards to romance between characters, in that he’s just bad at it so he didn’t write it much. I think his main contribution to the romance of Naruto: The Last was Hinata making a scarf for Naruto, because that’s what his wife did for him back when they were dating.
He also got a director known for doing romance for The Last.
I think you could probably watch up to and including season 3. Although it becomes pretty clear after season 1 that the author wanted to change things up, so by season 3 you have a quasi-spy drama with 3D manoeuvring guns fights in saloons... I seem to remember that being a cool scene though.
Sadly this trend of shacking things up went on into season 4 where we now have a story about the evils of war with undeniable WW2 analogies and what for all practical purposes is a brand new cast who just so happen to have a names and likeness of the previous characters. So maybe skip out on season 4.
Well, the thing I always say is that AOT went off the rails when it came from the fallout of the basement reveal, like how it got to people idolizing Eren and Requiem. Honestly, Season 3 seemed like it could have worked if you built up the part of trying to stop the Survey Corps from reaching the basement and placing Historia on the throne to rule the people behind the walls. If you built that up to where it meant something, you could have something interesting.
 

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For the record, I don't have a problem with AoT Requiem, or with people making their own ending in general. I mean, it's absolute cope, and AoT Requiem is all, but guaranteed to fail due to infighting, or because someone in the production team turns out to be a sexpest, or whatever, but I'm not against the idea of people creating their own ending.

You know why?

Because it's never going to be canon.

This is.
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See this face?

This is canon.

This is always going to be canon.

Even if Isayama tries to retcon it down the line, it doesn't matter, because it's still canon because it happened.

It happened. It was written, storyboarded, inked, illustrated, edited, printed, and published. It happened.

It happened, and no amount of crying, coping, raging, or fanfiction is going to change that.

In the end, this is the Eren we got, and it's going to be the Eren we'll always have.

You know, unless Isayama decides to turn him into something else like a litterbox, or something.

Whichever.
 
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For the record, I don't have a problem with AoT Requiem, or with people making their own ending in general. I mean, it's absolute cope, and AoT Requiem is all, but guaranteed to fail due to infighting, or because someone in the production team turns out to be a sexpest, or whatever, but I'm not against the idea of people creating their own ending.

You know why?

Because it's never going to be canon.

This is.
View attachment 2236076
See this face?

This is canon.

This is always going to be canon.

Even if Isayama tries to retcon it down the line, it doesn't matter, because it's still canon because it happened.

It happened. It was written, storyboarded, inked, illustrated, edited, printed, and published. It happened.

It happened, and no amount of crying, coping, raging, or fanfiction is going to change that.

In the end, this is the Eren we got, and it's going to be the Eren we'll always have.

You know, unless Isayama decides to turn him into something else like a litterbox, or something.

Whichever.
Did it always have to be this way?
 

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Finally Isayama is making an Attack on Titan Sequel

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>Eren reincarnated into a parallel universe!!
>E: Where...
>(But he got hit by a truck)
>E: am I?
>What's with this guy?
>(Reincarnated a second time!)
>I don't know, but he looks like a small fry
>A Monster! We are no match for it so run!
>(He was made light of, BUT
>When he showed his titan powers...)
>E: Eh? Did I step on something? (cutesy tone)
>EEEEEH
>LN title: The Incident when, In a moment, I was Reincarnated to Japan then Died and was Reincarnated to a Parallel World, and everyone was underestimating me, but when I Tried Transforming for a little bit everyone changed their attitude at once and I am Now Being Spoiled
 
Finally Isayama is making an Attack on Titan Sequel

View attachment 2245704
>Eren reincarnated into a parallel universe!!
>E: Where...
>(But he got hit by a truck)
>E: am I?
>What's with this guy?
>(Reincarnated a second time!)
>I don't know, but he looks like a small fry
>A Monster! We are no match for it so run!
>(He was made light of, BUT
>When he showed his titan powers...)
>E: Eh? Did I step on something? (cutesy tone)
>EEEEEH
>LN title: The Incident when, In a moment, I was Reincarnated to Japan then Died and was Reincarnated to a Parallel World, and everyone was underestimating me, but when I Tried Transforming for a little bit everyone changed their attitude at once and I am Now Being Spoiled
Doubt this is real. IIRC, didn’t earlier volumes have weird promos for stuff involnving the characters?
 

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