Disaster Brexit: "Technical terms" agreed - Chequers minus, as feared, or Brexit in name only.

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When you vote on something completely pointless as it's not your decision on whether you are leaving or not, it's like voting on whether the tide is allowed to go in or out.




HOW THE FUCK WAS THIS NOT DONE MONTHS AGO?
Because our government couldn't organise an orgy in a very well equipped and staffed brothel.

In other news, Carole Cadwalladr is claiming that there's a conspiracy by Arron Banks, head of Leave.EU, to nobble an extension to Article 50 by persuading the Italian government to reject it. How does she know this? Because he turned his twitter locator off for 24 hours and went skiing in an area that voted heavily for Matteo Salvini's Lega party, who form the "populist" and "far right" coalition government over there with the Movimente Cinque Stelle.

Yes, because only guilty people don't spend every waking minute on twatter.
 

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When you vote on something completely pointless as it's not your decision on whether you are leaving or not, it's like voting on whether the tide is allowed to go in or out.
The government already indicated that it had no interest in that amendment and were whipping the Malthouse Compromise, which is a deal that's much closer to an actual Brexit that'd work. In that it's slightly dissapointing to both remainers and leavers. It's drafted by Remain-leaning MP Kit Malthouse and brought together the MPs who're seen as leaders of their respective factions, namely Nicky Morgan (Remain) and Stephen Baker (Leave). The people locked out of this were nut jobs like Woolaston and Sozzleberry, who fucked off to sit in obscurity and no hope of re-election "alongside" the Tiggers. (because God forbid they show some backbone and decision making).

If that doesn't pass, but the government decides to go ahead with delaying Brexit, then good fucking luck. Good fucking luck to the lot of them, because angry votes will go somewhere else and a Trump-Style Wave will brew.

EDIT: Malthouse Compromise rejected, fuck the lot of the bastards.
 
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Surprises me that there were only four votes in it. Given that Parliament is packed with remainers I'd have thought they'd emphatically have voted to take no deal off the table.

EDIT: The amended motion (ruling out no deal forever) has gone through harder. Nicola Fish is first out the blocks to cover herself in glory over it.

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Ugh. The fix is well and truly in. They'll try to get an extension to A50 and I suspect the EU will bite on it because it means they can subject us to £1bn-per-month penalty clauses that they were talking about and similar bumrape.
 
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all I took away from this was the phrase "Ireland being ruled from Dublin" and that's a fine thing to think of.
 

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Shit or get off the pot. Christ what is wrong with these numpties?

edit I know shes not "supposed too" but Elizabeth absolutely can go to the house of lords and then send a very polite letter to the speaker requesting the commons presence in the chamber whereupon she reams them all a new asshole in that high pitched voice of hers. She's been a good girl for half a century, so she is permitted one moment to really bash someone over the head with a scepter.


It's starting to look like this may be the time. She almost certainly won't though and that is a shame.
 
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It's a problem for them, especially the Tories. They've got half their head in what's good for the country, and half their head in what's good for them. Any Brexit, and especially a no deal Brexit is going to lead inevitably to the breakup of the united kingdom. First Scotland will vote for independence and then the Irish republicans will sweep the next elections and follow suit. The economy will be fucked beyond repair and all the banks who are only here based on history and intertia will bugger off to the continent. Balancing these facts, the Tories have to contend with the idea that now they've opened this dumbshit pandora's box, if they fail to deliver then the crazy/racist half of the party is going to fuck off to UKIP and that's the end of them until such time as FPTP is replaced by some fairer electoral system.

They've got to try to deliver the softest Brexit or no Brexit at all in such a way that it seems like it's not their fault, hence two years to fucking about achieving nothing.

I suggest a bill to revoke article 50 and to have a ceremonial burning of David Cameron in a wicker man to unite the country. That seems like the best solution all round.
 
