Disaster Brexit: "Technical terms" agreed - Chequers minus, as feared, or Brexit in name only.

Slimy Time

Rape Face #3
kiwifarms.net
One of the commentators on ConHome made an interesting point. 163 MPs are on the government payroll and need to vote for May. So she only picked up three votes in favour up against 117 against. And keeping her in power means her deal will be voted on in parliament where it will be defeated. And then Labour will call a confidence vote.

https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2018/12/stalemate.html

View attachment 613363
She's a lame duck at this junction. 1/3rd of her MPs wanted her gone, the DUP are likely pulling support, and everyone else in the House will vote against her. Forgetting Brexit for a moment, how on earth does she expect to pass ANY legislation? Even if the Chief Whip calls a 3 line whip, that won't mean much if 1/4th or 1/3rd decide not to follow.

She's also said that she's not going to run as PM for the next election, but has not told people when she will step down before 2021. Assuming that the House doesn't call a vote of no confidence (which will trigger a GE, certainly won by Labour), we may be stuck with this dumb bitch for many years, unable to pass any legislation.

She embodies the worst parts of Margaret Thatcher - The unbending will to change her mind, the unwillingness to listen to her colleagues when they tell her this is a shit idea, and stacking her cabinet with yes men. Difference, Thatcher got shit done before she got the boot, this bitch has done sweet fuck all during her premiership. One of the worst PMs we have had in a while, and thats saying a lot, given the shower of shit we had before.
 

Gustav Schuchardt

kiwifarms.net
She embodies the worst parts of Margaret Thatcher - The unbending will to change her mind, the unwillingness to listen to her colleagues when they tell her this is a shit idea, and stacking her cabinet with yes men. Difference, Thatcher got shit done before she got the boot, this bitch has done sweet fuck all during her premiership. One of the worst PMs we have had in a while, and thats saying a lot, given the shower of shit we had before.
Let's just remember her for the Lancaster House speech. In fact if she'd done what she said then rather than the exact opposite she'd have been a great PM.
 

Ponderous Pillock

Welcome to Triple T, Tards, Troons and Trolls!
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Let's just remember her for the Lancaster House speech. In fact if she'd done what she said then rather than the exact opposite she'd have been a great PM.
The problem is she's frit. She was evidently horrified by DD's planned Brexit (being achingly burecratic and british by going through every scrap of paper the EU has ever signed with a third party and going "Can we have that? Can we? Can we?") which would've been Brexity enough for the vast majority of leavers and remainy enough that, aside from a few grumbles, there'd be enough similarities to keep them happy.

No backstop bollocks, no real need to achingly check things as they'd be on mutual recognition or EU standards anyway and cameras where needed to do the majority of customs checks (as actual customs checks are predominantly done these days anyway).

Instead she got scared, and tossed all that out while putting her own ideas in.

Honestly, we'll need a new party rising to put their feet back to the fire.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: CWCissey

Gustav Schuchardt

kiwifarms.net
Honestly, we'll need a new party rising to put their feet back to the fire.
I'm voting UKIP, regardless of their 'unelectability'. The Tory party have shit the bed by not getting rid of May.

I do like Ester McVeigh though

https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2018/12/esther-mcvey-how-to-deliver-brexit-from-here-we-must-prepare-properly-for-no-deal.html

The Prime Minister must now do what she should have done when it was clear that the deal she presented to Cabinet did not honour the outcome of the referendum, failed to secure our long term economic independence and risked missing the huge opportunities of leaving the constraints of the European Union.

She must use the clear domestic concerns about the agreement to push for two fundamental changes

  • That the backstop is ultimately unacceptable and must be removed and,
  • That the £39 billion must be linked to a future trade agreement.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Lemmingwise

Norvic

too gay to lift
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Trololololol.

Seems like the ERG hardliners are set to vote down May MkII, Electric Boogaloo. May's trying to sell it using the time honoured "eat your peas or you don't get any pudding" strategy, and she's probably right. If this gets voted down, the europhile Tories plus the Lib. Dems and Labour will probably come to a compromise where they'll vote for the deal in exchange for putting it to a second referendum, and then there'll probably be no Brexit at all and our long national nightmare will be over. (:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:)
 

RomanesEuntDomus

May contain nuts.
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Trololololol.

