Big Pharma behind "Body Positivity"? - An observation.

McKim's Rolled Roof

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Foreword- My GF brought up an observation about "Big Pharma" the other day, and thought I'd gauge the community and see their thoughts on the subject. I've long held the belief that big Pharma has been behind the junk food industry for some time now, and pushes social issues such as this in order to maintain profits.



Do you think "BP" is behind the body positivity movement? More so, is it a way to keep people unhealthy in order to sell them more drugs?
 

Save the Loli

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To a degree, yes. Pharma never wants you to be healthy because then you can't consoom more product i.e. drugs. Fat people are unhealthy and suffer conditions of old age decades younger, therefore they need more drugs to manage high blood pressure, cholestoral, diabetes, etc. If they want to be thin, Pharma will sell them drugs for that or have them pay for surgeries. Big Pharma is pure evil.

Junk food industry is a little different. Look up "Big Sugar", them and the corn lobby are why junk food is so loaded with sugar (either as actual sugar or high-fructose corn syrup) which is a literally addictive chemical that fucks up your metabolism. Basically it makes you hungry for more so you'll be more likely to consoom more food.
 

DumbDude42

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I've long held the belief that big Pharma has been behind the junk food industry
the junk food industry itself is behind the junk food industry lol, mcdonalds makes plenty money on its own

other than that, wouldnt surprise me. pharmaceutical companies have been known to "lobby" (low key bribe) therapists and doctors into liberally prescribing all sorts of medication for all sorts of shit. a notable example is oxycontin, the widespread prescription of oxy for all sorts of pain played a large part in kickstarting the wave of opioid addiction that has ravaged america in these last decades.
there's also been cases where they have done similar lobbying for tranny shit, lobbying therapists and doctors to encourage patients to transition, which in turn makes the patients buy lots of hormones from the pharma corps.

with these precedents in mind, i would not at all be surprised to find that pharma companies are supporting 'fat acceptance' in an effort to increase demand for diabetes medication.
 

Smurfskii

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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised, but my general thought on the issue would be that they're indoctrinating people to become more accepting into the LGBT movement, which would be a Trojan horse to just carry all the other shit with it, troons, acceptance/validity, with it carrying "fat acceptance/body positivity" as a side thing, you need to live under a rock to not notice that the LGBT movement has literally turned from an innocent group to a malignant tumour, spreading around and fucking lynching anyone or anything that dares to oppose it. It's just a mere sub-part of the whole world's ideology shifting in their favor, like sure you'll see your local autist with the "BLM ACAB s/h" bio thats "socialist" but literally consumes the shit out of products the big companies produce, goes against anyone that questions their political ideology's leader, basically be a proud sheep with the herd
 
'No profit in cure'

look at the 'mental health' crisis. BP has more products than markets for them, so they have to create those markets. Exercise? Healthy diet? These things don't help the share price.
 

Toolbox

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They set up the opioid epidemic to get rich, who's to say what else they're behind that isn't as obvious? Personally I can imagine autoimmune disorders have a chance of being triggered by various overmedications of things, such as type 1 diabetes. On the other hand, Type 2 isn't as profitable, but obesity can make it much more tantilizing for the medical industry. Either way insulin is a continual sale, and one that's become incredibly expensive due to very few medical companies owning a ton of patents that make it more effective. This can apply to a lot of other diseases as well and the medicines they need.
 

Rusty Crab

and it kept getting worse...
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Junk food industry is a little different. Look up "Big Sugar", them and the corn lobby are why junk food is so loaded with sugar (either as actual sugar or high-fructose corn syrup) which is a literally addictive chemical that fucks up your metabolism. Basically it makes you hungry for more so you'll be more likely to consoom more food.
It's much worse than that. I have kicked added sugars almost entirely out of my diet (do it, you'll feel so much better). Let me tell you... getting away from sugar in American food is fucking impossible.

It is in LITERALLY EVERYTHING. All breads, all packaged meats, packaged vegetables, crackers, pretzels, condiments, tuna, "natural" peanut butter, sauces (no matter what they are), almost all dairy... it's absolutely fucking baffling.

You eventually learn how to navigate the terrain, but running up against that wall is going to drive you insane.
 

Altzek

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I've always immediately and intuitively framed it as a fast food chain thing, but people here linking it to Big Pharma are also making a good point.
An obese, sick population doesn't just require a lot of food, but also a lot of drugs to cure illness.
If there's no demand, create it. It's how every good salesman acts.


But, aside from the vulgar penny-chasing, I'd argue that an obese and generally sick population lowers the already tiny chances of an uprising, no matter how small considering that we live in the most reactionary period of human history with the most complacent people in human history.
People on mobility scooters can't fight.
 

Jarolleon

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You'd think that America would be to the left of everyone else on social issues, if leftist destruction of any form of standards was mainly pushed by Big Pharma trying to engineer society to maximise dependence on drugs.
I've always immediately and intuitively framed it as a fast food chain thing, but people here linking it to Big Pharma are also making a good point.
An obese, sick population doesn't just require a lot of food, but also a lot of drugs to cure illness.
If there's no demand, create it. It's how every good salesman acts.


