Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro -

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 55 5.7%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 236 24.5%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 34 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 186 19.3%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 453 47.0%

  • Total voters
    964

thx1138

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I'm more or less rooting for the Army to take over right now. It's more or less a pure meritocracy and it's already able to run entire countries by itself. The list of nations that the United States Army has taken the leadership role in is very long and it's only fitting that the US Army should take over the United States.
These are the words of someone who has never had to subsist on c-rats.

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could someone explain to my boomer self what the 8chan post thing is about? Did the feds subpoena 8Chan based on comments to or about the shooter, then release evidence that they themselves were making the comments? (The "You posted..." tags on the posts)?
 
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AnOminous

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could someone explain to my boomer self what the 8chan post thing is about? Did the feds subpoena 8Chan based on comments to or about the shooter, then release evidence that they themselves were making the comments? (The "You posted..." tags on the posts)?
>be feds
>join an 8chan discussion
>post inflammatory material to justify a search warrant
>get lots of (You)s
>pat self on back
>get warrant
>search 8chan
>find all the other people are also feds
 

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That may lead to more shit like this. Hell weren't there 2 attacks already inspired by this? This shit is gonna get worse because of him
There will probably be more couch cuck tier attacks instead. Brenton lucked out in the first shooting super hard because the escape doors didn't quite work, his guns didn't jam, and nobody was armed or used improvised weapons.

Expect more shooters to get shot dead the second they start firing by armed security guards, especially in America. Most of the time mass shootings with high kill counts happen at "soft" targets with no security and 30 minute police wait times, or in crowded areas with lots of people. Compared to other forms of terrorism such as car/suicide bombings or vehicle rammings, mass shootings are a pretty weak form of terrorism.

It's been 3 months since his attack and there hasn't been some huge terrorism wave nor has the USA called for gun confiscation squads. If anything his big worldwide influence was speeding up the process of mass internet censorship.
 

nonvir_1984

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There will probably be more couch cuck tier attacks instead. Brenton lucked out in the first shooting super hard because the escape doors didn't quite work, his guns didn't jam, and nobody was armed or used improvised weapons.

Expect more shooters to get shot dead the second they start firing by armed security guards, especially in America. Most of the time mass shootings with high kill counts happen at "soft" targets with no security and 30 minute police wait times, or in crowded areas with lots of people. Compared to other forms of terrorism such as car/suicide bombings or vehicle rammings, mass shootings are a pretty weak form of terrorism.

It's been 3 months since his attack and there hasn't been some huge terrorism wave nor has the USA called for gun confiscation squads. If anything his big worldwide influence was speeding up the process of mass internet censorship.
OK. Tin foil hat on. The full sperg.
Yeah. All that's happened is
- various basement dwellers have said he's their hero - and promptly get arrested;
- government have used it as an excuse to censor the internet, fuck up democracy and generally go the full Orwell in a bunch of countries. They have used it as an excuse to let loose their authoritarian tendencies fantasies;
- MSM has gone the full pogrom against anything right of center (with one exception, that I will come to), while totally ignoring the left, creeping sharia and jihadism.
- turned any criticism into "hate speech" or a phobia.
- the exception on the right is neo-liberalism, the whole Any Rand lunatic right stuff. They have infiltrated governments all over and are really happy cause they can continue to fuck over countries and enrich their backers and set up the neo-liberal law of the jungle paradise.
We need to remember that even if the authorities had all the powers they subsequently gave themselves they still would not prevent a Christchurch. One reason is that if some fool makes a direct threat, the authorities can get off their asses and grab them, but if it is more oblique, like donating money or saying some right wing nutter is their emperor (as Tarrant did), or hanging out with a bunch of other nutters with lots of firearms (as Tarrant did nome of the time) then the authorities are totally oblivious.
Christchurch is being used as an excuse to reassert control.
 

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Please post screencaps of the second shooter.
Or provide a timestamp in the video and I'll put it up. If you are talking about the guy outside along the fence as BT was leaving, that has been gone over. He fired at him and missed. The guy was with a woman, and they found cover behind a post of the fence. The woman was able to get through the bars and out onto the sidewalk, but the man wasn't. Turns out, that was the woman's undoing. She was the one begging on the street he shot again and then possibly drove over.
 

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Didn't someone chase him away at the second mosque or am I remembering wrong (I was kinda drunk that night)?
Tarrant's Second Mosque aka some ramshackle little house. He would have had to contend with nothing but close quarters there, unlike the wide open spaces of Tarrant's First Mosque. It would have been smart to use the explosives there, then pick off the flees.

this video sums it up pretty well




Honestly all I care about is what the soundtrack was. Remove Kebab and Gas Gas Gas. I bet he had some Death Grips playing at some point.
Sources familiar with his thinking are reporting that it was Perry Como's "Magic Moments".

