BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

Shaka Brah

Patriotic Ass-Blasting Poster
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I will always ask the question that if people really think that Nazism is ready to rise up in America, then why does Media,Academia, Finance, and Tech back your side, the true levers of power?
Subversives can't admit to holding power, or the power of their narrative ends. If they admitted to the iron grip they hold on society it would start being "cool" for people to rebel against them and be right-wing because the cultural zeitgeist they created poses power as "uncool" and rebels as "cool."
 

bogan extreme

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I will always ask the question that if people really think that Nazism is ready to rise up in America, then why does Media,Academia, Finance, and Tech back your side, the true levers of power?
And if they go against the American government narratives then they end up being stooges for the Chinese government.

In the end leftists are the establishment or cucks to it.
 

Puck

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“Question everything maaan” (Except anything the government says otherwise you’re a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut and possible nazi)
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Tranimal Farm

a.k.a. Quixotic Sonichu
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thats pretty hard to do ngl, #Grindset ( also Based pfp ).

Also can we add Tom Nicholas to Breadtube, dudes also pretty dense ngl https://www.youtube.com/c/TomNicholasWTF/videos
This guy made a video about how cancel culture isn't real and mobs are actually a good thing, and the only people who don't like them are the conservative elites. He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse. (which is totally bullshit btw, the mob wasn't considered a valuable contributor to society in Rome) All of this, obviously has little to do with internet cancel culture but he was trying to make some statement about how mobs being unreasonable, unstable, and prone to violence is just a "cultural trope" (his exact words)

No reference to recent, relevant sociological or psychological studies about mob mentality, anonymity as part of a group, de-individuation, ect. Doesn't dare bring up examples of mob mentality or social pressure that would run counter to his argument, such as lynch mobs, pogroms (anti-semitic lynch mobs), or how Nazism was largely able to spread due to social pressure/social contagion. Which is ironic considering in another video he did on Nazis he uses an argument about how open minded people are susceptible to right wing radicalization, which were all familiar with at this point. "Muh youtoob et muh 4chanz are sucking young people down that Nazi rabbit hole." Well guess what dip shit you can't have it both ways. But suddenly as soon as the mob is a leftist one even when it turns ultra violent then they're completely rational and simply expressing the collective will of the people.

Doesn't mention any of the times other Breadtubers even have been stupidly cancelled, a la Contrapoints being called non-binary-phobic when talking about how in ultra woke spaces everyone makes a point of asking her pronouns, when (supposedly) in normal real life situations Contra goes out and people refer to them as a woman without needing to ask. Sorry Hontra I guess you deserved to be cancelled after all. To people like him the mob cannot be overruled cause it is an essential tool in the coming revolution.

So remember farmers, social contagion = REAL when it leads to Nazism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ect. But social contagion = MADE UP RIGHT WING BS when it leads to leftist violence, exploitation of the vulnerable, online cancelling, leftist in group witch hunting, and trans grooming.

And, of course, most of the sources he cited positively were either written by Marxists, or mentioned Marx in some way.
 

Shaka Brah

Patriotic Ass-Blasting Poster
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Which is ironic considering in another video he did on Nazis he uses an argument about how open minded people are susceptible to right wing radicalization, which were all familiar with at this point. "Muh youtoob et muh 4chanz are sucking young people down that Nazi rabbit hole." Well guess what dip shit you can't have it both ways. But suddenly as soon as the mob is a leftist one even when it turns ultra violent then they're completely rational and simply expressing the collective will of the people.
One thing Leftists will never address about this, is that if a sane, open-minded person is so easily convinced by right-wing rhetoric doesn't that mean there's something to it? The open expression of ideas should allow the most agreed-upon ideas to succeed. If those are all right-wing ideas, that means they're better and people prefer them.

It's essentially a tacit admission that Leftism is unpopular, and the only way they can get Leftist ideas to become popular is by tricking and propagandizing people.
 

BootlegPopeye

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He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse.
The orthodox Marxist take (From Karl himself) of the French Revolution is that the killings ended too soon, hence 'Thermidor' being an epithet that survives among them to this day. Occasionally, I've seen Marxists try to argue that it isn't inherently bloodthristy, but it is difficult to make that argument when the movements own founder argued exactly the opposite.
 

