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If you survive to voting age in Australia you're basically immune to everything except aging.

That's the real reason abbos huff anything they can get their hands on. They seek death, and yet cannot find it.

Such is the fate of the Australian.
It's true though. When I moved here, I had to prove to the immigration officer I was capable of withstanding the Australian environment. He put a big spider on the desk, and I just reached over, grabbed it and ate it.
He deducted points becuase I chewed, instead of swallowing it alive.
 

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'Unacceptable': UN committee damns Australia's record on human rights

Australia has been excoriated before the UN human rights committee for its “chronic non-compliance” with the committee’s recommendations, drawing particular condemnation over the mandatory detention of children and the same-sex marriage survey.

Prof Yuval Shany, the committee’s vice-chair, said it was “unacceptable” for Australia to “routinely reject” the committee’s views, or “self-judge” international human rights treaties, telling Australia it could not “pick and choose” which laws it sought to follow and which rights it wanted to uphold.
Australia’s lack of implementation of committee findings was “completely off the charts for the committee”, Shany said. “It’s incredible for a country that claims to have a leading role in global human rights.”

While Australia had a “generally strong record” on human rights, Shany said, it had “very little to be proud of” in addressing failings identified by the human rights committee and other national and international bodies.

“There seems to be a misunderstanding of the purpose of the views of the committee – they are not an invitation to respond … they are an articulation of a specific duty to take action on Australia’s obligation under the covenant,” Shany said.
“While the function of the human rights council is not as such a judicial body, the views … are characteristic of a judicial decision … [and] represent an authoritative view.”
“While we can accept, in some cases, delay, because changes take time especially in implementing domestic legislation, it is unacceptable for a state to almost routinely fail to implement the views of the committee and in essence challenges the expert nature of the committee.”

The committee made particular reference to the government’s dismissal of the Australian Human Rights Commission’s 2015 report The Forgotten Children, which found that immigration detention centres were a “dangerous place for children” and called for a royal commission into the mandatory detention of children.

The then prime minister, Tony Abbott, dismissed the report as a “blatantly partisan politicised exercise”. The committee was especially troubled that the then commission chair, Prof Gillian Triggs, was asked to resign by the attorney general before the report was published.

Australia’s marriage equality postal survey was also criticised. A committee member, Sarah Cleveland, told the Australian delegation: “Human rights are not to be determined by opinion poll or a popular vote.”

Other issues addressed by the committee included domestic violence, transgender rights, the sterilisation of intellectually disabled women and girls, and the impact of anti-terrorism laws on civil liberties.

Australia’s refugee policies will be further examined overnight Australia time.

The country’s permanent representative to the UN in Geneva, John Quinn, said Australia was “not complacent” in regards to its adherence to international human rights law. He acknowledged there were things it “could do better”.

But the Australian delegation said the implementation of the committee’s views would have to be an area where the committee and the government “respectfully disagree”. Australia, the committee was told, does not regard the views of the committee and other treaty bodies as legally binding.

Amy Frew, a lawyer with the Human Rights Law Centre in Geneva for the hearings, said committee members were clearly dismayed at Australia’s disdain for the committee’s expertise and processes.

“The condemnation shows how far we have strayed from the promises we made to uphold the civil and political rights of Australians and people in our care.”

Australia’s periodic examination by the UN human rights committee in Geneva, comes in the same week as Australia was elected uncontested to the UN human rights council in New York.
The foreign minister, Julie Bishop, has nominated as priorities for Australia’s three-year term: gender equality; good governance; freedom of expression; Indigenous rights; strong national human rights institutions; and the global abolition of the death penalty.

Another arm of the UN focused on Australia this week. On Wednesday, the office of the United Nations high commissioner for refugees said Australia had responsibility to prevent the “looming humanitarian emergency” caused by its enforced closure of its Manus Island offshore detention centre while hundreds of men remained living there.