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It's a problem for them, especially the Tories. They've got half their head in what's good for the country, and half their head in what's good for them. Any Brexit, and especially a no deal Brexit is going to lead inevitably to the breakup of the united kingdom. First Scotland will vote for independence and then the Irish republicans will sweep the next elections and follow suit. The economy will be fucked beyond repair and all the banks who are only here based on history and intertia will bugger off to the continent. Balancing these facts, the Tories have to contend with the idea that now they've opened this dumbshit pandora's box, if they fail to deliver then the crazy/racist half of the party is going to fuck off to UKIP and that's the end of them until such time as FPTP is replaced by some fairer electoral system.

They've got to try to deliver the softest Brexit or no Brexit at all in such a way that it seems like it's not their fault, hence two years to fucking about achieving nothing.

I suggest a bill to revoke article 50 and to have a ceremonial burning of David Cameron in a wicker man to unite the country. That seems like the best solution all round.
Yes to the effigy, no to the revocation of Article 50. Overdrive it and open free-trade Britain.
 

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Any Brexit, and especially a no deal Brexit is going to lead inevitably to the breakup of the united kingdom. First Scotland will vote for independence and then the Irish republicans will sweep the next elections and follow suit. The economy will be fucked beyond repair and all the banks who are only here based on history and intertia will bugger off to the continent.
Hmmm. Europhile, supports proportional representation, believes Project Fear...

Hey! Guys! I think I've found the Lib Dem voter!

To address your post substantively, [citation needed].

Scotland will not vote for independence solely to get back into the EU because the EU has specifically said, in the run up to indyref1, that Scotland doesn't qualify for EU membership other than as part of the UK. In addition, they are too poor, too wee, and too stupid to go it alone. There's a reason that James I came down to London to take the crown of the country who'd chopped his mother's head off as opposed to staying up in Edinburgh and running England as a colony.

If the banks were to flee, they would have done it by now. I suggest you go back to that Guido link I posted to you with his "Despite Brexit" archives. Since 29 March 2017, it has been a matter of law that we leave, deal or no, on 29 March 2019. Yet despite this, they have ruled out moving operations to the continent, and have signed lengthy and expensive leases on current or even larger offices. You don't do that if you are going to up sticks and bugger off.

Also, Irish republicans wanting independence? NBL. That would require Sinn Fein to take their seats at Westminster if they were to seek to push through an act giving the North to the Republic and entering the confines of Parliament is anathema to many Irish republicans. You may wish to listen to the Radio 4 Today programme on catch-up, which this morning had a rather interesting segment on the Irish border and how they intend to do away from the border checks and customs declarations, you know, the thing that doesn't exist but which Macron has built in northern France.

a ceremonial burning of David Cameron in a wicker man
Okay, I can get behind that. Sumer is icumen in, loudly sing cuckoo.

I live in an agricultural area as well. Might be good to guarantee the fertility of our fields.

EDIT: Just spotted this on the BBC website:

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So if it's not in the EU's interest to have no deal, why in the name of sanity are we voting to take it off the table? Congratufuckinglations.

The incompetence of this government knows no bounds. And frankly I'm starting to think that a lot of our parliamentarians are secretly in the pocket of Brussels or there's kompromat on them. Conspiratarded? Possibly, yes, but it's getting to the point at which mere incompetence isn't entirely credible as an explanation for this any more.
 
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Ugh. The fix is well and truly in. They'll try to get an extension to A50 and I suspect the EU will bite on it because it means they can subject us to £1bn-per-month penalty clauses that they were talking about and similar bumrape.
Want to see a Trump-like movement? Steal £1bn a month off of the british people and see what happens come next election.
 

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The delay is a scam, how are they going to do anything in the single year that they couldn't have done since the 2016 vote? It's do something now or no deal and fuck off with another referendum, remain lost deal with it.
Next thing you know is they will either ask for a second extension, or come to the insane decision to suspend Article 50 indefinitely until they come to an agreement (never).
 
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