Can you be Anti-Sexual Reassignment Surgery yet not come off as Transphobic? - Opinions of SJWs don't matter as everyone here is automatically transphobic in their eyes

[Cardenio]

Like many people today I personally know and interact with people in the Trans community. Thankfully not everyone who falls in that community is an SJW, they don't all fall apart if you use the slang tranny or heaven forbid deadname. Besides that you're not a bad person if you're transgendered. Frankly if you wanna wear a dress and call yourself Carol fine doesn't immensely harm me or others.

What does harm humanity at large is the concept that one should destroy their genitals in an attempt to turn them into a parody of the vagina/penis. Since you're on Kiwifarms I'm going to assume you know the process of a MTF sex change operation, as an aside I highly recommend the body horror subreddit known as r/NeovaginaDisasters/. Needless to say it can be far worse than having to frequently dilate one's literal axe wound. The lesser known FTM surgery is so horrifically absurd that I would think it was some elaborate shitpost. If you have the guts you can watch a Youtube video on it, it frankly feels like it belongs in a Nine Inch Nails music video.

Spoiler: F2M Sex Change PREPARE TO BE SICK

So am I writing about this so I can get some Asspats in Likes & Thunkfuls? Well yeah of course who doesn't want positive ratings? But I'm also writing it because I feel the masses need to start vocal opposition against SRS/Sex Change Operations. Because in my view it solves Gender Dysphoria in the same way Lobotomy solved mental illness. It's costly, it's destructive, and most importantly permanent.

Am I transphobic by being against Sex Change Surgeries? I don't hate Transpeople but I sure do hate these procedures.

 

[Frank D'arbo]

no you're human

 

[DumbDude42]

giving a shit about being considered "transphobic" is retarded.
if anything, "transphobia" is a badge of honor.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

Why does it matter to you? I don't disagree with you but I'm prepared to have the woke shits "clap back" about it. They're the ones who are going to weaponize -phobia at the earliest opportunity and there's not much to be done about that other than not giving in to their bullshit.

This is what "having the courage of your convictions" means, after all. Some people aren't going to like it and you either learn to live with it or you fold.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Rule Nr. 1: You will always be called troonphobic

So who cares

 

[Japanese Jesus]

" I highly recommend the body horror subreddit known as r/NeovaginaDisasters/. "
A few atrocities of that kind also tend to appear in r/medicalgore, though the trannie jannies are quick to delete them sometimes.

"Gender Dysphoria in the same way Lobotomy solved mental illness. It's costly, it's destructive, and most importantly permanent. "
Funnily enough, in this situation, the 'victims' are the ones defending the procedure the most.

"I don't hate Transpeople"
You will.

 

[oldTireWater]

I personally know and interact with people in the Trans community.

But how could you know they're trans?

 

[Clop]

Name one sane person today who hasn't been called a racist, a white nationalist, a homophobe, a transphobe, an islamophobe, etc.

If anything, those labels should prove to you that you put actual effort into thinking for everyone's best interests, because the people sticking those labels on you just want to feel a societal hand on their ass while they do fuck all. You're losing nothing by telling a friend going through the trans bullshit that you'd like them to reconsider mutilating themselves because you accept them as they were born.

 

[Rand /pol/]

Stupid question, I like my ladyboys with dicks, therefore I am opposed to SRS but am not transphobic.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

Preventing someone from mutilating one's self in a sad attempt to achieve his/her fantasies is far from being hateful.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

Phobic implies fear.

I'm not afraid of them but they are mentally ill and these butchers aren't curing shit.

 

[The Last Stand]

The way I see it, if you're a consenting adult that wishes to have those precodures done to you and have the funds to follow through, more power to you I suppose.

However, don't expect the same reactions from everybody post surgery. Results may vary. Oh, and DO NOT involve children with these surgeries. That's crossing the line.

 

[RinguPingu745]

I disagree with getting the surgery for the sole purpose that it isn't achieving the real thing. MTFs end up with a wound that needs to be dilated, and FTMs get a useless piece of flesh that requires a pump so it can be used as a makeshift dildo. Medical science just isn't advanced enough to create these things, and who knows when or if it will ever really happen.

I can understand why trans people might want these things since it would reinforce their identity, but I can't say it is a healthy way to handle it. We should be finding better ways to treat the actual cases of gender dysphoria instead of letting people fester in mental illness. Find the root cause for why a person feels like the opposite gender, and work on ways to fix it instead of letting people be deluded into thinking mutilation is a better option.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Gender reassignment surgery is a treatment, not the condition it’s trying treat nor the people the treatment is for. You can think one treatment is better than other or that some treatments are completely crappy or that the treatment is fine but how the diagnosing is done sucks. None that means you hate or fear people those treatments are for. For example, I think antibiotics should be controled much tighter for avoid breeding resistance. This is no way hateful towards those who take or have taken antibiotics, witch in western countries is all most everyone.

Criticism of treatments is normal part of how medical field evolves and improves. Does it work, how safe is it, is worth the risks and costs. Continues evaluation of treatments is absolutely necessary for safety and effectiveness. New treatment are tried out but found be ineffective or worse that already existing ones, old treatments are retired for improved methods or side effects turned out be worse than originally thought or because doing nothing is actually better.

Transitioning is meant to be a treatment for gender dysphoria. While people try get it of from being considered as a mental illness, there is no reason treat something medically if it’s a medical problem at least potentially (like cleaning a cut to avoid infection) so transitioning and the ways it can be completed should be evaluated just like any other treatment for other conditions. There is no reason why tranny treatments shouldn’t hold the same scrutiny. That means one can come the conclusion of gender reassignment surgery isn’t good enough treatment and be against it.

 

[ES 195]

By troons own logic you would be transphobic. By not supporting their decisions 100% you violate some sort of social code that requires you to agree with everything they say. After all, it's their brain and their body, you'll never understand how they feel.

I know a few people in the thread said it already but the most important thing is to not care about being labeled. If you've got tranny friends (bless your heart) and you don't want them to transition they should be okay with your opinion regardless of whatever stupid social pact they have to follow because they think they're the wrong sex. I think being honest, open, and caring is far more important than whatever dumb insult they could retaliate an opinion with.

But I also really don't like trannies so I guess I'm biased.

 

[Kenya Jones]

I don't care all I want is which ever one causes the most trannies to complain. Nah but seriously it depends on who you're talking to. Probably every tranny will call you transphobic for not condoning the butchering. And then every sane person thinks you can be anti-SRS and not be transphobic.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

If one of these lunatics wants to mutilate their own body, that's great; take a pair of rusty hedge clippers to that ugly growth for all I care. Where I draw the line is when they try to drag children into it, using them as shields to defend their warped views.

 

[La Luz Extinguido]

Phobic implies fear.

I'm not afraid of them but they are mentally ill and these butchers aren't curing shit.

That video made me very phobic for sure.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

TAKE THE UNDICK BIGOT!!!

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I say, who cares how you come off. It's your right to have feelings, fuck trannies for thinking otherwise.