“Having created the present crisis, to now abandon the same acutely vulnerable human beings would be unconscionable,” said Thomas Albrecht, UNHCR’s regional representative in Canberra.

“Legally and morally, Australia cannot walk away from all those it has forcibly transferred to Papua New Guinea and Nauru.”

As a Muslim, I'm proud to support marriage equality


I know that discussions about marriage equality can challenge people’s personal views. These are not easy conversations to have. Believe me, I’ve had many. I still do.

After being elected to the New South Wales upper house as the first female Muslim MP in any parliament in Australia, the media immediately focused on the question of how I would reconcile my faith with the Greens’ support for LGBTQI rights.
While this same question would rarely be asked of an MP who identifies as Christian or Jewish, I wasn’t surprised.

In Australia there is a negative attitude towards Muslims rife with stereotypes. I have never shied away from publicly supporting marriage equality, not then and not now.

As a Muslim, I grew up with values of compassion, justice and dignity. For me it’s a question of removing discrimination and providing hope and happiness to all loving couples regardless of their race, religion, sex, sexuality or gender identity. It matters to me that everyone has the same right to enjoy love, partnership and commitment that my husband and I do.

Who can better understand the trials and tribulations of being a minority community than a brown, migrant, Muslim woman? We know what it feels like to face prejudice.
I came to Australia as a migrant from Pakistan 25 years ago. This is where both my children have grown up and where I’ve studied and worked. We’ve had many great opportunities but also faced barriers for no other reason than simply being who we are.

Australian Muslims are bearing the brunt of the current wave of racism, division and Islamophobia. While we ask others to defend our rights to our culture and religion, surely it’s incumbent upon us to do the same for others being treated unfairly. Discrimination against anyone should be an affront to us all.

Because of my continued support for marriage equality, including co-sponsoring the cross-party marriage equality bill in NSW parliament in 2013 , I’ve been told by some friends and family that “western” thinking has got to me, that I’ve been brainwashed, that I’ve lost my way and that I’ll burn in the fires of hell for eternity.

This hurts.

Like people of any other faith, Muslims come in all shapes and sizes and we have a variety of political views and values.

There are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Muslims. Some of us will be vocal about our support for marriage equality, others will vote quietly. For those still on the fence, please consider this: marriage equality doesn’t mean anyone will be forced to do anything they don’t want to. It just means that other people will have the same rights as heterosexual people who are free to marry the person they love. Why would we deny this basic right to any other couple?

That’s why my husband, my children and I are voting yes , publicly and proudly. As a mother, I can’t fathom the idea that in 2017 there are Australians, particularly young people, whose very identity is being challenged in public debate.

Multicultural ethnic communities are not homogeneous conservative caricatures that the media makes us out to be. Groups like Muslims for Marriage Equality, the Australian Council of Hindu Clergy, the Asian Australian Alliance and the Arab Council support civil marriage because they know, perhaps better than most, that all Australians must be treated equally.

We want our LGBTIQ friends and loved ones to have the same rights we have. It’s that simple.
  • Dr Mehreen Faruqi is a NSW Greens MP and the Greens spokeswoman on multiculturalism.

:story:
 

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“There seems to be a misunderstanding of the purpose of the views of the committee – they are not an invitation to respond … they are an articulation of a specific duty to take action on Australia’s obligation under the covenant,” Shany said.
“While the function of the human rights council is not as such a judicial body, the views … are characteristic of a judicial decision … [and] represent an authoritative view.”
“While we can accept, in some cases, delay, because changes take time especially in implementing domestic legislation, it is unacceptable for a state to almost routinely fail to implement the views of the committee and in essence challenges the expert nature of the committee.”

Australia’s marriage equality postal survey was also criticised. A committee member, Sarah Cleveland, told the Australian delegation: “Human rights are not to be determined by opinion poll or a popular vote.”
Well, koala rapists, it seems your rulers have spoken on this matter.
 

