Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger

[Disheveled Pizza]

So why is this agg assault? Does castle doctrine not cover it or is he seriosuly getting this for the warning shot?

His willingness to shoot at something that wasn't the thing causing him to fear for his life and safety, as in the air, harms his defence theory greatly. The fact he opened his door to the threat harms his defence theory greatly. The only thing there reasonably threatening his life was his cholesterol harms his defence theory greatly. There is a duty to retreat, him opening the door is the opposite of that, and castle doctrine often is interpreted as a threat within your home not just someone calling you a fatty outside of your home. It's possible he can use it as a defence but he has an uphill climb to actually get the judge to accept it, and that fatty don't like no hill.

 

[Guntaholic]

His willingness to shoot at something that wasn't the thing causing him to fear for his life and safety, as in the air, harms his defence theory greatly. The fact he opened his door to the threat harms his defence theory greatly. The only thing there reasonably threatening his life was his cholesterol harms his defence theory greatly. There is a duty to retreat, him opening the door is the opposite of that, and castle doctrine often is interpreted as a threat within your home not just someone calling you a fatty outside of your home. It's possible he can use it as a defence but he has an uphill climb to actually get the judge to accept it, and that fatty don't like no hill.

Not only that but if the prosecution was sent clips of that killstream where he was actively engaging with and taunting/daring frank to show up, it's going to be that much harder to make the argument he "feared for his life". Especially when there's clips of him saying "I'll take pleasure in killing you" (I think he said that or something similar but correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[I Push The Pixels]

So why is this agg assault? Does castle doctrine not cover it or is he seriosuly getting this for the warning shot?

While Arkansas has castle doctrine it only goes as far as your front door, you can't shoot at someone on your stoop or yard/field. Pulling a gun is considered assault and the fact that he fired the gun makes it aggravated. He's actually lucky it isn't more as he was near a school he could have gotten reckless endangerment too. If he had actually shot Frank dead, he likely would have a better chance [of not getting charged], even without castle doctrine, because of the threats that Frank made. (edit: yes he is getting it for the warning shot. You can't fire a warning shot. If you are in fear for your life you shoot the person, and if you aren't in fear for your life don't pull the gun at all. Firing the warning shot means you aren't afraid for your life and ruins any "self defense" defense)

 

[Menangiz]

I’m ignorant to American laws but would the fact that Frank was unarmed, sober (as far as I can tell) and knocking on the door work against boogie?

From an outsiders perspective on self defence it really doesn’t look like at any point boogie could legitimately fear for his life where a gun was the necessary intervention tool; I would expect that any law enforcement or judge would say that this situation warrants a locked door with a phone call to police about a harasser at the door.

Wouldn’t opening the door negate any claims of self defence in the sense that now you are engaging in the situation and even escalating it further by coming outside to meet Frank?

I feel like this is going to be a case where internet retards think that shooting someone because they’re standing at your door calling you fat is legal because they don’t leave the house very often and the law will shred it to pieces.

 

[I Push The Pixels]

I’m ignorant to American laws but would the fact that Frank was unarmed, sober (as far as I can tell) and knocking on the door work against boogie?

From an outsiders perspective on self defence it really doesn’t look like at any point boogie could legitimately fear for his life where a gun was the necessary intervention tool; I would expect that any law enforcement or judge would say that this situation warrants a locked door with a phone call to police about a harasser at the door.

Wouldn’t opening the door negate any claims of self defence in the sense that now you are engaging in the situation and even escalating it further by coming outside to meet Frank?

I feel like this is going to be a case where internet retards think that shooting someone because they’re standing at your door calling you fat is legal because they don’t leave the house very often and the law will shred it to pieces.

Yes opening the door hurts his case, and castle law in Arkansas does not extend to your porch. The fact that frank was unarmed doesn't matter only that boogie believed himself to be in mortal danger, which is disproven by the warning shot (if he believed himself to be in danger he would have just shot Frank).

 

[Menangiz]

Yes opening the door hurts his case, and castle law in Arkansas does not extend to your porch. The fact that frank was unarmed doesn't matter only that boogie believed himself to be in mortal danger, which is disproven by the warning shot (if he believed himself to be in danger he would have just shot Frank).