Seems like the ERG hardliners are set to vote down May MkII, Electric Boogaloo. May's trying to sell it using the time honoured "eat your peas or you don't get any pudding" strategy, and she's probably right. If this gets voted down, the europhile Tories plus the Lib. Dems and Labour will probably come to a compromise where they'll vote for the deal in exchange for putting it to a second referendum, and then there'll probably be no Brexit at all and our long national nightmare will be over. (:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:)
Isn't a second referendum utterly impossible due to time constraints?
Or is the plan to postpone the actual Brexit taking effect in favor of "more preparation" and suddenly, there's another Referendum scheduled in the meantime?
 

Inquisitor_BadAss

Caturday Karen
kiwifarms.net
Isn't a second referendum utterly impossible due to time constraints?
Or is the plan to postpone the actual Brexit taking effect in favor of "more preparation" and suddenly, there's another Referendum scheduled in the meantime?
There is still the vote weather to extend article 50 if they vote against this and vote against no deal. They have plenty time to get the result they really wanted, these negotiations should have been the easiest thing in the world. Most if not all business and other regulations match the eu, this trade deal could have been worked out in a couple months with a component negotiator on either side.
 

Racist Trash

Fucking Lidl doesn't have any Custard Creams.
kiwifarms.net
There is still the vote weather to extend article 50 if they vote against this and vote against no deal. They have plenty time to get the result they really wanted, these negotiations should have been the easiest thing in the world. Most if not all business and other regulations match the eu, this trade deal could have been worked out in a couple months with a component negotiator on either side.

Oh boy can't wait for them to vote to extend article 50 as the EU has said if it gets extended they want more money in the divorce bill and then we get to have another fucking referendum and watch as the economy is damaged further by uncertainty and if they decide to ignore the vote the damage is already done and the EU is going to be forever pissy and demand more for time wasted.

Or who knows lets just have a referendum every year or so and then another referendum on whether to overturn the previous five referendums that were about what kind of referendums people want for Brexit and we can all live in a world where the sky is perpetually falling.
 

Just Some Other Guy

kiwifarms.net
Oh boy can't wait for them to vote to extend article 50 as the EU has said if it gets extended they want more money in the divorce bill and then we get to have another fucking referendum and watch as the economy is damaged further by uncertainty and if they decide to ignore the vote the damage is already done and the EU is going to be forever pissy and demand more for time wasted.

Or who knows lets just have a referendum every year or so and then another referendum on whether to overturn the previous five referendums that were about what kind of referendums people want for Brexit and we can all live in a world where the sky is perpetually falling.
Maybe you guys should revolt or something? Idk, looks like the French can find a spine.
 

Slimy Time

Rape Face #3
kiwifarms.net
Isn't a second referendum utterly impossible due to time constraints?
Or is the plan to postpone the actual Brexit taking effect in favor of "more preparation" and suddenly, there's another Referendum scheduled in the meantime?
It's so blatant, everyone can see it. Remainers are chomping at the bit hoping this will happen. These faggots will do anything to make sure they get what they want.

Maybe you guys should revolt or something? Idk, looks like the French can find a spine.
The government has done a very good job of making everyone tired of hearing about Brexit. Knowing how lazy and apathetic the population is to matters regarding the ever encroaching government of their rights of privacy and freedom of speech, they won't do anything in the event that they are stabbed in the back. The Brits should start taking notes from the French for once, or dare I say from their Irish cousins if they want this nonsense to stop.

Pretty sure if they start dragging scummy MPs out of their homes and Jo Coxing them, suddenly their tune will change. They won't though, they might turn up for a protest for a day or two, then go home and sleep it off, comfortable that the "showed the government" who is boss.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Unog

Just Some Other Guy

kiwifarms.net
It's so blatant, everyone can see it. Remainers are chomping at the bit hoping this will happen. These faggots will do anything to make sure they get what they want.