Begemot

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Well, koala rapists, it seems your rulers have spoken on this matter.
It's the current year after all. ..
What a bunch of smug tosspots.

See, the arid Neo-Liberalism (with God-bothering tacked on) of Tony Abbott doesn't appeal to me either. I'm stuck in the middle. An atheist Burkean Conservative that's okay with gay marriage and avidly wants energy policy to switch to renewables. There's no party for me in this country.
 

heathercho

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'Unacceptable': UN committee damns Australia's record on human rights

Australia has been excoriated before the UN human rights committee for its “chronic non-compliance” with the committee’s recommendations, drawing particular condemnation over the mandatory detention of children and the same-sex marriage survey.

Prof Yuval Shany, the committee’s vice-chair, said it was “unacceptable” for Australia to “routinely reject” the committee’s views, or “self-judge” international human rights treaties, telling Australia it could not “pick and choose” which laws it sought to follow and which rights it wanted to uphold.
Australia’s lack of implementation of committee findings was “completely off the charts for the committee”, Shany said. “It’s incredible for a country that claims to have a leading role in global human rights.”

While Australia had a “generally strong record” on human rights, Shany said, it had “very little to be proud of” in addressing failings identified by the human rights committee and other national and international bodies.

“There seems to be a misunderstanding of the purpose of the views of the committee – they are not an invitation to respond … they are an articulation of a specific duty to take action on Australia’s obligation under the covenant,” Shany said.
“While the function of the human rights council is not as such a judicial body, the views … are characteristic of a judicial decision … [and] represent an authoritative view.”
“While we can accept, in some cases, delay, because changes take time especially in implementing domestic legislation, it is unacceptable for a state to almost routinely fail to implement the views of the committee and in essence challenges the expert nature of the committee.”

The committee made particular reference to the government’s dismissal of the Australian Human Rights Commission’s 2015 report The Forgotten Children, which found that immigration detention centres were a “dangerous place for children” and called for a royal commission into the mandatory detention of children.

The then prime minister, Tony Abbott, dismissed the report as a “blatantly partisan politicised exercise”. The committee was especially troubled that the then commission chair, Prof Gillian Triggs, was asked to resign by the attorney general before the report was published.

Australia’s marriage equality postal survey was also criticised. A committee member, Sarah Cleveland, told the Australian delegation: “Human rights are not to be determined by opinion poll or a popular vote.”

Other issues addressed by the committee included domestic violence, transgender rights, the sterilisation of intellectually disabled women and girls, and the impact of anti-terrorism laws on civil liberties.

Australia’s refugee policies will be further examined overnight Australia time.

The country’s permanent representative to the UN in Geneva, John Quinn, said Australia was “not complacent” in regards to its adherence to international human rights law. He acknowledged there were things it “could do better”.

But the Australian delegation said the implementation of the committee’s views would have to be an area where the committee and the government “respectfully disagree”. Australia, the committee was told, does not regard the views of the committee and other treaty bodies as legally binding.

Amy Frew, a lawyer with the Human Rights Law Centre in Geneva for the hearings, said committee members were clearly dismayed at Australia’s disdain for the committee’s expertise and processes.

“The condemnation shows how far we have strayed from the promises we made to uphold the civil and political rights of Australians and people in our care.”

Australia’s periodic examination by the UN human rights committee in Geneva, comes in the same week as Australia was elected uncontested to the UN human rights council in New York.
The foreign minister, Julie Bishop, has nominated as priorities for Australia’s three-year term: gender equality; good governance; freedom of expression; Indigenous rights; strong national human rights institutions; and the global abolition of the death penalty.

Another arm of the UN focused on Australia this week. On Wednesday, the office of the United Nations high commissioner for refugees said Australia had responsibility to prevent the “looming humanitarian emergency” caused by its enforced closure of its Manus Island offshore detention centre while hundreds of men remained living there.

“Having created the present crisis, to now abandon the same acutely vulnerable human beings would be unconscionable,” said Thomas Albrecht, UNHCR’s regional representative in Canberra.

