Bob vs Barb -

[CalmMyTits]

It's well-documented that one parent can outweigh the other parent's efforts in child-rearing. It is the general consensus of this forum that Bob was a better parent than Barb. He was also the more intelligent one, it was brought up in another thread that he would have morning meetings and conversations with a Korean pastor? He also liked music.

I wonder how much of Bob's (lack of) parenting were actually Barb's efforts to override him because of her speshul baby boy. For example, the Greene County incident. On his own, who knows, maybe Bob would have been more willing to consider special education for Chris, but Barb has proven herself to be extremely stubborn (the hoard, for example, and the current living situation) Chris said that his parents had not shared the same bedroom for 20-some years. I can easily imagine that when Bob tried to discuss their options for what happened in Greene County, Barb was like THEY AINT INSTITUTIONALIZING MUH BABY and refused to be moved by logic.

We know Bob was not the best parent, but we do not know what happened to his ex or his older kids. Seriously, we have not had any clues (as far as I know) to their estrangement, unlike what happened between Barb and Cole, which we know what happened. (maybe his ex wife was a bitch and is responsible for the estrangement of him and his older children, but that is just pure speculation)

Barb was also unwilling to clean the hoard for her husband's last months/days and allowed him to get bitten by bugs. Barb has proven herself to be a selfish and stupid bitch especially as of late. That makes me wonder, without Barb around, might Bob have been a better parent and given his son SOME structure, at least? Perhaps he did try to be a better parent (we see glimmers of this like him sending Chris to college) and he was a intelligent man, we know that, but Barb just stomped over his efforts and he got so worn down by her that he just stopped trying. Hell, she's wearing her son down right now.

 

[Satoru182]

You got somenthing there, I agree that Bob would have a little more dignity in his latter days if he got rid of early.

However I clicked on this thread because i thought it was speculation on a true VS betwen Bob and in the square circle. My money would go to Bob, even if was hevier and psico bitch, I think the military training of Bob would have given him the edge.

Of course Hulk Hogan would have to be the reffery to make sure dosent pull out some dirty tricks.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Barb was also unwilling to clean the hoard for her husband's last months/days and allowed him to get bitten by bugs.

The hoard has been Barb's actual husband for years. It protects her and keeps her safe.

 

[CalmMyTits]

Bob vs Barb in the ring would actually be pretty funny... yeah, Bob's military training would give him an edge even if he's older than her, but given what we know of Barb I can totally see her doing dirty tricks to win.

Barb was also unwilling to clean the hoard for her husband's last months/days and allowed him to get bitten by bugs.

The hoard has been Barb's actual husband for years. It protects her and keeps her safe.

If the hoard was actually keeping her safe it wouldn't be giving her butt holes.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Safe in her mind and safe in real life are two entirely different things. In the end it's just a giant security blanket.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

Tubular is right. It's not rational, but hoarding is an extreme anxiety disorder. This is why, if you watch either of the two TV shows about hoarders, you will see people literally argue with the cleanup crew that they cannot possibly throw out a shit-encrusted baby bootie that was stuck to the floor in an unused room until two minutes ago. Some of them rationalize it by "collecting" (be it old beer cans, 9/11 memorabilia, dolls, purses, or dead animals in the fridge); some of them just cannot believe that it is possible for them to be safe in the world without that shit-encrusted baby bootie.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

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[CalmMyTits]

That is what infuriates me most about hoarders - the ones who have ill or disabled parents, spouses, siblings, children, or pets. It's one thing to choose to live in your own hoard if you live alone, but to refuse to clean it up for other people just pisses me off.

I remember one episode in Hawaii where Dr. Zasio saw that the kitchen was so filthy that the children were not able to access food or feed themselves. By law, she was required to call children protection services. She explained this to the mom very calmly, and the dad even seemed to be on board with the idea because he was frustrated with his wife too, but the wife refused to listen to Dr. Zasio. Even though the welfare of her children were at risk, she still tried to stop Dr. Zasio from making the call, and she still refused to acknowledge that she had a problem.

I feel NO sympathy for people who endanger others with their hoard. I don't give a fuck about their anxiety or whatever other issues they have, there is no excuse for endangering innocent souls with the hoard.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

Great. Now all I can think of is Barb and Bob wrestling and Tomgirl Chris waddling down the ramp to a chorus of boos and, while the ref's back is turned, tossing Barb a Sonichu medallion that she uses to club Bob in the head and get the pin.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Great. Now all I can think of is Barb and Bob wrestling and Tomgirl Chris waddling down the ramp to a chorus of boos and, while the ref's back is turned, tossing Barb a Sonichu medallion that she uses to club Bob in the head and get the pin.

"Get off... BEFORE I GO OFF!!!"