The government has done a very good job of making everyone tired of hearing about Brexit. Knowing how lazy and apathetic the population is to matters regarding the ever encroaching government of their rights of privacy and freedom of speech, they won't do anything in the event that they are stabbed in the back. The Brits should start taking notes from the French for once, or dare I say from their Irish cousins if they want this nonsense to stop.

Pretty sure if they start dragging scummy MPs out of their homes and Jo Coxing them, suddenly their tune will change. They won't though, they might turn up for a protest for a day or two, then go home and sleep it off, comfortable that the "showed the government" who is boss.
Yeah, it was mostly a rhetorical statement. The guys who did say "fuck this" are over here :biggrin:
 

Ponderous Pillock

Welcome to Triple T, Tards, Troons and Trolls!
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Oh boy can't wait for them to vote to extend article 50 as the EU has said if it gets extended they want more money in the divorce bill and then we get to have another fucking referendum and watch as the economy is damaged further by uncertainty and if they decide to ignore the vote the damage is already done and the EU is going to be forever pissy and demand more for time wasted.

Or who knows lets just have a referendum every year or so and then another referendum on whether to overturn the previous five referendums that were about what kind of referendums people want for Brexit and we can all live in a world where the sky is perpetually falling.
Fun factoid: Any A50 extension has to be agreed to by all 28 members. So the UK can vote for whatever it likes but if any member just says "nope" that's it. No deal.

Fun Factoid 2: The border that the Irish and remaniac press says is a fantasy, doesn't exist and is a complete unicorn so please keep Northern Ireland inside the EU, effectively annexing it? Yeah, the French fucking built one:


GOSH. Almost like this whole Northern Ireland thing is the blatantly fucking insulting landgrab in violation of the Good Friday agreement it always fucking was.

As it presently stands. A number of people have started to sound the warning bells that the Tories adopting a pro-Brexit stance is what killed populism in the UK stone dead. Once they began listening UKIP support haemorrhaged and a lot of semi-lost votes have loaned themselves to the Tories to ensure Brexit could happen.

Now, what happens when you start ignoring the people's will and doing so rather blatantly?

Well, those voters get angry and they go vote elsewhere.

And Farage has his new party starting to be built ready to go on the offensive and hoover up all those votes.

After this horrific negotiation, I really am relishing the coming No Deal shenanigans. Mostly because it's going to fuck up Ireland more than any other nation. Which will teach them for not playing nice.
 

Ginger Piglet

Fictional Manhunt Survivor
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Fun factoid: Any A50 extension has to be agreed to by all 28 members. So the UK can vote for whatever it likes but if any member just says "nope" that's it. No deal.

Fun Factoid 2: The border that the Irish and remaniac press says is a fantasy, doesn't exist and is a complete unicorn so please keep Northern Ireland inside the EU, effectively annexing it? Yeah, the French fucking built one:


GOSH. Almost like this whole Northern Ireland thing is the blatantly fucking insulting landgrab in violation of the Good Friday agreement it always fucking was.

As it presently stands. A number of people have started to sound the warning bells that the Tories adopting a pro-Brexit stance is what killed populism in the UK stone dead. Once they began listening UKIP support haemorrhaged and a lot of semi-lost votes have loaned themselves to the Tories to ensure Brexit could happen.

Now, what happens when you start ignoring the people's will and doing so rather blatantly?

Well, those voters get angry and they go vote elsewhere.

And Farage has his new party starting to be built ready to go on the offensive and hoover up all those votes.

After this horrific negotiation, I really am relishing the coming No Deal shenanigans. Mostly because it's going to fuck up Ireland more than any other nation. Which will teach them for not playing nice.
Yes indeed. I'm looking forward to "crashing out without a deal" because when the world doesn't end, the salt and screeching from remainiacs will be excellent.

Unfortunately, I fear the fix is in and somehow there'll be a unilateral withdrawal of Article 50 at the last moment which, conveniently, the ECJ has said can be done.