“Legally and morally, Australia cannot walk away from all those it has forcibly transferred to Papua New Guinea and Nauru.”

As a Muslim, I'm proud to support marriage equality


I know that discussions about marriage equality can challenge people’s personal views. These are not easy conversations to have. Believe me, I’ve had many. I still do.

After being elected to the New South Wales upper house as the first female Muslim MP in any parliament in Australia, the media immediately focused on the question of how I would reconcile my faith with the Greens’ support for LGBTQI rights.
While this same question would rarely be asked of an MP who identifies as Christian or Jewish, I wasn’t surprised.

In Australia there is a negative attitude towards Muslims rife with stereotypes. I have never shied away from publicly supporting marriage equality, not then and not now.

As a Muslim, I grew up with values of compassion, justice and dignity. For me it’s a question of removing discrimination and providing hope and happiness to all loving couples regardless of their race, religion, sex, sexuality or gender identity. It matters to me that everyone has the same right to enjoy love, partnership and commitment that my husband and I do.

Who can better understand the trials and tribulations of being a minority community than a brown, migrant, Muslim woman? We know what it feels like to face prejudice.
I came to Australia as a migrant from Pakistan 25 years ago. This is where both my children have grown up and where I’ve studied and worked. We’ve had many great opportunities but also faced barriers for no other reason than simply being who we are.

Australian Muslims are bearing the brunt of the current wave of racism, division and Islamophobia. While we ask others to defend our rights to our culture and religion, surely it’s incumbent upon us to do the same for others being treated unfairly. Discrimination against anyone should be an affront to us all.

Because of my continued support for marriage equality, including co-sponsoring the cross-party marriage equality bill in NSW parliament in 2013 , I’ve been told by some friends and family that “western” thinking has got to me, that I’ve been brainwashed, that I’ve lost my way and that I’ll burn in the fires of hell for eternity.

This hurts.

Like people of any other faith, Muslims come in all shapes and sizes and we have a variety of political views and values.

There are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Muslims. Some of us will be vocal about our support for marriage equality, others will vote quietly. For those still on the fence, please consider this: marriage equality doesn’t mean anyone will be forced to do anything they don’t want to. It just means that other people will have the same rights as heterosexual people who are free to marry the person they love. Why would we deny this basic right to any other couple?

That’s why my husband, my children and I are voting yes , publicly and proudly. As a mother, I can’t fathom the idea that in 2017 there are Australians, particularly young people, whose very identity is being challenged in public debate.

Multicultural ethnic communities are not homogeneous conservative caricatures that the media makes us out to be. Groups like Muslims for Marriage Equality, the Australian Council of Hindu Clergy, the Asian Australian Alliance and the Arab Council support civil marriage because they know, perhaps better than most, that all Australians must be treated equally.

We want our LGBTIQ friends and loved ones to have the same rights we have. It’s that simple.
  • Dr Mehreen Faruqi is a NSW Greens MP and the Greens spokeswoman on multiculturalism.

:story:

A muslim GREENS MP. Of fucking course. Remember when they used to be about the environment?

It's the current year after all. ..
What a bunch of smug tosspots.

See, the arid Neo-Liberalism (with God-bothering tacked on) of Tony Abbott doesn't appeal to me either. I'm stuck in the middle. An atheist Burkean Conservative that's okay with gay marriage and avidly wants energy policy to switch to renewables. There's no party for me in this country.

I like Tony, I just don't always agree with him. I don't think there would ever be a politician that one could agree with on everything, but I don't know... I'd rather someone who's going to tell the UN to shut it's piehole than someone who will capitulate to them. The UN is UNimportant these days.
 

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It's the current year after all. ..
What a bunch of smug tosspots.