But, aside from the vulgar penny-chasing, I'd argue that an obese and generally sick population lowers the already tiny chances of an uprising, no matter how small considering that we live in the most reactionary period of human history with the most complacent people in human history.
People on mobility scooters can't fight.
That goes for both sides though, the government has to recruit someone, at least until the drones get good enough to make WALL-E real. Maybe this is why wellness culture is allowed to flourish in leftist metropoli, but is demonised if it resembles "bro culture" too much.
 

Fougaro

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No. "Body Positivity" is just fat women oy veying about how no normal person wants to fuck them and people in general getting fatter. "Big Pharma" is merely grifting off on this trend and the fact that commercial whaling is illegal everywhere outside Iceland, Japan, Norway and South Korea.
 

Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite

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I think body positivity is just a movement for people who aren't a size 2 that got hijacked by size 22s. There is a huge gap between "I'm not model skinny" and "Moby Dick has returned and learned to ride a scooter."

Plus to be 100% honest most of their bullshit is just that in addition to being fat they have trash personalities. Most of the stories told by the supposed FAs either didn't happen at all or they left out huge details about how they started being rude first and someone replied in kind. Or it's just not an attack. Like if you go to the doctor at 300 lbs and complain of pain they are definitely going to say to put down the fork before handing over scripts. That isn't something that needs a movement to fix it unless you count the fatty in question taking a walk.
 

Meat Target

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IMHO, it started over genuine concerns about young women having body-image-related eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia. Being underweight is just as bad as being overweight, albeit with different health problems associated.

But now they've gone too far in the opposite direction, because Clown World takes whatever the opposite of a given vice is, and assumes that it's automatically virtuous. In reality, both are forms of self-obsessed gluttony (being an overly finicky eater is also a form of gluttony).
 

Meat Target

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I doubt they started it, but I do think they've encouraged it.
This is what I think about most things that get smeared as "conspiracy theories". It's not Bond villains swilling brandy in a smoky board room coordinating it all, but independently-working silos of opportunistic shitbirds who never let a crisis go to waste.

Which, some ways, is even more frightening than a grand plot by Darth Soros.
 

mr.moon1488

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This is what I think about most things that get smeared as "conspiracy theories". It's not Bond villains swilling brandy in a smoky board room coordinating it all, but independently-working silos of opportunistic shitbirds who never let a crisis go to waste.

Which, some ways, is even more frightening than a grand plot by Darth Soros.
I mean when you think about it, that's the way to conduct a grand plot. When you're talking in terms of the population of an entire country, you're going to have at least a few people who develop self-destructive behaviors. If a certain group of (((people))) who control most of the modes of communication want there to be self-destructive behaviors as part of the general culture, all they have to do is wait for one to come to light, promote and encourage that behavior, and then silence anything which would discourage that behavior.

There's a reason sites like these are constantly harrassed and pushed aside by the (((ruling class))). Something as simple as ridicule acts as a powerful negative influence on such behaviors, so that can't be tolerated.
 

Haim Arlosoroff

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Do you think "BP" is behind the body positivity movement? More so, is it a way to keep people unhealthy in order to sell them more drugs?
Its a perfect storm of voter blocs demanding politically the right to fork over cash for feelings and the right to sell adult children an expensive and addictive lifestyle. Food for a 600 pounder releases the same levels of brain chemicals as hard drugs, and keeping them alive can be very profitable for everyone but the civilization and its working class.

Yes, and behind trannies and behind legitimising passing AIDS.
You're forgetting mental illness, which is increasingly treated by drugs and less and less behind any sort of screening process. Sad? Here is a pill that would have required a psych-eval, and maybe even a stay in a padded room, fifty years ago.

I would find it odd if Pharma was just sitting this one out. Read up on Thalidomide, 10,000 children were born with a range of severe deformities. For the FDA refusing approval to market despite the pressure from Richardson-Merrell Pharmaceuticals Co., pharmacologist Frances Oldham Kelsey eventually received the President's Award for Distinguished Federal Civilian Service at a 1962 ceremony with President John F. Kennedy. The severity and location of the deformities depended on how many days into the pregnancy the mother was before beginning treatment; thalidomide taken on the 20th day of pregnancy caused central brain damage, day 21 would damage the eyes, day 22 the ears and face, day 24 the arms, and leg damage would occur if taken up to day 28. Thalidomide did not damage the fetus if taken after 42 days' gestation. The Warsaw Pact countries withheld the drug back from communist citizenry long enough to allow the effects in the West to become known, and then outright banned it.

Today the effects on society and generations of Americans are subtle, deniable, and ignored. Self-destructive behaviors are instead being used by so many in our society for profit and control, especially given the normalcy of powerful anti-psychotics nowadays.
 

ClownBrew

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If a certain group of (((people))) who control most of the

Came here to say as much myself. It's not "Big Pharma" at all--it's your gullible daughter's (((professors))) and (((psychotherapist))) pumping this shit into her mind.

Unless your daughter is wildly hyperintelligent and hellbent on studying either medicine or engineering, discourage her from college.

No, she doesn't have to end up some kind of wall-eyed Duggar-style handmaiden or some Destinee Jade on a stripper's pole. Just steer her toward a skilled trade or something. It would make for a far happier future in many ways.
 

FaramirG

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Not big pharma specifically, but large corporations in general. For example Unilever runs body positivity ads for their cosmetic brands. They're also the world's largest ice cream manufacturer.
 

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