Disaster Brexit: "Technical terms" agreed - Chequers minus, as feared, or Brexit in name only.

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I like how the Uk parlament seems to regularly push for a "Any deal is better than no deal" motion, which sort of means that they take away any agency and initiative the Uk might have in making a deal... not like it matters, the current deal won't be renegotiated and anyone who thinks the UK is in a position to even try should take a long hard look on the last 3 years and how much was achieved there.
It could have been achieved if May hadn't decided to cuck out, take No Deal off the table, and put Remainers in charge of the negotiations. The thing about No Deal is that it's the nuclear option, and once you back down from that, you throw away your leverage. If the UK will take any deal over no deal, why shouldn't the EU hold out until they get a deal that involves a gimp suit and a dragon dildo collection? What's the UK gonna do, flip the table and walk away?
 

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It could have been achieved if May hadn't decided to cuck out, take No Deal off the table, and put Remainers in charge of the negotiations. The thing about No Deal is that it's the nuclear option, and once you back down from that, you throw away your leverage. If the UK will take any deal over no deal, why shouldn't the EU hold out until they get a deal that involves a gimp suit and a dragon dildo collection? What's the UK gonna do, flip the table and walk away?
Precisely, they communicate that they pretty much will accept any deal (except the one they got now, for some reason) and then wonder why their position for any kind of negotiation is so poor.
 

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people like to meme about civil war and shit, but i think throwing the legitimate head of government in prison in order to prevent him from carrying out what the referendum demanded could actually spark violent unrest.
>violent unrest
>U.K.
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You have a better chance of hitting the lottery while being attacked by a shark. Or leaving the E.U. in a timely fashion.

Precisely, they communicate that they pretty much will accept any deal (except the one they got now, for some reason) and then wonder why their position for any kind of negotiation is so poor.
It's almost like they're playing dumb to try to stall for as long as they think it'll take to be able to say "well it's been so long are we still sure we want to do this guys?" without ending up out of office.
 
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It could have been achieved if May hadn't decided to cuck out, take No Deal off the table, and put Remainers in charge of the negotiations. The thing about No Deal is that it's the nuclear option, and once you back down from that, you throw away your leverage. If the UK will take any deal over no deal, why shouldn't the EU hold out until they get a deal that involves a gimp suit and a dragon dildo collection? What's the UK gonna do, flip the table and walk away?
That's all true, if I thought Boris & co had any interest in good faith negotiations with the EU to get a deal but I actually don't believe that to be the case. There are people who will gain from a no deal but it certainly won't be the working classes that's for sure.
 

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I wonder if, now that the DUP supply and confidence deal is defunct, Rees-Mogg et al might forget their previous dedication to the union and get behind a N.Ireland only backstop.
 

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Well I'm back with more retardedness of r/ukpolitics!
They really thought Nigel Farage was/is joking? After all this time? From the outside looking in, it was pretty apparent that he wants out, seeing how his Euroskepticism predates the immigration crisis, the Lisbon Treaty and even the Euro as a currency. But I guess even that was too ambiguous for some people?
 
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Speaking of Guido, Leo Varadkar, the Irish PM, is saying that Brexit needs to happen on 31 October 2019:

https://order-order.com/2019/09/09/varadkar-uk-leaving-leave-31st-october/

"We would like to see this dealt with," he says. I can't disagree. Remainers like to say that the economy is wonky "because of Brexit," but the real cause of the wonkiness is the uncertainty around it. If we "crashed out without a deal," there would probably be short to medium term disruption and uncertainty because I don't think our government's done enough to prepare and hasn't communicated its preparations well. But once that stabilised, and it would as the "new normal" gets used to, everything would be trundling along regardless.

"Those stupid rubes are too dumb to listen to us smart people. They're not "equipped" to recognize our superior intelligence nor think for themselves so they get duped by right wing charlatans like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage."

The audacity and delusion of these people is staggering.
If you can't put forward your views in a way that normies can understand, you deserve to lose.
 

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Please can this disgrace of a speaker fuck right off. Never have I seen a speaker that is so flagrant with his biases.
 

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Absolutely nobody in power actually wants to leave, though. They never did, which is why even the people supposedly championing the Leave cause are acting like utter lunatics who would struggle to fix a straw if it was bent. This entire situation is a Springtime for Hitler scenario in real life.
You know it's shit like this that makes people say that maybe a dictatorship wouldn't be so bad.
Because if the choice is between being ruled by some latte sipping champagne socialist faggots in Northern Virginia/Islington or Caesar most people will choose Caesar.
At least Caesar took care of his soldiers and the plebs.
The inhabitants of the managerial state wouldn't cross the street to piss on your heart if it caught fire.
 

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Don't know much about UK law but what happens if BJ just says suck my dick and does nothing? A bunch of whining? What power do they actually have?
 

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At this point I’d support a second referendum so long as the only options were “no deal” and “May’s deal”, if that would be enough to finally get us out.

Three years of this has left me with severe Brexit fatigue
 
At this point I’d support a second referendum so long as the only options were “no deal” and “May’s deal”, if that would be enough to finally get us out.

Three years of this has left me with severe Brexit fatigue
Now you know that isn't the point of a second referendum, they want a second vote so they can reverse brexit, they are embracing the Full EU voting cycle of "We are gonna vote on it over and over again till you vote the way we want."
 

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A jail cell if you ask certain remain leaning lawyers, former labour attorney generals.
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These guys are about as reliable as Kier Starmer would be on the matter of what would happen if Boris announced he would refuse. They all seem to be Labour or Lib-Dem politicians + lawyers and arch-remainers. Anything most of them say is subject to doubt. We have a litany of cases of Remain QCs like Jolyon claiming that the government cannot possibly do something, and then getting btfo when they take it to court, and btfo'd badly.

Also, I would really like to see the police try to arrest the sitting PM because he refused to go to a supranational governing body and did as they commanded. Pretty sure Johnson has a large enough can of worms to absolutely shit all over the vast majority of MPs in scandal and criminal activity if they did try to do that.
 
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