See, the arid Neo-Liberalism (with God-bothering tacked on) of Tony Abbott doesn't appeal to me either. I'm stuck in the middle. An atheist Burkean Conservative that's okay with gay marriage and avidly wants energy policy to switch to renewables. There's no party for me in this country.
bugman
 

Ineedahero

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Well, koala rapists, it seems your rulers have spoken on this matter.
Check again -

But the Australian delegation said the implementation of the committee’s views would have to be an area where the committee and the government “respectfully disagree”. Australia, the committee was told, does not regard the views of the committee and other treaty bodies as legally binding.

Amy Frew, a lawyer with the Human Rights Law Centre in Geneva for the hearings, said committee members were clearly dismayed at Australia’s disdain for the committee’s expertise and processes.

“The condemnation shows how far we have strayed from the promises we made to uphold the civil and political rights of Australians and people in our care.”

Australia’s periodic examination by the UN human rights committee in Geneva, comes in the same week as Australia was elected uncontested to the UN human rights council in New York.
In diplomacy speak that's how they say 'ahaahahahaha, go fuck yourself.'
 

Vorhtbame

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“The condemnation shows how far we have strayed from the promises we made to uphold the civil and political rights of Australians and people in our care.”

Ladies and gentlemen, in one phrase, this is how the UN views you: not as free people, not as self-determining adults, but as children or mental patients who require guardians and caretakers.
 

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Correct Me if I'm wrong but isn't all this fuss over a glorified Opinion Poll? Because seriously it's a Plebiscite not a Binding Referendum.

Elitists and ideologues don't like the opinions of the proles being taken into consideration because there's a good chance it'll contradict their agenda.
 
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Correct Me if I'm wrong but isn't all this fuss over a glorified Opinion Poll? Because seriously it's a Plebiscite not a Binding Referendum.

It would be a non issue if we didn't have a retarded prime minister who looks like a thumb. When he's not gloating and smirking like a stoned koala, he occasionally pops up to tell people how "by Christmas we'll have the survey counted and a decision on SSM".
So when you have him - he who says and does nothing all year round - pop up to reinforce that idea as well as his media cronies, it's hard not to have it morph into something other than it being what it is - a glorified opinion poll.

That and he knows his leadership is in question come next election and he wants to besmirch and lord over Tony Abbott as much as possible.
 

The Valeyard

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Marriage equality opponents call for broad right to discriminate

The no campaign in the marriage law postal survey has pushed for broad exemptions to discrimination law to allow service providers to refuse any weddings that send “a message with which they disagree”.

Marriage equality advocates have warned that such a stance would allow service providers to discriminate against couples on any basis.

On Friday Guardian Australia asked the Coalition for Marriage if it supported the right of private service providers such as bakers, florists and photographers to reject weddings on the basis of religious beliefs.
Questions gave numerous examples, including the marriage of couples of: mixed faith, mixed race, who had engaged in sex before marriage, used contraception or been divorced.

A Coalition for Marriage spokeswoman, Monica Doumit, responded that the group “believes that no one should be coerced to use their creative talents to endorse a message with which they disagree”.

She said: “For example, we support the right of the many advertising agencies and meeting venues who have denied us service during this campaign to do so.”

The Equality Campaign executive director, Tiernan Brady, said the comments showed the no campaign was engaged in “a blatant attempt to unravel existing anti-discrimination laws which serve everyone in Australia well, not just LGBTI people”.

“It would appear the no side are suggesting anybody in Australia can refuse service for anyone else on any grounds they wish,” he said. “The Australian people won’t stand for that – they don’t want to go back in time in such a fashion.”

Brady said allowing discrimination on the basis of any private belief was “the ultimate slippery slope”.

The Australian Christian Lobby has called for private service providers to be able to refuse gay weddings but Doumit’s comments are the broadest expression so far in the postal survey campaign of how far a religious exemption to discrimination law could extend.

On Tuesday Labor endorsed the cross-party bill produced by the Liberal senator Dean Smith after a Senate committee inquiry, in effect ruling out any further religious freedoms beyond the ability of religious ministers, celebrants and organisations to refuse to conduct weddings.