Good to know he’s harming his own case with these antics. I hope he’s one of those people who says way too much to police and fucks themselves up.

 

[AnOminous]

There is a duty to retreat, him opening the door is the opposite of that, and castle doctrine often is interpreted as a threat within your home not just someone calling you a fatty outside of your home.

There isn't a duty to retreat in your own home or the "curtilage," the area directly adjacent to it, like the front porch, yard, a nearby shed, other somewhat vaguely defined parts of the property. That's "castle doctrine" in Arkansas. No duty to retreat doesn't mean you're allowed to shoot wildly in the air because someone annoyed you.

Yes opening the door hurts his case, and castle law in Arkansas does not extend to your porch.

It specifically does.

(B) However, a person is not required to retreat if the person is:

(i) In the person's dwelling or on the curtilage surrounding the person's dwelling and was not the original aggressor; or

(ii) A law enforcement officer or a person assisting at the direction of a law enforcement officer;

A.C.A. § 5-2-607(b)(1)(B)

It might not apply if Boogie is somehow considered the original aggressor, which is actually an interesting question. Hassle was definitely harassing him on his own property after being told to leave, but Boogie escalated it massively.

 

[Agran]

I’m ignorant to American laws but would the fact that Frank was unarmed, sober (as far as I can tell) and knocking on the door work against boogie?

From an outsiders perspective on self defence it really doesn’t look like at any point boogie could legitimately fear for his life where a gun was the necessary intervention tool; I would expect that any law enforcement or judge would say that this situation warrants a locked door with a phone call to police about a harasser at the door.

Wouldn’t opening the door negate any claims of self defence in the sense that now you are engaging in the situation and even escalating it further by coming outside to meet Frank?

I feel like this is going to be a case where internet retards think that shooting someone because they’re standing at your door calling you fat is legal because they don’t leave the house very often and the law will shred it to pieces.

As to the first one- not really because he'd have had no idea whether Frank was armed or not before he'd opened that door and he could claim the possibility of frank being armed made him fear for this life.
That is, of course if he had not opened the stupid door. That was his first mistake and everything he's made after that was the worst you could have done in that situation (except maybe opening the door to shoot Hassle). So the third point looks correct.
And if someone standing at your door calling you fat has made threats against you (I'm gunna rape you Boogie it's gonna be the worst day of your life and so on) you can claim you were in fear for your life- which is the key in any stand your ground/self defense/castle doctrine case: an imminent fear for someone's life that doesn't necessarily have to be justified- what matters is the defender's perception of the threat.

 

[boobnoobmcgoob]

Boogie's cellmate in prison

 

[Disheveled Pizza]

There isn't a duty to retreat in your own home or the "curtilage," the area directly adjacent to it, like the front porch, yard, a nearby shed, other somewhat vaguely defined parts of the property. That's "castle doctrine" in Arkansas. No duty to retreat doesn't mean you're allowed to shoot wildly in the air because someone annoyed you.

It specifically does.

A.C.A. § 5-2-607(b)(1)(B)

It might not apply if Boogie is somehow considered the original aggressor, which is actually an interesting question. Hassle was definitely harassing him on his own property after being told to leave, but Boogie escalated it massively.

The issue I see is that it requires either domestic abuse or a felony being committed WITH the use of force or the belief that a use of force is imminent. Him standing on property that required no force to enter, the garden, isn't force. Him calling him names and knocking on the door isn't force. For whatever crimes Frank did potentially commit, force was never shown even minorly. It'll be a really tough fight to ascribe mean words as force even, but it'll be a good laugh to have the judge give him the sticks and stones dressing down in the closing if it got to that point. So here's hoping.

 

[AnOminous]

The issue I see is that it requires either domestic abuse or a felony being committed WITH the use of force or the belief that a use of force is imminent. Him standing on property that required no force to enter, the garden, isn't force. Him calling him names and knocking on the door isn't force. For whatever crimes Frank did potentially commit, force was never shown even minorly. It'll be a really tough fight to ascribe mean words as force even, but it'll be a good laugh to have the judge give him the sticks and stones dressing down in the closing if it got to that point. So here's hoping.