Tranimal Farm

a.k.a. Quixotic Sonichu
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One thing Leftists will never address about this, is that if a sane, open-minded person is so easily convinced by right-wing rhetoric doesn't that mean there's something to it? The open expression of ideas should allow the most agreed-upon ideas to succeed. If those are all right-wing ideas, that means they're better and people prefer them.

It's essentially a tacit admission that Leftism is unpopular, and the only way they can get Leftist ideas to become popular is by tricking and propagandizing people.
I wouldn't go that far. I think a lot of people are easily manipulable and can be swayed to an argument so long as its presented to them in an attractive enough way, regardless of whether or not it's inconsistent, dangerous, or just makes no fucking sense. If that weren't the case Breadtubers would be out of a job. Their whole shtick is political commentary that's entirely style over substance and people who don't know any better eat that shit up.

However, I am fervently anti-blackpill and I think their desperate need to justify cancel culture when large swathes of the public, and even left leaning public figures are turning against it ( Marvel cast defending Chris Pratt for example) is a positive sign that they're on the defensive.
 

Shaka Brah

Patriotic Ass-Blasting Poster
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If that weren't the case Breadtubers would be out of a job. Their whole shtick is political commentary that's entirely style over substance and people who don't know any better eat that shit up.
They exist in an environment purely catered towards pushing their position though. Before right-wingers were delisted and banned from YouTube, Breadtube didn't and couldn't exist. All the most popular content was their polar opposite, and many of the same grifters who are now Breadtubers were making right wing content. In an open marketplace of ideas their ideas were almost non-starters.
 

lemmiwinks

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True & Honest Fan
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This guy made a video about how cancel culture isn't real and mobs are actually a good thing, and the only people who don't like them are the conservative elites. He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse. (which is totally bullshit btw, the mob wasn't considered a valuable contributor to society in Rome) All of this, obviously has little to do with internet cancel culture but he was trying to make some statement about how mobs being unreasonable, unstable, and prone to violence is just a "cultural trope" (his exact words)

No reference to recent, relevant sociological or psychological studies about mob mentality, anonymity as part of a group, de-individuation, ect. Doesn't dare bring up examples of mob mentality or social pressure that would run counter to his argument, such as lynch mobs, pogroms (anti-semitic lynch mobs), or how Nazism was largely able to spread due to social pressure/social contagion. Which is ironic considering in another video he did on Nazis he uses an argument about how open minded people are susceptible to right wing radicalization, which were all familiar with at this point. "Muh youtoob et muh 4chanz are sucking young people down that Nazi rabbit hole." Well guess what dip shit you can't have it both ways. But suddenly as soon as the mob is a leftist one even when it turns ultra violent then they're completely rational and simply expressing the collective will of the people.

Doesn't mention any of the times other Breadtubers even have been stupidly cancelled, a la Contrapoints being called non-binary-phobic when talking about how in ultra woke spaces everyone makes a point of asking her pronouns, when (supposedly) in normal real life situations Contra goes out and people refer to them as a woman without needing to ask. Sorry Hontra I guess you deserved to be cancelled after all. To people like him the mob cannot be overruled cause it is an essential tool in the coming revolution.

So remember farmers, social contagion = REAL when it leads to Nazism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ect. But social contagion = MADE UP RIGHT WING BS when it leads to leftist violence, exploitation of the vulnerable, online cancelling, leftist in group witch hunting, and trans grooming.

And, of course, most of the sources he cited positively were either written by Marxists, or mentioned Marx in some way.
This whole attitude is pervasive in Leftist academics. A big influence on the leftist politics today is derived from Marcuse's "Repressive Tolerence":
Herbert Marcuse: said:
movements from the left must be extended tolerance, even when they are violent, while movements from the right must not be tolerated, including suppressing them by violence.
(Italics are my own) https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html
 

Tranimal Farm

a.k.a. Quixotic Sonichu
kiwifarms.net
They exist in an environment purely catered towards pushing their position though. Before right-wingers were delisted and banned from YouTube, Breadtube didn't and couldn't exist. All the most popular content was their polar opposite, and many of the same grifters who are now Breadtubers were making right wing content. In an open marketplace of ideas their ideas were almost non-starters.
Fair but I wouldn't go so far as to call it right wing content, moreso just old school liberal content that is only considered right wing now due to its opposition to the left, which it used to be a part of. Remember these are people who think someone like fucking Sargon is far right. But I do absolutely agree that the system is largely catered towards them.