The debate about exemptions to anti-discrimination law comes before a sitting week that will be the last before parliament resumes on 13 November and the result of the marriage law postal survey is announced on 15 November.

John Howard has warned there will not be enough time to protect religious freedom after the result.

But Liberal sources have played down the possibility, with supporters of same-sex marriage noting that senators are busy with estimates hearings and are not all present in the party room, and one conservative suggesting that a bill would not be released until after the result for fear of appearing defeatist.

The national director of Liberals and Nationals for Yes, Andrew Bragg, said if a yes vote was recorded in the survey a private member’s bill would go ahead, as Malcolm Turnbull has said.

He said a bill would be guided by three principles: “Firstly, existing discrimination in the Marriage Act should be eliminated; secondly, a strong protection for religious freedom should be provided; and thirdly, we should not reintroduce commercial discrimination in Australia.”

“It would be self-defeating to repeal discrimination and replace it with discrimination,” Bragg said.

A Liberal supporter of same-sex marriage told Guardian Australia: “At a time when the public regard for politicians is at an all-time low, the Australian community will not tolerate some politicians playing politics with a yes vote on marriage.

“It will be a brave conservative Liberal politician who seeks to delay or use parliamentary tricks to undermine a yes vote.
“If there is a yes vote, Australians will expect the parliament to act expeditiously on giving effect to same-sex marriage and providing sensible and fair protections about religious views in regards to marriage.”

At the National Press Club in September the ACL executive director, Lyle Shelton, was asked how exemptions to discrimination law could be drafted so that they did not result in “extreme” cases of religious people discriminating against inter-race couples.

Shelton dismissed the question as a “hypothetical” because “I don’t think anyone is suggesting that there should be racial discrimination – I certainly wouldn’t be”.

He suggested laws to allow lawful refusal of gay weddings could be limited to “allowing people to continue to believe the same thing about marriage”.

He warned that if such an exemption to discrimination law were not granted, people would not be able to “live out publicly” their religious beliefs in the way they conducted their business.

In September 2016 the then Liberal senator Cory Bernardi said businesses should be allowed to discriminate against patrons “for any or no reason”, including but not limited to the right to refuse gay weddings.
 

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And as we all know, refusing to provide flowers to a wedding is the exact same thing as throwing the happy couple off of a rooftop or lynching black people.

So as you can see, this isn't about ensuring people have equal rights. This is about controlling people's behavior and suppressing the expression of beliefs that the government doesn't like. The same people who screech about theocracy don't actually mind it; they just want one with their own beliefs at the top.
 

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And as we all know, refusing to provide flowers to a wedding is the exact same thing as throwing the happy couple off of a rooftop or lynching black people.

So as you can see, this isn't about ensuring people have equal rights. This is about controlling people's behavior and suppressing the expression of beliefs that the government doesn't like. The same people who screech about theocracy don't actually mind it; they just want one with their own beliefs at the top.
What I don't undertand is why you would want to force somebody to make something for your wedding. It's a commission, if they don't want my money, why would I insist on that person on particular when they'll likely do a shitty job just as an extra fuck you?

I walk into a bakery to commission something and the black owner says "Fuck off honky, I don't do shit for beckys", I'm sure as shit not going to insist on hiring them, god knows there'd be spit (at best) in anything I bought there.
 

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What I don't undertand is why you would want to force somebody to make something for your wedding. It's a commission, if they don't want my money, why would I insist on that person on particular when they'll likely do a shitty job just as an extra fuck you?

I walk into a bakery to commission something and the black owner says "Fuck off honky, I don't do shit for beckys", I'm sure as shit not going to insist on hiring them, god knows there'd be spit (at best) in anything I bought there.

Or you buy an almond-flavored cake from someone you believe would kill you as soon as look at you. I mean, I get that SJWs like to play the martyr, but that seems to be taking it a bit far.
 
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