 

[Prowldent]

Alien vs Predator

 

[butt in trouble]

Saying Bob was a better parent than Barb is like saying "I'd rather grind my dick up against tree bark instead of sandpaper"

 

[TheIncredibleLioness]

Weren't Chris and Bob living alone together for a period of time? I could've swore that, around the whole Greene County thing, Chris and Bob up and moved to Richmond, while Barb stayed at the Ruckersville place because she still had her job to go to? I might be getting places/times crossed up, but there was a time where Bob was the only (apparent) authority around the house, as far as I know. Now, what happened during this time, we'll never know -- as far as I know Chris hasn't said too much about that period of his life.

That said, I agree with the idea that Barb just stubbornly wears down whoever she's with -- we saw Bob's condition, and she's doing the same now to Chris. I could see her being the force behind Chris being mainstreamed, but this is pure speculation on my part.

 

[MysticMisty]

Before Greene County Bob tried to sue the Boy Scouts after Chris was kicked out of his troop. Then came the Greene County Incident. After that, Bob and Chris moved to the Richmond area, so Chris could continue to go to school and learn a Bob=approved curriculum in a Bob-approved environment. And when Chris began to attend classes at PVCC, who was the one who chose Chris' degree?

Seriously, I think Barb would have been satisfied to lock him up inside the house so no one would never know their shame of having a 'tard baby (except for when she thought she could get useless pity points out of it), while Bob was determined to prove that Chris is NORMAL, dammit! Except for when he's not, then you're being mean to an AUTISTIC, dammit!

Barb is just plain materialistic and poisonous, and Bob probably knew it for a long time. He very much didn't want to move back to Ruckersville after graduation, because that was her domain. And when they did move back, Bob avoided Barb as much as he could. Hell, it's possible that Bob didn't confront Barb about the hoard in it's beginning because that meant, well, confronting and interacting with Barb. And by the time he did decide to talk to her about it, it was far too late.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Saying Bob was a better parent than Barb is like saying "I'd rather grind my dick up against tree bark instead of sandpaper"

What kind of sandpaper?

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

Saying Bob was a better parent than Barb is like saying "I'd rather grind my dick up against tree bark instead of sandpaper"

Well, wouldn't you?

 

[CalmMyTits]

Before Greene County Bob tried to sue the Boy Scouts after Chris was kicked out of his troop. Then came the Greene County Incident. After that, Bob and Chris moved to the Richmond area, so Chris could continue to go to school and learn a Bob=approved curriculum in a Bob-approved environment. And when Chris began to attend classes at PVCC, who was the one who chose Chris' degree?

Seriously, I think Barb would have been satisfied to lock him up inside the house so no one would never know their shame of having a 'tard baby (except for when she thought she could get useless pity points out of it), while Bob was determined to prove that Chris is NORMAL, dammit! Except for when he's not, then you're being mean to an AUTISTIC, dammit!

Barb is just plain materialistic and poisonous, and Bob probably knew it for a long time. He very much didn't want to move back to Ruckersville after graduation, because that was her domain. And when they did move back, Bob avoided Barb as much as he could. Hell, it's possible that Bob didn't confront Barb about the hoard in it's beginning because that meant, well, confronting and interacting with Barb. And by the time he did decide to talk to her about it, it was far too late.

Actually, I think Barb might have been behind the whole Boy Scout thing as well. Chris comes home crying after being kicked out, and Barb is like OH NO MAH POOR BABY and then harps at Bob to take legal action because he's the man of the house. Just a thought.

As for the degree, I think this was one of the instances where Bob tried to be a good parent. However, he did not pay much attention to his son or his lack of artistic aptitude, otherwise he would have known how ill-suited a CADD degree would be for his son, but he tried to guide his son to a marketable skill.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

As for the degree, I think this was one of the instances where Bob tried to be a good parent. However, he did not pay much attention to his son or his lack of artistic aptitude, otherwise he would have known how ill-suited a CADD degree would be for his son, but he tried to guide his son to a marketable skill.

The problem with Bob is there are instances where he seems lucid and reasonable and others where he seems just as much of a crackpot as Chris and Barb. He had vague ideas about Sonichu but seems to have bought into Chris' delusions that Sonichu was a success despite his son never making any money from it and his artwork being blatantly shit. He also was said to have influenced Chris' opinions on the whole Greene County conspiracy thing and I believe he also suggested that Chris' elementary school principal was gay.

 

[Count groudon]

Bob vs Barb in the ring would actually be pretty funny... yeah, Bob's military training would give him an edge even if he's older than her, but given what we know of Barb I can totally see her doing dirty tricks to win.

Really? I see her losing to a technical knock out by wearing herself out bitching at bob to stop hitting her.

And yeah bob was obviously the better of the two. Barbs a psychotic bitch who just sees people as cuddle boxes. Bob actually thought of Chris as a person instead of a precious little teddy bear. And the way treated the Internet lumberjack in his final days pisses me off SO much

 

[Doc]

Bob's stats are by far superior even if he is dead.