‘Black America’: Amazon Alt-History Drama Envisions Post-Reparations America - take that HBO

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http://deadline.com/2017/08/black-a...nvisions-post-reparations-america-1202139504/

EXCLUSIVE: A century and a half after slavery was abolished in the U.S., the wounds left by one of the darkest periods in American history are far from healed, as evidenced by the controversy surrounding the recent announcement of HBO’s upcoming drama series Confederate, from Game Of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, which explores an alternate timeline of seceded southern states where slavery is legal and has evolved into a modern institution.

Another alternate history drama series, which has been in the works at Amazonfor over a year, also paints a reality where southern states have left the Union but takes a very different approach. Titled Black America, the drama hails from top feature producer Will Packer (Ride Along, Think Like A Man franchises, Straight Outta Compton) and Peabody-winning The Boondocks creator and Black Jesus co-creator Aaron McGruder. It envisions an alternate history where newly freed African Americans have secured the Southern states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama post-Reconstruction as reparations for slavery, and with that land, the freedom to shape their own destiny. The sovereign nation they formed, New Colonia, has had a tumultuous and sometimes violent relationship with its looming “Big Neighbor,” both ally and foe, the United States. The past 150 years have been witness to military incursions, assassinations, regime change, coups, etc. Today, after two decades of peace with the U.S. and unprecedented growth, an ascendant New Colonia joins the ranks of major industrialized nations on the world stage as America slides into rapid decline. Inexorably tied together, the fate of two nations, indivisible, hangs in the balance.

Deadline announced the Packer/McGruder project back in early February. At the time, it was untitled, and the producers would not divulge any details about the storyline beyond it revolving around an alternate universe in the vein of Amazon’s flagship The Man in the High Castle.

It was HBO’s announcement of Confederate this month that prompted the Black America team to reveal the project’s premise. “It felt this was the appropriate time to make sure that audiences and the creative community knew that there was a project that preexisted and we are pretty far down the road with it,” Packer told Deadline.

Black America, which Packer said is in “very, very active development” with McGruder “off and writing,” originated at Amazon Studios. The service’s head of content Roy Price called Packer more than a year ago while the producer was on the set of his latest box office hit Girls Trip. “Literally, Roy said to me, ‘you’re either going to think that I’m crazy or brilliant’,” Packer recalled of how Price opened the conversation. “I said ‘Well, first of all you’re both, second of all, what’s the idea?’ And after I heard it, I said, ‘Yes, that underscores the idea that you’re both crazy and brilliant’.”

While it may have sounded crazy at first, “I was immediately enthralled by the idea; I couldn’t stop thinking about it and what a provocative and bold piece of content it could be,” Packer said. Price soon reached out to McGruder with whom Packer had briefly worked in the past on Think Like A Man and had been looking to team up again. “Being a fan of Aaron, I thought he definitely had the right tone, the right voice, the right wit to handle a project like this,” Packer said. “Aaron and I sat together and talked about what a huge opportunity and responsibility it would be to do this project and do it right.”

As for the tone of the hourlong series, it’s “a drama, but it wouldn’t be Aaron McGruder without traces of his trademark sardonic wit,” Packer said.

Black America creates the kind of utopia that has been on the minds of generations of black Americans for whom the series may have a sense of wish-fulfillment.

“It was something that was personally intriguing for me as a black American,” Packer said. “You would be hard pressed to find many black Americans who have not thought about the concept of reparation, what would happen if reparations were actually given. As a content creator, the fact that that is something that has been discussed thoroughly throughout various demographics of people in this country but yet never been explored to my knowledge in any real way in long-form content, I thought it was a tremendous opportunity to delve into the story, to do it right.”

That involves “bringing on the appropriate historians to make sure we are telling the story in an accurate and responsible way,” Packer said, noting that historians have been brought in as consultants on the project, working with the producers.

Why is working with scholars on a fictional series set in present time so important? “Even though the story is set in contemporary society, not post-slavery, it relies on us being factually correct in telling the story of how we got to a contemporary society where you’ve got a sovereign country that is run by black Americans,” Packer said.

He declined to comment directly on HBO’s Confederate, which Benioff and Weiss will be writing with Malcolm and Nichelle Tramble Spellman, out of respect to its creators because the series has not been made yet. On a personal level, “the fact that there is the contemplation of contemporary slavery makes it something that I would not be a part of producing nor consuming,” he said. “Slavery is far too real and far too painful, and we still see the manifestations of it today as a country for me to ever view that as a form of entertainment.”