That's a different analysis. That's the first part of the statute, which is whether you're entitled to use deadly force. The duty to retreat is different. You can have no duty to retreat, but yet not be entitled to use deadly force. Boogie had every right to go out on his own front porch and tell Hassle to leave or even use reasonable force to remove him. If he reasonably thought Hassle had a gun or other deadly weapon and was about to use it, or was about to do a home invasion and cause serious bodily harm to him, he had the right to shoot him.

What he didn't have the right to do, and why he is being prosecuted, is he escalated the situation to deadly force without any legal entitlement to do so.

 

[Disheveled Pizza]

That's a different analysis. That's the first part of the statute, which is whether you're entitled to use deadly force. The duty to retreat is different. You can have no duty to retreat, but yet not be entitled to use deadly force. Boogie had every right to go out on his own front porch and tell Hassle to leave or even use reasonable force to remove him. If he reasonably thought Hassle had a gun or other deadly weapon and was about to use it, or was about to do a home invasion and cause serious bodily harm to him, he had the right to shoot him.

What he didn't have the right to do, and why he is being prosecuted, is he escalated the situation to deadly force without any legal entitlement to do so.

Absolutely he had every right to go out there and even kick the shit out of him to get him to leave, the problem is he used deadly force to intimidate him to leave, not because he was in a situation that warranted it. If he put his tons of fun to good use for once and body slammed Frank he'd have been the hero of the story, instead he's just an idiot who broke the law. The duty to retreat obviously doesn't apply in this situation and I assumed incorrectly about it applying, but at this point it doesn't even really get to that exemption part of the law. The way the law was written and who has the right to use deadly force seemingly doesn't apply on its face to Boogie and while the court might ultimately decide it does after reviewing the case, it needs a finder of fact to figure that out which is why he's being charged. If Frank said he was going to kick down the door, or did anything more aggressive than just lightly knock it'd be different, but Boogie used what looks like unreasonable force and he used it unreasonably by shooting like yosemite sam, into the air recklessly. Luckily no one will have time for this shit and he'll almost definitely get it pled down to something inconsequential and pay a few thousand dollars as a fine, since getting him to do hard labour as community service would be cruel and unusual punishment for a man his size.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

Idiots who are against castle doctrine laws say they allow people who are in situations like boogie's to kill people, yet Arkansas has castle doctrine and he was charged for a lot less than shooting Frank. Its almost like people who oppose castle doctrine laws have no idea what they even are.

 

[Boulder Dash]

What I expect to come now :
Boogie's arrest is going wrong
Female officer ran over and killed by boogie's car
Police chase across state lines
Boogie is texting on twitter during the chase trying to put the blame on somebody else or anxiety for the death of the police officer
Crashes against a tree
Boogie's screaming "don't taze me bro" at police officers
First night in jail, cellmate's black and his name Bubba.
Interracial homo intercourse. Yes null homo rape is funny.
Bubba tries to kill boogie with a shank after only 3 days
Boogie isolated because the other inmates want to kill him after only 2 weeks.
Boogie joins the aryan brotherhood
Boogie changes his name to boogie1488
The aryan brotherhood fires boogie after only 2 days.
Boogie get 6 months probation for the hassle incident and life without parole for the officer death.
Youtube and twitter accounts deleted. Youtubers deny knowing him.
Isolated, threaten, hated by all, boogie decide to commit suicide for real, after 2 decades faking it.
Makes a rope with his shirt and pants.
Jumps from the bed, goodbye cruel world
Rope snaps
Hard landing, bones crushed
Boogie lies naked on the floor, broken leg bones exposed
Guard asleep, doesn't hear boogie's lament.
Boogie shits himself.
Miles away, a dumpster truck leaves an empty house in arkansas.
Useless plastic toys melting.
Fade to black on the identical 2 images of a defeated naken boogie on the floor and a melted toy.

 

[grapeFlayva]

It's not only employability. Credit score goes to shit, banks won't do business with you, even advertising on his dying-out youtube channel will get fucked with.

Does youtube adsense interface with someones's criminal record? I doubt it, but here's to hoping. lmao

 

[AnOminous]

Idiots who are against castle doctrine laws say they allow people who are in situations like boogie's to kill people, yet Arkansas has castle doctrine and he was charged for a lot less than shooting Frank. Its almost like people who oppose castle doctrine laws have no idea what they even are.