The problem with wanting a return to the "open marketplace of ideas" is that's not at all how they want to engage. Its the praxis problem. Praxis is essentially the Marxist term for evangelism. In Christianity, evangelicals would say it's not enough to just be a Christian yourself and live your life in accordance with Christian teachings, and not concerning yourself with anyone else, as most Christians would, instead you have to spread the faith wherever and whenever you can, and infect as much of society as you can with it. Praxis is the exact same but for Marxism. They can't be expected to deal with the marketplace of ideas because that means just talking about the ideas, which is bad praxis. Unless you spread Marxism wherever, and whenever you can, in as much of society and its institutions you can, then your "faith" isn't genuine. You're not a true Marxist unless you spread it. You don't even have to consistently live socialist principles yourself, all that matters is that you spread them. Voosh has been caught out in this by saying that it's okay for socialists to engage in brutal, exploitative capitalism to obtain resources and power because once the revolution comes, they'll be more useful than someone who tried to be a good socialist in their own life, but who obtained very little that would be of use to a revolutionary. It's all about the ends justifying the means to these people. So while the spirit of battling things out in the marketplace of ideas is certainly a desirable and noble one, the Marxists just completely bypass it for the sake of praxis. It's like expecting a jihad i to validate their beliefs in the marketplace of ideas, they won't bother, they'll just pipe bomb you and convert others to their ideology instead.
 

DirtyHegel

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as an Anarchist myself, any "Anarchist" that licks the boot of the CIA is nothing more than a Statist bitch larping ( which tbf is most of the "Anarchist" Left. Also any "Anarchist" Leftists watching, Proudhon supported Private Property and had no problem with Interest and Loans, he wasnt an Ancom and was in the middle between Center and Right on the Economic Scale, actually read him instead of larping when you "Fight the power" by burning down a mom and pop shop ).

This guy made a video about how cancel culture isn't real and mobs are actually a good thing, and the only people who don't like them are the conservative elites. He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse. (which is totally bullshit btw, the mob wasn't considered a valuable contributor to society in Rome) All of this, obviously has little to do with internet cancel culture but he was trying to make some statement about how mobs being unreasonable, unstable, and prone to violence is just a "cultural trope" (his exact words)

No reference to recent, relevant sociological or psychological studies about mob mentality, anonymity as part of a group, de-individuation, ect. Doesn't dare bring up examples of mob mentality or social pressure that would run counter to his argument, such as lynch mobs, pogroms (anti-semitic lynch mobs), or how Nazism was largely able to spread due to social pressure/social contagion. Which is ironic considering in another video he did on Nazis he uses an argument about how open minded people are susceptible to right wing radicalization, which were all familiar with at this point. "Muh youtoob et muh 4chanz are sucking young people down that Nazi rabbit hole." Well guess what dip shit you can't have it both ways. But suddenly as soon as the mob is a leftist one even when it turns ultra violent then they're completely rational and simply expressing the collective will of the people.

Doesn't mention any of the times other Breadtubers even have been stupidly cancelled, a la Contrapoints being called non-binary-phobic when talking about how in ultra woke spaces everyone makes a point of asking her pronouns, when (supposedly) in normal real life situations Contra goes out and people refer to them as a woman without needing to ask. Sorry Hontra I guess you deserved to be cancelled after all. To people like him the mob cannot be overruled cause it is an essential tool in the coming revolution.

So remember farmers, social contagion = REAL when it leads to Nazism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ect. But social contagion = MADE UP RIGHT WING BS when it leads to leftist violence, exploitation of the vulnerable, online cancelling, leftist in group witch hunting, and trans grooming.

