Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[Toucan]

I hope this is sarcasm, because "intelligience" is completely irrelevant.
It doesnt matter if lil Sam or Samantha are big brained enough to do daddy's taxes or understand biology and anatomy. They're still neither physically or mentally or hormonally mature yet for sex, as well as economically dependant on their own parents still in a "worst case scenario" aka pregnancy.
btw, was the girl same age or 16-18+ (assuming this wasnt another milo situation)? because both scenarios are equally fucking horrid. Unless Justicaar had it all planned out, intending to put on a fake mustache, call himself Juan and take up a fast-food job to pay for his child's college, being that he was so mature for his age. put down a loan for a house and become a good father.

There is literally no angle wherein this isnt several rungs of violently stupid, and Carl as a father should be not only be able but adamant about refuting the very idea at the face of it.

And this is without going into a essay spanning tirade about how this is paralell with what happened with Milo and so many other young people who had sex way too early, often with adults. They try to own it, they try to cope with it by talking about how they were in control or they felt comfortable or how they understood what was going on 100%. its a coping mechanism anyone with any sort of trauma, mild or severe, eventually does. Certainly healthier than the SJW tactic of repeatedly stabbing yourself with how bad your trauma was just to justify your own inadequacies, but its nevertheless a horrid coping mechanism, especially when used as an argument in age of consent discussions.

To me, Carl immediatly buckling under pressure when met with mild resistance, even on a basic bitch topic like this, just tells me that Carl is a failed Chameleon. If its a person he is friendly with, Carl will shape and bend whichever way is nessecary in hope of appeasing them. (bit of a digression, but another example) Like when he, Metokur and Louis Le vau talked on stream about the whole Liberalists thing and rather than just talk openly and frankly with Metokur about his intentions and beliefs he had to coat it in "totes self-aware" criticism. "oh yeah, i know im cringy, so fucking cringy. i hate being on stage and in front of people and being important i fucking hate this lol".

Note before someone brings this up as an "argument": i know young teens are curious about sex and whatnot, and experimentation is par for the course as hormones are brewing in their little brains, but clearly what is being talked about here isnt the mostly innocent experimentation between young teenagers, what is being talked about here, or more specificly argued for, is the abolishment of age of consent on the basis that his one dude claims to have been mature enough.

Its true, no one can say that Justicar was 100% incapable of consent, all they can say with 100% scientific accuracy is that he wasnt even on the onset of puberty yet which alone is enough of an argument why he is fucking wrong.

I actually watched that livestream live funnily enough.
Its strange to have seen that single moment get clipped out specifically. I wouldnt say Carls reaction is out of context or anything, its pretty clear how idiotic he was from the short few lines.

Here is what happened
Justicar was explaining to carl that when he was 11 he actively pursued an older man. He describes it in a way that makes him (Justicar) seem like a sexual predator. He then went on to say that because he knew what he was doing and because he was the one with all the agency it makes him the exception to the rule that nobody is sexually mature enough to have sex at such a young age. Therefore the age of consent should be reconsidered.

I obviously dont agree with his logic. If he really was sexually mature enough I dont know. I doubt it. But maybe he was the exception to the rule. I dont know I dont live in his head.
Even if he was though it still doesnt make a difference.

Carls reaction though was classic carl. I kind of hate myself for not seeing it for what it was at the time but in my defence I only ever listened to him as background noise while I played Factorio.
Honestly I dont think he, in that moment, knew what he was saying. "It depends on the child" was essentially his way of saying "Yeah yeah, thats cool, so anyway..." while also trying to sound thoughtful and agreeable.

Why he has now, many years after the fact and presumably with a clear head, decided to champion this line is beyond me.

 

[JuanButNotForgotten]

Justicar was explaining to carl that when he was 11 he actively pursued an older man. He describes it in a way that makes him (Justicar) seem like a sexual predator. He then went on to say that because he knew what he was doing and because he was the one with all the agency it makes him the exception to the rule that nobody is sexually mature enough to have sex at such a young age. Therefore the age of consent should be reconsidered.

So wait, that guy basically told "we should reconsider entire system, because some very small amount of cases tells otherwise"? Isn't that what lefties are trying to do with absolutely anything? And "saviour of the West" Carl Benjamin didn't see any problem with that statement and agreed?

 

[AltisticRight]

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This is an edit, since people can't tell sometimes.

Poor Swindonian, that AppleBees manager promotion must be taking a toll on his mental health. On top delivering X dish to table Y, he has to fill in Excel sheets.

Justicar was explaining to carl that when he was 11 he actively pursued an older man. He describes it in a way that makes him (Justicar) seem like a sexual predator.

I remember that guy, he had long streams about abolishing the age of consent and always gave me the creeps.