Why we don't just go full Henry VIII and dissolve the European Union's properties and operations here I don't know. After all, he crashed us out of the Catholic Church without a deal and despite some minor disruption it turned out to be the right decision because we avoided the fallout from the French Wars of Religion and so forth. We also took back control of our laws because for once they were all made here rather than partly by an unaccountable bureaucracy in Rome.
 

Ponderous Pillock

Welcome to Triple T, Tards, Troons and Trolls!
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
What's the over/under on any/all of V4 vetoing just for the lulz?
Slim to none. The French are more likely to veto any extension, and it will not be politically wise to extend A50 with it's £1bn a month price tag for the UK. As desperate as the remaniacs are in parliament are to take "no deal" off the table, a lot more matters are in place than most people realise. Including an effective declaration of Universal Free Trade by eliminating about 90% of UK tariffs in the event of no deal.

Even if various companies have begun their whinging and claiming they'll go out of business. Which rather suggests those companies are dead wood which need clearing out anyway.

Yes indeed. I'm looking forward to "crashing out without a deal" because when the world doesn't end, the salt and screeching from remainiacs will be excellent.

Unfortunately, I fear the fix is in and somehow there'll be a unilateral withdrawal of Article 50 at the last moment which, conveniently, the ECJ has said can be done.

Why we don't just go full Henry VIII and dissolve the European Union's properties and operations here I don't know. After all, he crashed us out of the Catholic Church without a deal and despite some minor disruption it turned out to be the right decision because we avoided the fallout from the French Wars of Religion and so forth. We also took back control of our laws because for once they were all made here rather than partly by an unaccountable bureaucracy in Rome.
Because it's done by international treaties. In essence. It's never a great optics matter to suddenly tear up agreements and deals on a whim, this is why negotiated escape mechanisms are in most treaties. A negotiated escape mechanism which is strangely lacking inside the Withdrawal agreement.

Mostly because it's a blatant plot by May and Robbins to allow for the UK to be "outside" the EU for a bit, totally and completely decide it's horrid being in the big bad world, and then step back into Brussels abusive fists loving arms in about five years time. Ten max. That's why there's no universal escape mechanism in flagrant violation of numerous laws regarding international treaties.
 

Norvic

too gay to lift
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Well, as expected, it seems like May is getting a second dick rammed in her arse. I wonder where things are going to go next on this exciting tour of shitsville.
 

Sissy Galvez

kiwifarms.net
Brexit is going to backfire so hard on them that I will laugh all the way to the grave. Getting rid of pols and pakis is great but the UK should have just pushed the EU more to halt the flow of economic migrants vs leave the EU. Companies and financial institutions are jumping ship at record rates to mainland Europe. If Scotland and Ireland leave, we’ll there goes the UK.

It’s also not stopping the UK from prosecuting mothers and housewife’s for committing tranny though crimes. Their horribly inexcusable anti-free speech laws aren’t going anywhere.
 

Ponderous Pillock

Welcome to Triple T, Tards, Troons and Trolls!
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
By this point it's basically inevitable that it's WTO. MPs can pass all the exceptional motions it likes but the government has zero obligation to act on them.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: CWCissey
Tags
None

About Us

The Kiwi Farms is about eccentric individuals and communities on the Internet. We call them lolcows because they can be milked for amusement or laughs. Our community is bizarrely diverse and spectators are encouraged to join the discussion.

We do not place intrusive ads, host malware, sell data, or run crypto miners with your browser. If you experience these things, you have a virus. If your malware system says otherwise, it is faulty.

Supporting the Forum

How to Help

The Kiwi Farms is constantly attacked by insane people and very expensive to run. It would not be here without community support.

BTC: 1DgS5RfHw7xA82Yxa5BtgZL65ngwSk6bmm
ETH: 0xc1071c60Ae27C8CC3c834E11289205f8F9C78CA5
BAT: 0xc1071c60Ae27C8CC3c834E11289205f8F9C78CA5
LTC: LSZsFCLUreXAZ9oyc9JRUiRwbhkLCsFi4q
XMR: 438fUMciiahbYemDyww6afT1atgqK3tSTX25SEmYknpmenTR6wvXDMeco1ThX2E8gBQgm9eKd1KAtEQvKzNMFrmjJJpiino