This is seriously a problem invented by the so-called "liberal media." They undeniably have a "liberal bias," but they aren't anything but self-serving and don't give a fuck about anything or anyone. If pushing a "right-wing agenda" would serve their purposes better, they'd do that.

But mostly leftist anti-gun propaganda spreads this bullshit about "castle doctrine" and "stand your ground" laws, without even knowing what they are or what they do, and make wild claims that they protect Wild West type shit like randomly shooting Girl Scouts going door to door selling cookies. Unfortunately, a lot of people end up actually believing this shit and then doing it, then act amazed when they up charged with a crime.

This is why anyone who keeps a gun or other weapon for home defense needs to know the law in their own state. It may be better to be tried by twelve than carried by six, but having neither happen is much better. This means have an actual home defense plan, preferably one that involves any resulting dead bodies being inside the house and the door obviously having been broken.

Tactically, to come at you, they have to get in, and once they do, they're in a home you know intimately and they know nothing about, so they're at a serious disadvantage and on top of that no cop except in the most cucked states will even dream of arresting you if they end up dead. YMMV.

So Boogie had no "duty to retreat" legally, but imagine he had just kept the door closed, and told Hassle once, clearly, get the fuck off my property, then called the cops without saying he did so. The cops would have pulled up on Hassle obviously acting like a complete asshole and trespassing. He would have been the one arrested.

 

[Crab Zone]

What I expect to come now :
Boogie's arrest is going wrong
Female officer ran over and killed by boogie's car
Police chase across state lines
Boogie is texting on twitter during the chase trying to put the blame on somebody else or anxiety for the death of the police officer
Crashes against a tree
Boogie's screaming "don't taze me bro" at police officers
First night in jail, cellmate's black and his name Bubba.
Interracial homo intercourse. Yes null homo rape is funny.
Bubba tries to kill boogie with a shank after only 3 days
Boogie isolated because the other inmates want to kill him after only 2 weeks.
Boogie joins the aryan brotherhood
Boogie changes his name to boogie1488
The aryan brotherhood fires boogie after only 2 days.
Boogie get 6 months probation for the hassle incident and life without parole for the officer death.
Youtube and twitter accounts deleted. Youtubers deny knowing him.
Isolated, threaten, hated by all, boogie decide to commit suicide for real, after 2 decades faking it.
Makes a rope with his shirt and pants.
Jumps from the bed, goodbye cruel world
Rope snaps
Hard landing, bones crushed
Boogie lies naked on the floor, broken leg bones exposed
Guard asleep, doesn't hear boogie's lament.
Boogie shits himself.
Miles away, a dumpster truck leaves an empty house in arkansas.
Useless plastic toys melting.
Fade to black on the identical 2 images of a defeated naken boogie on the floor and a melted toy.

Please give me a police chase with Boogie being stupid enough to live stream it as he drives.

 

[DOUCHEQUEER]

It looks better to turn yourself in and surrender rather than a cop coming to his house and taking him out in cuffs.

Also allows him to brag about "doing the right thing".

 

[Agran]

Also allows him to brag about "doing the right thing".

Seriously EVERYTHING this fat fuck does is for show or to influence other peoples' perception of him. Such a narcissistic holier-than-thou giant soggy garbage bag. God I HATE BOOGIE 1488. I hope he gets fuller BLACKED DOT COM experience in prison than his gold digger ex did after she dumped his fat ass

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

At least there is a chance, small as it may be, that this prevents him from adopting a child.

I know no sane government official would ever let him.
I know Boogie is a dopaminergic man baby so he has probably entirely forgotten about trying to relieve himself of his meaningless life by ruining another
I know People would hate-watch Boogie looking to have his child taken from his man-bites-dog lifestyle

But, there's a chance. And if there is a chance then additional steps must be taken. He must not acquire a child, its not that he would eat it, its that he would make that child fat and give him/her mental problems that it could never recover from. Trans & pronoun mental problems.

He's going to be found not guilty, but I wish the court would hang him from a crane or whatever you would need to use to hang 450 pounds. Rope and a wooden scaffold wouldn't work.