 

[Hagfish]

I obviously dont agree with his logic. If he really was sexually mature enough I dont know. I doubt it. But maybe he was the exception to the rule. I dont know I dont live in his head.
Even if he was though it still doesnt make a difference.

Carls reaction though was classic carl. I kind of hate myself for not seeing it for what it was at the time but in my defence I only ever listened to him as background noise while I played Factorio.
Honestly I dont think he, in that moment, knew what he was saying. "It depends on the child" was essentially his way of saying "Yeah yeah, thats cool, so anyway..." while also trying to sound thoughtful and agreeable.

Why he has now, many years after the fact and presumably with a clear head, decided to champion this line is beyond me.

Im sorry to be harping on about this, but again, his big-brain status does not matter. You are 100% scientifically proven not to be finished developing until at least the tail-end of puberty, both in body and in mind. You havent even gone through the burst of hormones that turn your body from that of an androgynous pint-sized shit to physically and mentally an adult.
Unless the dude was born with a beard, which i not only doubt but categorically refuse to believe he did, there is no way he was mentally prepared and developed enough for sex, especially with men twice or thrice his own age.
If i find little billy in the woods Butchering animals and nailing their entrails to trees, do i assume that he is just a very mature and enthusiastic future butcher or do i call the local vet to put billy down with a Tranq so that he can be taken to the nearest asylum?
There is no point in even entertaining the idea, even out of "fairness".

I think most people here either were or even still are fans of Carl Benjamin, as shown with the fact that everyone has their own tales to share. there is no need to "defend" it. I was a fan of Carl until the whole Carl Vs Metokur shit went down. There was obviously a level of charisma to his style and personality.
But the whole Chameleon thing became clear to me when i began to analyze many of his controversies and stupid statements.
The whole "You're all a bunch of White Nuggets" thing was literally him thinking he was clever by insulting the alt-right in a way that would Reeeeeeeally sting them on a personal ideological level, as if his skills of the chameleon allowed him to enter their brains and strike them where they are weak.

i dont think he championed it, did he? it appears more that he is ignoring what he said during his discussion with Justicar.

 

[Toucan]

Im sorry to be harping on about this, but again, his big-brain status does not matter. You are 100% scientifically proven not to be finished developing until at least the tail-end of puberty, both in body and in mind. You havent even gone through the burst of hormones that turn your body from that of an androgynous pint-sized shit to physically and mentally an adult.
Unless the dude was born with a beard, which i not only doubt but categorically refuse to believe he did, there is no way he was mentally prepared and developed enough for sex, especially with men twice or thrice his own age.
If i find little billy in the woods Butchering animals and nailing their entrails to trees, do i assume that he is just a very mature and enthusiastic future butcher or do i call the local vet to put billy down with a Tranq so that he can be taken to the nearest asylum?
There is no point in even entertaining the idea, even out of "fairness".

While I agree with you I think it is a mistake to tackle the arguments of the Skeptics head on like this. I have seen them do this time and again where they wrap up abstract concepts in personal history. Therefore any attack on their argument is an attack on them personally and they respond with "Oh so you think you know how I think? What are you the thought police?"
They then turn the argument into you having some kind of special knowledge about who they are as people and they make you look insane because the only way you can get out of that is by saying "Yes I know for a fact you were thinking XYZ at the time".
While you are in all likelyhood correct the skeptics are, to a man, tiresome pedants to their core. They will constantly point out that you cant possibly know how other people think and meanwhile the original subject you were arguing about is long gone.
Vee is probably the best at this.

I think most people here either were or even still are fans of Carl Benjamin, as shown with the fact that everyone has their own tales to share. there is no need to "defend" it. I was a fan of Carl until the whole Carl Vs Metokur shit went down. There was obviously a level of charisma to his style and personality.
But the whole Chameleon thing became clear to me when i began to analyze many of his controversies and stupid statements.
The whole "You're all a bunch of White Nuggets" thing was literally him thinking he was clever by insulting the alt-right in a way that would Reeeeeeeally sting them on a personal ideological level, as if his skills of the chameleon allowed him to enter their brains and strike them where they are weak.

When gamergate came out I was interested in gathering as much info as possible. It seemed that nobody knew what the fuck was going on. Carl provided a small amount of news about it. I sort of listened to his videos because I enjoyed feminist cringe at the time. As time went on I began to find Carl more unbearable. Coupled with the fact that I was becoming increasingly left wing I began to despise him. The last straw came during the Harmful Opinions thing.
He showed himself and the skeptics to be exactly the same as the SJW's he started off crusading against.
Influence peddlers, grifters, sycophants and naked careerists the lot of them..

i dont think he championed it, did he? it appears more that he is ignoring what he said during his discussion with Justicar.

Maybe not championed. But he refuses to disown the quote or say it was wrong.

