Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro -

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 55 6.3%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 216 24.7%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 30 3.4%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 176 20.1%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 398 45.5%

  • Total voters
    875

AnOminous

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Or New Zealands better relationship with Muslim immigrants than its own native Maoris. Or hell he could just bring up the Prime Minister.
This is something I don't get. Why the fuck are these euro and euro-aligned countries so utterly fucking hell bent on importing these savages, and even going out of their way to do it, when they owe them nothing. Meanwhile, they continue to treat the actual natives, who they fucked over in the past and actually have some obligation to treat well, like shit.

Never mind their obligations to their own non-native citizens who are endangered by foreigners who are actively hostile to their way of life and not even secretive about it.
 

FlamingPie

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What? No they'll use a digital feed and cut him off if they don't like what he has to say. Like if he brings up the article from years ago on mosque members being killed overseas in terror attacks that was scrubbed hours after the shooting. Or New Zealands better relationship with Muslim immigrants than its own native Maoris. Or hell he could just bring up the Prime Minister.

Raised as a Mormon, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ardern left the church in 2005 because, she said, it conflicted with her personal views, in particular her support for gay rights.[134][135] In January 2017, Ardern identified as "agnostic".[134]

In early 2008, Ardern was elected as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth,[5] a role which saw her spend time in several countries, including Jordan, Israel, Algeria and China.[19]

Ardern has described herself as a social democrat,[9] a progressive,[10] a republican[58] and a feminist,[123] citing Helen Clark as a political hero,[9][124] and has called capitalism a "blatant failure" due to the extent of homelessness in New Zealand.[125] She advocates a lower rate of immigration, suggesting a drop of around 20,000–30,000. Calling it an "infrastructure issue", she argues, "there hasn't been enough planning about population growth, we haven't necessarily targeted our skill shortages properly".[126] However, she wants to increase the intake of refugees.[127]

Or they can question him on why he chose to go about his crusade in the most exceptional way possible, assuming they actually pull their heads out of their asses.
 

YourMom'sBox

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This is something I don't get. Why the fuck are these euro and euro-aligned countries so utterly fucking hell bent on importing these savages, and even going out of their way to do it, when they owe them nothing. Meanwhile, they continue to treat the actual natives, who they fucked over in the past and actually have some obligation to treat well, like shit.

Never mind their obligations to their own non-native citizens who are endangered by foreigners who are actively hostile to their way of life and not even secretive about it.
THIS. I cannot like this enough.
 

V0dka

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This is something I don't get. Why the fuck are these euro and euro-aligned countries so utterly fucking hell bent on importing these savages, and even going out of their way to do it, when they owe them nothing. Meanwhile, they continue to treat the actual natives, who they fucked over in the past and actually have some obligation to treat well, like shit.

Never mind their obligations to their own non-native citizens who are endangered by foreigners who are actively hostile to their way of life and not even secretive about it.
The rumor going around is that a lot of money is coming from Saudi Arabia and the UAE to push this. Money makes the world go round.

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vertexwindi

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This is something I don't get. Why the fuck are these euro and euro-aligned countries so utterly fucking hell bent on importing these savages, and even going out of their way to do it, when they owe them nothing. Meanwhile, they continue to treat the actual natives, who they fucked over in the past and actually have some obligation to treat well, like shit.

Never mind their obligations to their own non-native citizens who are endangered by foreigners who are actively hostile to their way of life and not even secretive about it.
Importing immigrants and showering them with welfare, social and get-out-of-jail-free cards... Almost sounds like they're trying to import votes like the Democrats with Mexicans.

That Saudi Arabia thing might be true or not, but I don't doubt this shitshow is meant primarily to keep themselves in power.
 

ProgKing of the North

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What? No they'll use a digital feed and cut him off if they don't like what he has to say. Like if he brings up the article from years ago on mosque members being killed overseas in terror attacks that was scrubbed hours after the shooting. Or New Zealands better relationship with Muslim immigrants than its own native Maoris. Or hell he could just bring up the Prime Minister.

