Bethesda Salt - PAID MODS MEIN FUHRER

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IT BEGINS

 

[Pikapool]

Oh I'll get the popcorn

 

[Male]

Can't wait to pay Bethesda points for something that could potentially crash the game.

 

[TheScooper]

Did they learn nothing after the steam incident?

 

[tehpope]

 

[RP 520]

We'll need to add Wolfenstien to the title too. People on /v/,/vg/,and /pol/are starting to notice the game's main characters Billy is allying with are an old anti-American commie, 1970's Blaxploitation Black Panther, and an Arab.

 

[Solzhenitsyn]

Bethesda really is determined to squeeze every last drop out of Skyrim, huh?
There was always going to be massive salt over this conference since no new Elder Scrolls or Fallout games were announced (bar some Hearthstone clone).

 

[OwO What's This?]

• What is the Creation Club?
  Creation Club is a collection of all-new content for both Fallout 4 and Skyrim. It features new items, abilities, and gameplay created by Bethesda Games Studiosand outside development partners including the best community creators. Creation Club content is fully curated and compatible with the main game and official add-ons.
  
  
• What types of content will be included in Creation Club?
  Creation Club will feature a wide variety of content including but not limited to:
  • WEAPONS: New weapons, material skins, parts, etc.
  • APPAREL: New outfits, armor, and items for your character.
  • WORLD: New locations, decorations, foliage, etc.
  • CHARACTERS: New abilities, characters, companions, etc.
  • CREATURES: New enemies, mounts, pets, etc.
  • GAMEPLAY: New types of gameplay like survival mode, etc.
• What platforms will Creation Club support?
  Creation Club will be available in Summer 2017 on PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC for Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition.
  
  
• How do I get Creation Club content?
  Creation Club is available via in-game digital marketplaces in both Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition and purchased with Credits. Credits are available for purchase on PSN, Xbox Live, and Steam. Your Credits are transferable and can be used in both games on the same platform.
  
  
• Can I become a Creator?
  Whether you are a professional developer, artist, or modder; you can apply to be a Creator here. Be ready to share work you’ve already done as part of your application.
  
  
• If I’m accepted to be a Creator, what can I create and what is the dev process?
  Creators are required to submit documentation pitches which go through an approval process. All content must be new and original. Once a concept is approved, a development schedule with Alpha, Beta and Release milestones is created. Creations go through our full development pipeline, which Creators participate in. Bethesda Game Studios developers work with Creators to iterate and polish their work along with full QA cycles. The content is fully localized, as well. This ensures compatibility with the original game, official add-ons and achievements.
  
  
• Are Creators Paid For Their Work?
  Yes. Just like our own game developers, Creators are paid for their work and start receiving payment as soon as their proposal is accepted and through development milestones.
  
  
• Is Creation Club paid mods?
  No. Mods will remain a free and open system where anyone can create and share what they’d like. Also, we won’t allow any existing mods to be retrofitted into Creation Club, it must all be original content. Most of the Creation Club content is created internally, some with external partners who have worked on our games, and some by external Creators. All the content is approved, curated, and taken through the full internal dev cycle; including localization, polishing, and testing. This also guarantees that all content works together. We’ve looked at many ways to do “paid mods”, and the problems outweigh the benefits. We’ve encountered many of those issues before. But, there’s a constant demand from our fans to add more official high quality content to our games, and while we are able to create a lot of it, we think many in our community have the talent to work directly with us and create some amazing new things.

SO LETS GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT GUYS, these are not 'modders' these are CREATORS... and despite the fact we're calling this a club and you can openly apply, most of the content is going to be stuff we make ourselves, honest!

 

[ICametoLurk]

I'm just gonna leave this here
http://8ch.net/v/res/12748851.html#12773993

SO LETS GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT GUYS, these are not 'modders' these are CREATORS... and despite the fact we're calling this a club and you can openly apply, most of the content is going to be stuff we make ourselves, honest!

Also the Paid Mods aren't Paid Mods, they're simply mods that you pay for.

Is Creation Club paid mods?

No. Mods will remain a free and open system where anyone can create and share what they’d like. Also, we won’t allow any existing mods to be retrofitted into Creation Club, it must all be original content. Most of the Creation Club content is created internally, some with external partners who have worked on our games, and some by external Creators. All the content is approved, curated, and taken through the full internal dev cycle; including localization, polishing, and testing. This also guarantees that all content works together. We’ve looked at many ways to do “paid mods”, and the problems outweigh the benefits. We’ve encountered many of those issues before. But, there’s a constant demand from our fans to add more official high quality content to our games, and while we are able to create a lot of it, we think many in our community have the talent to work directly with us and create some amazing new things.

Big Difference.

 

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Thread renamed for including wolfenstein

 

[ICametoLurk]

Thread renamed for including wolfenstein

This is gonna be awesome.

BRB, gonna get popcorn.

 

[GethN7]

I knew the allure of making money off mods would be something Bethseda would lust for even after getting heat for it before.

If they expect I'm gonna be dumb enough to pay them for crap I can get on the Nexus for free, then lol, no.

However, I am going to pitch a lawn chair and watch the salt geysers go off.

 

[cumrobbery]

 

[NIGGO KILLA]

i just have to wonder how this will fair with Nexus mods still being a thing, you really cant beat free unless you got high quality mods

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

i just have to wonder how this will fair with Nexus mods still being a thing, you really cant beat free unless you got high quality mods

Considering the sheer amount of ill will they brought forth last time? It'll probably blow up in their face again. At least on pc. I have no idea if console gamers have any concept of how stupid this is.

 

[LH 909]

So if I'm reading that right developers get paid while developing and benefit from a QA cycle. This seems like a positive thing. Why are people mad?

 

[TheScooper]

So if I'm reading that right developers get paid while developing and benefit from a QA cycle. This seems like a positive thing. Why are people mad?

Read the shenanigans, that was the paid mods on steam it only lasted one weekend, and the salt was Delicious.

 

[Spellskite]

So if I'm reading that right developers get paid while developing and benefit from a QA cycle. This seems like a positive thing. Why are people mad?

Because paid mods are the way video game publishers are going to nickle and dime consumers even further. And keep in mind, most of your money will be going to Bethesda, not the modder working on the game. It's just a way for Bethesda to profit off the work of others. That's not getting into the shady areas, like how modders could potentially take the work from other mods and profit off it.

If Valve couldn't get away with this, I don't know how Bethesda expects to pull it off.

 

[LH 909]

I can't speak for the percentages, but unlike the valve fiasco they seem to have a heavy hand in curation. You can't throw up anything with a price tag on it. This seems they want outside talent to make expansions to the game. It's not putting a price tag on amateur hour shit, it has to pass a QA team. Those are not free.

Plus some cash upfront, Valve has never offered that kind of deal before. Like anything it could be abused by Bethesda but I think it has the possibility to be positive.

 

[NIGGO KILLA]

So if I'm reading that right developers get paid while developing and benefit from a QA cycle. This seems like a positive thing. Why are people mad?

heres a rundown/history lesson why this shit failed the first time

unless certain aspects change like fair profit shares,making sure assholes dont steal mods/take down stolen content, and keeping the modding community from imploding. this whole system will fail again