Yeah, Patrick Bateman is much more sadistic and depraved in the book. But I think the movie is so well done, so funny, and so visually appealing. It was a great--albeit sanitized--adaptation given the source material.
It's funny. I love Ligotti's fiction, but the Conspiracy Against the Human Race blows everything else out of the water. He knows. He has seen. If you are a natural pessimist, the book feels like a homecoming. There is solace, to see such a personal, intimate despair articulated perfectly, succinctly, honestly. I think the healthy mind shuns the information as part of our internal 'Terror Management' systems, making it a difficult read. For the lost, it's a map leading through this dark territory. ♡My main social group circulate book after book to each other, and the only book I've had any of them complain about was The Conspiracy Against The Human Race by Thomas Ligotti, mostly the complaints were that it was too dark or unsettling to finish reading. I think the author is actually trying to disturb and alienate his readers.
"The Conspiracy against the Human Race is renowned horror writer Thomas Ligotti's first work of nonfiction. Through impressively wide-ranging discussions of and reflections on literary and philosophical works of a pessimistic bent, he shows that the greatest horrors are not the products of our imagination. The worst and most plentiful horrors are instead to be found in reality. Mr. Ligotti's calm, but often bloodcurdling turns of phrase, evoke the dreadfulness of the human condition. Those who cannot bear the truth will pretend this is another work of fiction, but in doing so they perpetuate the conspiracy of the book's title."
--David Benatar, author of Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence; Department of Philosophy, University of Cape Town, South Africa
The film is so well done and lets be real most people know movies more than book, while different some can fight movie was better, they are both great and book is darker and fleshed out, I see a debate movie is better because it's stunningly well done and you can see Pat doing worse and thinking worse.Yeah, Patrick Bateman is much more sadistic and depraved in the book. But I think the movie is so well done, so funny, and so visually appealing. It was a great--albeit sanitized--adaptation given the source material.
Murdoch Murdoch summed it up so well "it's just trying man"I'm surprised nobody else has said The Turner Diaries considering it's offended most of the public because of the story line and it's considered to be a white nationalist novel.
That book makes everyone very angry.
A mediocre book but so controversial since all you have to do is mention the book and you get people raging at you.The film is so well done and lets be real most people know movies more than book, while different some can fight movie was better, they are both great and book is darker and fleshed out, I see a debate movie is better because it's stunningly well done and you can see Pat doing worse and thinking worse.
Murdoch Murdoch summed it up so well "it's just trying man"
It's mad max and race war, but not as awesome as you expect.
Of course it did.ends up fucking the (literal, as in the animal, not a gay hairy dude) bear that lives there. It won basically every award that can be given for literature in Canada.
I'd read this. Panzram was very unapologetic about his activities, so it would be interesting to see how such a callous monster was created.I'd also recommend Panzram: a Journal of Murder that I finished a month or so ago.
It's the diary of serial killer Carl Panzram interspersed with an editorial clarifying the history of the U.S. and the prison system at the time. The authors of the editorial make the point that it was really the prison system that was at fault that created Panzram.
I read this. The novel read like a Communist propaganda piece but it did play an influential role in increasing food safety. I remember reading that Teddy Roosevelt became so disgusted after reading the novel that he spit out his breakfast eggs, but that sounds fanciful.I'm not as well read as a lot of you people here, you all have some really good picks, many that I've never heard of. The only thing I've read that I can think of right now that was pretty f'd up was "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair. It's a pretty common, well known book but if you've never heard of it, it's about an immigrant that gets a job in the meat packing industry in Chicago around the turn of the century.
Pet Sematary was easily his most depressing novel.Pet Sematary spooked me a great deal when I first read it. Mostly because of how much death is discussed and how unnatural it all feels. Not to give obvious spoilers but a main character dies prematurely somewhere in the book and another character goes on a long emotional dirge where they hallucinate the dead character's entire life had they not died. It's pretty fucked up.
It is some truly dark shit. Panzram details very matter of factly how he raped and murdered multiple children and grown men.I'd read this. Panzram was very unapologetic about his activities, so it would be interesting to see how such a callous monster was created.
When he was thrown in prison for the last time, he told the warden "I'll kill the first man that bothers me," shortly before killing the first man that bothered him by beating him to death with an iron bar.It is some truly dark shit. Panzram details very matter of factly how he raped and murdered multiple children and grown men.
Funny you mention that because in his diary he would say how every time he was in a reform school or group home (which in reality was forced labor with beatings back in those days) or in front of a judge he would lie to them and say he found Jesus and will be a good boy. That's how he'd get leniency.He may have been a murderous rapist and child molester, but he stood head and shoulders over all those fuckwads who "found Jesus" or some other bullshit to try to save their worthless hides.