Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro -

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 56 6.3%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 218 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 30 3.4%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 179 20.0%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 410 45.9%

  • Total voters
    893

Datiko

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Having actually watched the video, it's striking how much less violent real violence is than TV and movie violence. It's kind of hard to describe.
Nah real violence is pretty tame. Especially gun violence. Doesn't make for exciting tv. The grossest thing I've seen is a suicide off a high rise and even that was less traumatizing than a movie like saw.
 

Slick Willy

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Memoryhole it? Maybe the video sure, but the media and politicians want you to know that 30 muslims were killed by a racist white man and that's why more should be let in, just like how that synagogue shooting seemed to get intense airtime for a while.
Because, of course, the answer is clearly to mix two vastly different ideologies: both of which are incompatible with each other and have been warring with each other ever since the last millennium started.
 

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Wait, ain't he a lone wolf working on this? Who are those other people they are arresting?
He either wasn't alone and just didn't say anything (one theory being that he didn't say anything due to wanting to give the impression that he caused an anti-muslim uprising) or he inspired some IMMEDIATE copycat killers, or third, they got arrested a few people for loitering or whatnot.

It's too early to tell and since the authorities are doing the government equivalent of DFE about this, we'll never know.

Because, of course, the answer is clearly to mix two vastly different ideologies: both of which are incompatible with each other and have been warring with each other ever since the last millennium started.
The thing is, the left just does not get this. They genuinely think Muslims are just like the ol' Christians they totally pwned with facts and logic on Youtube back in the day. The Muslims will come in, their kids will be perfectly normal atheist New Zealand / British / American citizens, and outside of a bunch of old fogies who still believe in their silly little holy book, things will be GREAT! And we'll get AMAZING KEBAB AND CURRY RESTAURANTS, TOO! It's win win, right?!

Well, no. No it's not. Because you can go into certain neighborhoods in Sweden and you WILL be attacked by Islamist gangs. And that's if you're lucky. You can go into certain areas in the UK and they will openly laugh at the fact that they're raping British and Sikh children and the left is too afraid of being called bad names to do anything about it.

Some of these migrants are integrating. Slowly. But some aren't. And that's bad.
 

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Some of these migrants are integrating. Slowly. But some aren't. And that's bad.
Well there aren't any social integration programs. In Australia there was a policy in the 1950's which is today called "The White Australia Policy" when in fact it was a social integration and naturalization test. (Now scrapped) Chinese were already integrated into society due to the immgration during the gold rush earlier in Australias history. The policy made sure only people from a cultural background that was friendly to the current societal norms of the time were allowed in. It's why Greeks, Italians, Yugoslavs, and Turks have been part of Australias culture for 50-100 years.

But most people today never really look intoit. They assume if you aren't letting EVERYONE in to a country no matter what values they hold, they are just redneck racists.
 
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Well there aren't any social integration programs. In Australia there was a policy in the 1950's which is today called "The White Australia Policy" when in fact it was a social integration and naturalization test. (Now scrapped) Chinese were already integrated into society due to the immgration during the gold rush earlier in Australias history. The policy made sure only people from a cultural background that was friendly to the current societal norms of the time were allowed in. It's why Greeks, Italians, Yugoslavs, and Turks have been part of Australias culture for 50-100 years.

But most people today never really look intoit. They assume if you aren't letting EVERYONE in to a country no matter what values they hold, they are just redneck racists.
Nowadays they are teaching the natives how to adapt to their new foreign friends.
Reporting rape by our unfortunate new friends is a sign of white supremacy and racism.
 

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They were probably just rounding up anyone associated/related to the shooter in a panic to make it seem like they were doing something.
what about that video of the two guys with ARs going into a mosque that came out earlier? if there was a single shooter the guy went to another place shot it up with 0 police interference
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1raA76FSRo4

Aydin has a video on it. Her take is that this is one of three things:

  1. Mental Illness. Basically he spent too much time on Pol and snapped.
  2. Genuine Accelerationist. He wants to push us into an ideological war with Islam.
  3. False flag. Him calling out PewDiePie (biggest threat to the media) and Candace Owens (biggest threat to the Dems with her Blexit) are her red flags there. The theory being that the guy is an insane... leftist, who wants to cause a backlash against the right.

She pointed out that the left hasn't shut up about the fat woman dying at Charlottesville since it happened, despite there being a video confession that an Antifa professor caused the incident. The left -- in NZ, in the US, in the UK, EVERYWHERE -- is going to use this as a weapon to pass anything and everything they want, everywhere, for the next few years, no matter how unrelated.

And expect censorship. Boy howdy. 4chan, 8ch, The Farms, "Every Youtuber Right of Marx..." all will be censored. Heavily so. And beyond just speech, she thinks Trump will cave and start pushing for Gun Control over it.
 

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Anyone know how to express that condemnation to this event without looking like acting in bad faith? I don't like what happened here, especially when this event hits so much closer since I recognize so much of the icons he used. But I feel like the only way people will view my reaction as genuine is if I condemn those icons and memes as well, which I don't want to do. I legitimately believe that this event would be something my friends would mention and it might be a point of severance if I don't appear to be genuine. We've tolerated our political beliefs so long because we all knew it wasn't important and we mutually agreed none of us are extreme in our view. But I feel like the reaction I have and what everyone else have is going to be extreme just by how shocking it is. Anyone know how to handle a discussion like this among people I know? I don't want them to get the wrong idea.
 

Emperor Julian

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I think the thing which always fascinates me is how the political mass shooters manage to persuade themselves they're the hero of their own little story an not just an exceptional individual mowing down people who can't defend themselves.

The frustrating thing is the prententious shit won't even really face any meaningful consequances because jail will feed into his dumb fantasies about being a brave race warrior put down by the system rather than a dipshit whose killed 49 people, ruined countless lives and made things worst for everyone in general in the political fallout to satisfy his own narcisism.
I fucking hate these people.
 
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