 

[Souroti]

Lock it

 

[Hagfish]

While I agree with you I think it is a mistake to tackle the arguments of the Skeptics head on like this. I have seen them do this time and again where they wrap up abstract concepts in personal history. Therefore any attack on their argument is an attack on them personally and they respond with "Oh so you think you know how I think? What are you the thought police?"
They then turn the argument into you having some kind of special knowledge about who they are as people and they make you look insane because the only way you can get out of that is by saying "Yes I know for a fact you were thinking XYZ at the time".
While you are in all likelyhood correct the skeptics are, to a man, tiresome pedants to their core. They will constantly point out that you cant possibly know how other people think and meanwhile the original subject you were arguing about is long gone.
Vee is probably the best at this.

Oh true. I wasnt thinking about it in that way.
Though fervently arguing against scientific fact and in favour of pedophilia does seem a bit too far for most members of the SkepticsTM, and if major fuss was kicked up about it, odds are it would make them only look worse.

Maybe not championed. But he refuses to disown the quote or say it was wrong.

Thats just more of the Carl Benjamin trademark humility.

 

[Berrakh]

One of the lessons we must learn from Carl is that culture, particularly niche internet culture, means fuck all when trying to influence politics.
Trump was not elected by memes, as carl is so fond of saying, and breadtube will not overthrow the monarchies of the world.
All youtube political circles are show. Even the serious ones like Joe Rogan.
We know this because Carl himself failed to get elected and on the flip side so did Bernie Sanders.
We can all stop caring about it. None of it has any consequences on politics in the real world. Only real world shit can do that.

This. Thinking Carl's youtube audience would translate into an election win is the equivalent of watching so many Democratic Nominee campaigns cater to twitter. Then getting no delegates.

 

[JuanButNotForgotten]

Thinking Carl's youtube audience would translate into an election win

I don't know how anyone could say this with a straight face. Carl's audience is either foreign, too young even though it depends on a child really or too autistic to leave the house to vote.

 

[Punished Brent]

Did I miss gamergate 2? because I am still ready to remove women from gaming. Or Carl’s 30 year plan? It’s been a couple years so I figured it was time to check in. How’s the west doing?

 

[Kosher Snake]

View attachment 2083858Did I miss gamergate 2? because I am still ready to remove women from gaming. Or Carl’s 30 year plan? It’s been a couple years so I figured it was time to check in. How’s the west doing?

Jesus Christ when was that image made?

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Carl made a new video. No one cared enough to upload it in 12 hours, so here you guys go. Watching now, will give my thoughts if I feel like it.

It's another response to June Laporta (aka Shoe0nHead). Carl is at this point so irrelevant that he only feels safe enough to post on his main channel when he can take shots at the left for promoting incest legalization.

Very good video, Carl. You did it. You explained how you can just say "fuck your science, this is wrong". Enjoy the head pats you get from the people who still watch you.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Look an article about the genetics of cousin marriages and one article in the new york post.

MAN that is all of the left right there, how brave and special the "Totally not rapist" dunked on them right there. WoW what would we do with out carl to call out a fucking nothing article that no one is promoting or supporting.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Jesus, an hour and twenty of Carl? Even when I watched this sped I'd not have put up with that much of it. Who is even watching this shit anymore?

 

[TheImportantFart]

Jesus, an hour and twenty of Carl? Even when I watched this sped I'd not have put up with that much of it. Who is even watching this shit anymore?

Considering Carl used to go after people for being unable to summarise something in under five minutes, the length of his videos is rather ironic.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Jesus, an hour and twenty of Carl? Even when I watched this sped I'd not have put up with that much of it. Who is even watching this shit anymore?

I'll admit I used to do this, but that being said at the peak of me watching his videos, it was more like that thing where you're leaving on background noise while you play video games and aren't really paying attention to his inane ramblings.

I'm not sure whether or not that technically makes me a former fan.

 

[Berrakh]

Carl using the same memetic self inserts as 4chan is perfect brand taint. For who? You decide.

 

[nigger of the north]

Considering Carl used to go after people for being unable to summarise something in under five minutes, the length of his videos is rather ironic.

I feel the zenith of his vacillation was when he played that particular Sky News about a woman berating Tony Abbott's recent appointment for Trade Secretary (or something.) He managed to talk about a 2 minute news clip for about 90 minutes. I'm not even exaggerating.

 

[ociden]

Carl using the same memetic self inserts as 4chan is perfect brand taint. For who? You decide.

It's brand taint for humanity.

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

Carl jumped on Destiny’s stream today for an irl event. There’s quite a few comments like this, mixed in with some frustration towards Destiny.

I’d say this was all tongue in check but I suspect he’ll try to leech off of Destiny for some attention because he sees him as a common enemy against Communists.

Destiny has been getting increasingly tired of communists, so that’ll probably be the topic of another discussion between Carl and Steven. Doubtful Carl would ever ‘debate’ again.