Declining birth rate IIRC. Average age for a Britbong/Euro woman to marry (assuming they aren't white trash) is mid 30s with median age hitting 40s. People are not marrying and having kids, so they decide to import people who will bump up population growth. Of course, being the big brained individuals, instead of importing people who have a history of integrating well with Western societies like Asians/Pajeets, they import Africans and Arabs. Good for having tonnes of kids, useless/detrimental for everything else.
In the US there has been something like 50+ years of encouraging and scheming to lower birth rates (see the Jaffe memo). I would be surprised if it were any different in the UK. Okay, sounds reasonable enough, overpopulation and whatnot. Then they import shit-tier people in what they officially label 'replacement migration', a practice that has been going on for at least 25 years. No longer does that smack of innocence whatsoever.

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The unsealing of an application for a search warrant by the federal government on 8chan’s servers has unintentionally revealed that a federal agent has been trolling the site and attempting to redirect the users’ conspiracy theories against the Russian government
 

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To the surprise of absolutely no one. Anyone who visits any chan board know feds are watching or posting even the IDF have a unit who do this as a full time thing.
 

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I think it's kind of hilarious that the FBI is trying to introduce bog-standard CNN-style Russophobia into the white supremacist scene.

This could mean one of two things:

(a) That agent is deliberately doing one of the dumbest things I could imagine and getting paid for it.

(b) His boss is ordering him to do it which makes the FBI's upper echelons even dumber than the guy posting on /pol/
 

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I think it's kind of hilarious that the FBI is trying to introduce bog-standard CNN-style Russophobia into the white supremacist scene.

This could mean one of two things:

(a) That agent is deliberately doing one of the dumbest things I could imagine and getting paid for it.

(b) His boss is ordering him to do it which makes the FBI's upper echelons even dumber than the guy posting on /pol/
even if the Russians had been involved, the alt righters would have still supported it and gone on at length about Based Slavs. As long as kebab is being removed, I'm sure they are not very picky about who is doing the removal
 

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I think it's kind of hilarious that the FBI is trying to introduce bog-standard CNN-style Russophobia into the white supremacist scene.
And being a complete idiot and not understanding the culture in the least, the result will be anyone remotely critical of Russia is going to be called a fed and probably banned on sight on 8/pol/
 

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I think it's kind of hilarious that the FBI is trying to introduce bog-standard CNN-style Russophobia into the white supremacist scene.

This could mean one of two things:

(a) That agent is deliberately doing one of the dumbest things I could imagine and getting paid for it.

(b) His boss is ordering him to do it which makes the FBI's upper echelons even dumber than the guy posting on /pol/
It's the FBI, so could be both.
 

V0dka

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It's been 3 months since his attack and there hasn't been some huge terrorism wave nor has the USA called for gun confiscation squads. If anything his big worldwide influence was speeding up the process of mass internet censorship.
Well he is an accelerationist, either people do something, or they turn over and die.
 

nonvir_1984

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When you look at what they are complaining about, and what they want, it is only going to fuel anti-Muslim sentiment in some quarters.

Christchurch Victims Say New Zealand Has Fallen Short of Lofty Promises

By Charlotte Graham-McLay
June 20, 2019
CHRISTCHURCH, New Zealand — Temel Atacocugu is fed up. Forced to spend most days on the couch in his Christchurch home, he is beginning a long recovery from the nine gunshot wounds he suffered in March when a terrorist fired on Muslim worshipers in this New Zealand city.
Again and again, Mr. Atacocugu has asked when New Zealand’s immigration agency will allow his mother and nephew to join him in Christchurch from Turkey. He needs them to help care for him as he adjusts to his new life. But a month has passed since their visa applications were filed, and no answer has come.
Robbed of what he loves to do most — hiking, fishing, sports, working at his kebab shop — he has started to feel depressed and desperately lonely. “This is really hurting me,” said Mr. Atacocugu, who has lived in the country for a decade and is a citizen. “I am a New Zealander, too.”
Mr. Atacocugu is one of a number of victims of the attacks — in addition to the 51 people killed, more than 40 were injured, some permanently — who say that the New Zealand government has not met the high bar it set in helping them piece their lives back together.
Three days after the March 15 attacks, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern delivered an emotional speech to Parliament emphasizing the government’s obligation to those affected. “We feel a huge duty of care to them,” she said. “We have so much we feel the need to say and to do.”
Three days after that, she moved to ban the sort of semiautomatic weapons that were used in the Christchurch slaughter.
Those words and actions led to global praise for the New Zealand government for what was seen as a swift and compassionate response to the massacre. They also raised expectations among the victims — an optimism they say is now evaporating in the face of government bureaucracy.
Like Mr. Atacocugu, 43, many say New Zealand’s immigration system is struggling to respond to victims’ wishes to bring their relatives to the country to provide physical and emotional support.

