Peace on earth!
I actually watched that livestream live funnily enough.I hope this is sarcasm, because "intelligience" is completely irrelevant.
It doesnt matter if lil Sam or Samantha are big brained enough to do daddy's taxes or understand biology and anatomy. They're still neither physically or mentally or hormonally mature yet for sex, as well as economically dependant on their own parents still in a "worst case scenario" aka pregnancy.
btw, was the girl same age or 16-18+ (assuming this wasnt another milo situation)? because both scenarios are equally fucking horrid. Unless Justicaar had it all planned out, intending to put on a fake mustache, call himself Juan and take up a fast-food job to pay for his child's college, being that he was so mature for his age. put down a loan for a house and become a good father.
There is literally no angle wherein this isnt several rungs of violently stupid, and Carl as a father should be not only be able but adamant about refuting the very idea at the face of it.
And this is without going into a essay spanning tirade about how this is paralell with what happened with Milo and so many other young people who had sex way too early, often with adults. They try to own it, they try to cope with it by talking about how they were in control or they felt comfortable or how they understood what was going on 100%. its a coping mechanism anyone with any sort of trauma, mild or severe, eventually does. Certainly healthier than the SJW tactic of repeatedly stabbing yourself with how bad your trauma was just to justify your own inadequacies, but its nevertheless a horrid coping mechanism, especially when used as an argument in age of consent discussions.
To me, Carl immediatly buckling under pressure when met with mild resistance, even on a basic bitch topic like this, just tells me that Carl is a failed Chameleon. If its a person he is friendly with, Carl will shape and bend whichever way is nessecary in hope of appeasing them. (bit of a digression, but another example) Like when he, Metokur and Louis Le vau talked on stream about the whole Liberalists thing and rather than just talk openly and frankly with Metokur about his intentions and beliefs he had to coat it in "totes self-aware" criticism. "oh yeah, i know im cringy, so fucking cringy. i hate being on stage and in front of people and being important i fucking hate this lol".
Note before someone brings this up as an "argument": i know young teens are curious about sex and whatnot, and experimentation is par for the course as hormones are brewing in their little brains, but clearly what is being talked about here isnt the mostly innocent experimentation between young teenagers, what is being talked about here, or more specificly argued for, is the abolishment of age of consent on the basis that his one dude claims to have been mature enough.
Its true, no one can say that Justicar was 100% incapable of consent, all they can say with 100% scientific accuracy is that he wasnt even on the onset of puberty yet which alone is enough of an argument why he is fucking wrong.
Its strange to have seen that single moment get clipped out specifically. I wouldnt say Carls reaction is out of context or anything, its pretty clear how idiotic he was from the short few lines.
Here is what happened
Justicar was explaining to carl that when he was 11 he actively pursued an older man. He describes it in a way that makes him (Justicar) seem like a sexual predator. He then went on to say that because he knew what he was doing and because he was the one with all the agency it makes him the exception to the rule that nobody is sexually mature enough to have sex at such a young age. Therefore the age of consent should be reconsidered.
I obviously dont agree with his logic. If he really was sexually mature enough I dont know. I doubt it. But maybe he was the exception to the rule. I dont know I dont live in his head.
Even if he was though it still doesnt make a difference.
Carls reaction though was classic carl. I kind of hate myself for not seeing it for what it was at the time but in my defence I only ever listened to him as background noise while I played Factorio.
Honestly I dont think he, in that moment, knew what he was saying. "It depends on the child" was essentially his way of saying "Yeah yeah, thats cool, so anyway..." while also trying to sound thoughtful and agreeable.
Why he has now, many years after the fact and presumably with a clear head, decided to champion this line is beyond me.