And, of course, most of the sources he cited positively were either written by Marxists, or mentioned Marx in some way.
When Authoritarianism doesnt come from Democracy and Mob Rule cause Big Bushy Beard Man said so. He also claims to be an Anarchist as well, but real Anarchists dont recognize any Involuntary Authority, whether mob or state as legitimate. Hes a fucking larper and mob mentalist, Ted was right, the reason he praises Mobs is due to Leftists being weak and unable to see themselves as strong individually. He views himself as weak and only sympathizes with minority rights as he sees them as weak. Seriously, read the Industrial Revolution and its Consequences, Ted was fucking Based and deconstructed Leftism better than any Right Winger to date. They all fit that checklist, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZUlwB4DRwQ&t=294s heres a summary if you are curious.
 

Tranimal Farm

a.k.a. Quixotic Sonichu
kiwifarms.net
as an Anarchist myself, any "Anarchist" that licks the boot of the CIA is nothing more than a Statist bitch larping ( which tbf is most of the "Anarchist" Left. Also any "Anarchist" Leftists watching, Proudhon supported Private Property and had no problem with Interest and Loans, he wasnt an Ancom and was in the middle between Center and Right on the Economic Scale, actually read him instead of larping when you "Fight the power" by burning down a mom and pop shop ).



When Authoritarianism doesnt come from Democracy and Mob Rule cause Big Bushy Beard Man said so. He also claims to be an Anarchist as well, but real Anarchists dont recognize any Involuntary Authority, whether mob or state as legitimate. Hes a fucking larper and mob mentalist, Ted was right, the reason he praises Mobs is due to Leftists being weak and unable to see themselves as strong individually. He views himself as weak and only sympathizes with minority rights as he sees them as weak. Seriously, read the Industrial Revolution and its Consequences, Ted was fucking Based and deconstructed Leftism better than any Right Winger to date. They all fit that checklist, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZUlwB4DRwQ&t=294s heres a summary if you are curious.
Leftist's are pure Nietzschean resentement given physical form
 

DirtyHegel

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Leftist's are pure Nietzschean resentement given physical form
yeah, granted I would argue Authoritarians/Statists in general have an Inferiority complex. Right Wing Authoritarians believe that Authority from Tradition is legitimate, Monarchism is traditional ergo it is Legitimate. Age doesnt make something good, Traditions Merits should be judged rather than simply conforming to Tradition. I am a Southern Nationalist Anarcho-Capitalist myself, but I can criticize the South while still being proud of it, the CSA was bad as it exploited fellow Southerners and the KKK was bad as well for attacking Southerners as well. But I still am proud of the South and my Heritage, I still believe the South should be independent from the Imperialist US, who only was against the South due to wanting to exploit it and nothing more. Conservatives however cant criticize Tradition I notice and have to simp for it at every turn instead of critically thinking about it,
 
One thing Leftists will never address about this, is that if a sane, open-minded person is so easily convinced by right-wing rhetoric doesn't that mean there's something to it? The open expression of ideas should allow the most agreed-upon ideas to succeed. If those are all right-wing ideas, that means they're better and people prefer them.

It's essentially a tacit admission that Leftism is unpopular, and the only way they can get Leftist ideas to become popular is by tricking and propagandizing people.
The people are too stupid to know what’s best for them. That’s why some jack off trust fund son who is now an unelected bureaucrat in Brussels is the one calling the shots
 

Neigh

Apple Paste Enthusiast
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yeah, granted I would argue Authoritarians/Statists in general have an Inferiority complex. Right Wing Authoritarians believe that Authority from Tradition is legitimate, Monarchism is traditional ergo it is Legitimate. Age doesnt make something good, Traditions Merits should be judged rather than simply conforming to Tradition. I am a Southern Nationalist Anarcho-Capitalist myself, but I can criticize the South while still being proud of it, the CSA was bad as it exploited fellow Southerners and the KKK was bad as well for attacking Southerners as well. But I still am proud of the South and my Heritage, I still believe the South should be independent from the Imperialist US, who only was against the South due to wanting to exploit it and nothing more. Conservatives however cant criticize Tradition I notice and have to simp for it at every turn instead of critically thinking about it,
The age of the tradition gives said tradition weight due to its ability to survive and keep the society/ethnicity alive. That's part of the justification.
 
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