In April, the government announced what it called a “significant” offer of permanent resident visas to victims’ and survivors’ immediate relatives, but advocates say the rules governing who qualifies are too narrow.
Victims have also criticized what they call an opaque process for allocating funds raised for the survivors and the families of the dead. The money is being distributed by an organization called Victim Support, which offered its services after the attacks. Some survivors have said that the amounts of money they have received have been smaller than expected, and that the government should have added to the pot.
Perhaps most frustrating is the sense among some survivors, including Mr. Atacocugu, that officials simply do not understand the magnitude of the challenges they face: the trauma, the injuries, the inability to financially support themselves.
“For the first time, I started to be really angry last night,” he said one day last week, recalling a conversation with the government employee assigned to help him, who, while well-meaning, did not have the answers he needed.
In the meantime, Mr. Atacocugu is facing a wait of almost a year until the man accused of shooting him is brought to trial. At a court appearance by the defendant, Brenton H. Tarrant, in April, Mr. Atacocugu was brought into the public gallery in a wheelchair, ashen and blank-faced. He was back in court last Friday, walking with a crutch, as Mr. Tarrant pleaded not guilty to 92 counts, including murder and terrorism.
The New Zealand government has taken a variety of actions to help the victims and families of the dead. The government has assigned case managers to each of those affected, and it has covered funeral costs for those killed. Police officers are offering driving lessons to women whose husbands died. And a state-funded program is paying 80 percent of the previous earnings of those who were physically injured.
(This, however, has also been a point of contention: Some survivors who were not wounded and do not qualify for the money say they are too mentally traumatized to work and need financial assistance.)
Part of the problem is that the government, which has never before dealt with such an event in New Zealand’s largely peaceful history, has not been specific about its long-term plans for ensuring the families’ welfare.
Kate Gilmore, the United Nations deputy high commissioner for human rights, who visited Christchurch in April, said New Zealand’s leadership “would stand out for some time” on the world stage. But she questioned the government’s decision to prioritize gun reform and an inquiry into possible intelligence failures before making it clear to the families how they would be cared for.
“It’s fantastic to have this sense of ‘we won’t hate, we’ll love,’ but how is that delivering materially for the survivors?” Ms. Gilmore said.
Mr. Atacocugu, who was shot in the jaw, one arm, both legs and his hips, has been told by his doctors that he can expect a physical recovery of three to five years, and an unknown number of surgeries.
The government has provided him with compensation under the state-funded program and taxis to take him to medical appointments. But he is struggling to service the loan on his kebab business.
His sister, who arrived from Turkey on March 23, has provided 24-hour care for him. She left her own work and family, and Mr. Atacocugu is trying to get answers on whether the government will compensate her, given that it would need to provide him with paid care otherwise.
It would help, Mr. Atacocugu said, to see his mother, as well as his nephew — who can drive, and could take him fishing, or “just to smell the fresh air,” he said.
Megan Woods, the lawmaker coordinating the government’s response to the attacks, said in a statement that the prospect of victims navigating “a thicket of different government agencies” was why she had advocated the assignment of “individual case managers to work with each of the affected families.” The government declined to comment beyond the statement.
The case managers have helped, some victims said, but the workers can do only so much in the face of systemic obstacles.
While the government moved quickly to offer permanent resident visas to victims’ and survivors’ immediate relatives, Zhiyan Basharati, a community organizer, said at least half of those affected wanted to bring relatives who did not fit the criteria.
“The categories are very narrow, and every person comes with a story,” she said. “If you’re disabled because of the shooting and your brother’s come here to help you, your brother has a family, too.”
Many of the affected families have also questioned the method by which the more than $7 million raised from public donations is being distributed.
Those hurt at the mosques, and the families of those who died, have received three lump sum payments. But Victim Support only recently started to consult those affected about how the funds should be divided up and who should get what. One payment is left to be distributed.
Kenneth R. Feinberg, a lawyer who has managed many of the United States’ highest-profile disaster funds since 9/11, said the problems were largely avoidable.
He said speed, transparency and communication were crucial to making victims feel heard. But New Zealand, unlike the United States after recent disasters, has not publicly named a single person to be responsible for making compensation decisions and ensuring that those priorities are met.
Abdul Aziz, who is originally from Afghanistan, is among the survivors of the attacks who said transparency had been missing in New Zealand.
“These people sitting back in Auckland, or Wellington, they didn’t see nothing, they didn’t go through anything themselves,” said Mr. Aziz, referring to officials in the capital and the largest city. “And now they’re deciding for the victims who’s the real victims and who is not real victims.”

Mr. Aziz was not shot in the attacks, but he was credited with driving the gunman away from the Linwood mosque by throwing one of the terrorist’s weapons into the windshield of his car. He had drawn the gunman back toward the parking lot while his four sons screamed for him inside the mosque.
“I sleep two, three hours a day since the incident,” he said. But he has received a small fraction of the compensation that those with physical injuries have received because he did not suffer any.
Mr. Atacocugu, for his part, said he did not want to stay in Christchurch long term. He wants to purchase a small property somewhere quiet. He had hoped that the government’s promises might extend to helping the victims buy their first homes.
“I’ve had enough; I don’t want this anymore. I’m so tired,” he said. “Mentally I’m so tired, and physically. I hope one day I can start a peaceful life again.”
 

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Jesus fuck why would you give them permanentresidence for getting shot, being a good bullet sponge isn't a skill useful in modern society. Giving it to their relatives is even more retarded, but after encountering few kiwis online I have to say they have the government they deserve.

As in, there are few creatures more pathetic and despicable than the sheepfucking variety of anglo.
 
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