Raised as a Mormon, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ardern left the church in 2005 because, she said, it conflicted with her personal views, in particular her support for gay rights.[134][135] In January 2017, Ardern identified as "agnostic".[134]

In early 2008, Ardern was elected as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth,[5] a role which saw her spend time in several countries, including Jordan, Israel, Algeria and China.[19]

Ardern has described herself as a social democrat,[9] a progressive,[10] a republican[58] and a feminist,[123] citing Helen Clark as a political hero,[9][124] and has called capitalism a "blatant failure" due to the extent of homelessness in New Zealand.[125] She advocates a lower rate of immigration, suggesting a drop of around 20,000–30,000. Calling it an "infrastructure issue", she argues, "there hasn't been enough planning about population growth, we haven't necessarily targeted our skill shortages properly".[126] However, she wants to increase the intake of refugees.[127]

I don't see why it matters if he spergs about Ardern, "I massacred 50 people because I don't like the PM" isn't a defense
 

Bonedome

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Also if he pulls some shit like firing his lawyers and representing himself, they'll have a lot of prep to actually have a trial without letting him turn it into a complete circus, with motions to try to stop him from some kinds of theatrical shit he'll otherwise attempt.



That "inane reason" is because it is a fundamental constitutional right to run your own criminal defense if you choose to do so.
I thought they wouldn't let Charles Manson defend himself in court?
 

YourMom'sBox

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This is something I don't get. Why the fuck are these euro and euro-aligned countries so utterly fucking hell bent on importing these savages, and even going out of their way to do it, when they owe them nothing. Meanwhile, they continue to treat the actual natives, who they fucked over in the past and actually have some obligation to treat well, like shit.

Never mind their obligations to their own non-native citizens who are endangered by foreigners who are actively hostile to their way of life and not even secretive about it.
If dare you to question this narrative with other true and honest kiwis you're labelled a white supremacist EVEN though you're advocating for Maori and Pacifica peoples' rights (New Zealand has a duty of care to them as well). The Government is failing miserably (always has) at up holding the Treaty of Waitangi with Maori. We have outrageous stats on child abuse, child poverty, drug addiction, education, suicide, teen pregnancy, unemployment and more often than not Maori and Pacific people are over represented.

And yet Ardern and her government (= LibDems) wants to spread them legs to under-skilled, illiterate, mentally ill people, who are happy to suckle the teat of welfare for the rest of their lives. Labour reduced the rate of immigration of skilled intelligent people in favour of entitled dumb dumbs who have social housing given to them for free, in which the houses are built to a higher standard than your average house, and given new cars.
I wonder how the topic of refugees and immigration will be handled in next election (next year) by both sides.
 

AnOminous

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I thought they wouldn't let Charles Manson defend himself in court?
That was before Faretta. California was an oddball state in not allowing it and probably violated Manson's rights. However, Faretta (decided in 1975) wasn't applied retroactively, so when Manson filed an appeal on this basis, his appeal was denied.
 

V0dka

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People on 8chan are saying he might pull an OJ Simpson off. There convinced that if he can convince the idiot jury he'll somehow get off scot free.
It's unlikely. They jail people for sharing the video or the manifesto. He probably doesn't care about leaving jail, but there's no way they'd want to allow him a platform to spread his views. Because even though he committed 50 murders, he still had some points. Things they obviously don't want to talk about.
 

ProgKing of the North

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It's unlikely. They jail people for sharing the video or the manifesto. He probably doesn't care about leaving jail, but there's no way they'd want to allow him a platform to spread his views. Because even though he committed 50 murders, he still had some points. Things they obviously don't want to talk about.
Pretty sure you can find plenty of people spouting "Muslims bad" without having to rely on a dude that murdered 50 people to spread the message
 

V0dka

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Pretty sure you can find plenty of people spouting "Muslims bad" without having to rely on a dude that murdered 50 people to spread the message
You are here talking about "Muslim bad" right now. Alot of people are. Something that probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't shot 50 people. He's going to get world wide coverage in MSM, and he can say "Muslim Bad". Without getting downvoted into invisibility in some obscure reddit thread.

So they have to downvote him into invisibility in real life.
 

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