Packer said that it is early to talk about Black America‘s message since the series is still being developed. But by answering the questions “what if reparations were given, what would this country and that alternate country look like today, how would Americans look, our communities, relations, I think that there definitely is a message about how we co-exist today where that didn’t happen, there weren’t reparations, and you still have black Americans who are suffering from the effects of slavery in various ways,” Packer said. “You still have the prison-industrial complex that disproportionally imprisons black and brown people, you can trace that back for many reasons to slavery.”

Ultimately, Black America “will speak to where we are now and the mistakes this country has made and things we should do going forward,” Packer said.
 

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No longer able to exploit the genius and industriousness of melanized individuals, White America collapses into savage barbarism, while Black America becomes a cultural and technological utopia just like in ancient Africa.

P sure that the US gave free blacks the opportunity to have their own country (Liberia) in the 19th century, so I'm not sure why they didn't just make a documentary about that country. Surely it would turn out just the same?
 

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Eh, sounds interesting, I'd probably actually watch it as I have Amazon Video but not HBO. Nevertheless---

No longer able to exploit the genius and industriousness of melanized individuals, White America collapses into savage barbarism, while Black America becomes a cultural and technological utopia just like in ancient Africa.

P sure that the US gave free blacks the opportunity to have their own country (Liberia) in the 19th century, so I'm not sure why they didn't just make a documentary about that country. Surely it would turn out just the same?

Yeah a lot of people seem to forget the origin of Liberia.

(And actually Ancient Africa had lots of prosperous kingdoms, think of Nubia and Benin, but obviously they were not without warfare and conflict too.)
 

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I love the anger both of these things will cause. I also really hope there's some analog to Uncle Ruckus in the Black America one.

Incidentally, while McGruder is further "left" than most so-called SJWs, he isn't one of them, and has fairly often been called out as "problematic" in one way or another.

(And actually Ancient Africa had lots of prosperous kingdoms, think of Nubia and Benin, but obviously they were not without warfare and conflict too.)

Or the Mali Empire, ruled by Mansa Musa, arguably not just the wealthiest human being alive at his time in history, but the wealthiest person ever to live.
 

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Didn't we offer them Liberia as a way to atone and have their own separate place? Also, what would this society do with the black people who owned slaves or the mixed race ones? Would they be allowed to stay?
 

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Didn't we offer them Liberia as a way to atone and have their own separate place? Also, what would this society do with the black people who owned slaves or the mixed race ones? Would they be allowed to stay?

The idea of it, like most alternate histories (including the Confederacy one), is obviously just a conceit that allows for parodies of what's actually going on.
 

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Even if the south had won the Civil War, and managed to maintain slavery beyond the 1860s, it would have eventually failed on its own because it was economically unsustainable. I really can't take either side of the discussion seriously if this is the counter-factual they want to entertain. It's :autism: to even try.
 

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Even if the south had won the Civil War, and managed to maintain slavery beyond the 1860s, it would have eventually failed on its own because it was economically unsustainable.

This is part of why I find the concept interesting. The international slave trade was slowly collapsing and would have eventually vanished with our without the Civil War and I'd like to see how the creators reconcile that fact with the show's premise. I'm also curious to see how they would portray slavery in the modern western world.
 

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Ehhh, they both sound pretty masturbatory.

Alternate histories always are. By definition, they're like "what if shit was real that obviously isn't because shit happened."

Also why this is in the Salt Mine is obviously because even speculating about the Black America or victorious Confederacy is enough to make some people really, really mad.

Not about the obvious fact that alternate histories are gay and unrealistic, but just because they don't like the specific alternate history even being something people are allowed to think about.
 

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Ehh, I don't really get the hate. Conceptually, this isn't any worse than Confederate, hell, it may very well have been greenlit because of Confederate. The premise, like most alternate history works, dramatically misunderstands the history it's branching off from, but to no greater a degree than something that I know is awful like CSA.

I'm a sucker for this sort of alternate history stuff, and I'm happy to see more (good) examples of it. There are a lot of shitty expectations being piled onto both this and Confederate, so here's hoping that both shows can rise above that and actually depict something interesting or thought-provoking about an often-misunderstood time period.
 

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Ehh, I don't really get the hate. Conceptually, this isn't any worse than Confederate, hell, it may very well have been greenlit because of Confederate. The premise, like most alternate history works, dramatically misunderstands the history it's branching off from, but to no greater a degree than something that I know is awful like CSA.

I'm a sucker for this sort of alternate history stuff, and I'm happy to see more (good) examples of it. There are a lot of shitty expectations being piled onto both this and Confederate, so here's hoping that both shows can rise above that and actually depict something interesting or thought-provoking about an often-misunderstood time period.

Prediction: the Nazis in The Man in the High Castle will be portrayed with more depth than the Confederates in Confederate.
 
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