Pinkamena Diane Pie
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Well, this spans over years, you bear with me.
It started in 2000, when she started the "Draco in Leather Pants" trope. She grew popular in the HP community because she created a new, different side to Draco Malfoy. (Apparently being accredited to creating the ever-so-cliche anti-hero. )
This was coined as the "Draco Trilogy." There were three "books" total. Draco Dormiens, Draco Sinister and Draco Veritas.
http://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Draco_Trilogy
While I have no knowledge of Harry Potter (I just recently started reading it and I'm barely halfway through the first book) so don't have much of an insight to the story itself. However, fans were eating it up, using her works as the popular Draco fanon works.
That's when the problems started. During the run of Draco Sinister (this book MIGHT have been the longest of the three, but Veritas was 540,000 words, which is insane for a fanfiction...) the "author" had decided to play an unannounced game with the readers. Apparently, she wanted to see if any of the readers had any idea which quote was not from herself. Using work from various places, she copied lines upon lines.
In 2001, "Avocado", the mod dedicated to recording this, noted the similarities and blatant copying of passages of fight scenes from "The Hidden Land" and "The Secret Copy", by Pamela Dean. She had gotten into trouble with the author for stealing straight out the books and, eventually, got taken down because of that.
From this, a whole onslaught of problem transpired. At the time, plagiarism hadn't mattered, but it had enough to shut down multiple boards in ff.net.
Eventually, she did return and "apologized" for that. However, that hadn't settled well with those that figured she was copying most of the dialogue and scenes. She decided it was wise to block and verbally attack multiple people and feign innocence.
She eventually decided to go on an "Anti-Bullying" campaign for her cause, but..the reality was, she was actually the biggest bully there was.
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/33442496804/october-is-anti-bullying-month-on-hiatuses-and
She would stalk those that she deemed as "haters" and, in turn, try to frighten them into submission. At one point, it has been stated that they called the police on a 13 year old girl and threatened her lawyer on her. (Heidi was a copyright lawyer, but apparently she's not her friend?)
She also tried getting someone kicked from University in the early 2000s for it.
This will be in two parts- somewhat of a story about how I got kicked out of the HP Fandom. I feel better about telling the truth about it, unlike CC. Here’s a little timeline-
October 2001- my boyfriend (now my husband) asked me a series of strange questions about a user, and a friend of mine, called John W. What his favourite restaurant was, what color he likes, etc. I’m not sure about the rest of the questions but I immediately told him what John’s favourite restaurant was (a dim-sum restaurant in NYC) and then afterwards, asked him why he asked all these questions about John. He admitted that he got into John’s Yahoo! Profile to look at the moderator message boards, I told him to give it back immediately and we didn’t talk about it for a while.
February 2002- the guilt was getting to me, I told my boyfriend that I wanted him to write an anonymous apology letter to one of the mods (Neil W.) and I helped him write it as Mafalda Hopkirk. I sent it to Neil without hiding my IP number (I didn’t know how the process worked) and he figured it out quickly that it was me through my IP number but didn’t tell the rest and told me to leave fandom quietly.
I got an IM from a male (another HP mod whose name escapes me), whose wife was Stacey, and we talked about the fandom, but never about the hacking. Then EVERYONE in the HP fandom stopped talking to me (I IMed AngieJ, siriusgeologist, Alicia/Sue (Boots527 in IM) and NO one talked to me until one of the Teenage Witches told me what was going on and that she had messages from Cassie and Simon. Both messages were very upsetting.
My IRL friends and my HP-fandom friends, who still sided with me, defended me on Livejournal and the HP messageboards. Cassie basically said to one, “Tell her that her parents should have aborted her.” I snuck into chat as Vivienne Stellaluna to see what they’re talking about and they completely PILED on me once they figured that the silent lurker was me. It was the worst kind of internet bullying I’ve experienced.
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/73559683.html
The full story for THAT is in the description there.
It...really doesn't help that the moment COB came out, it all leaked into a mess because the cycle had repeated itself. Her work is just rehashed fanfiction. In fact, that's one of the many complaints against the novel itself. Its a direct copy of Harry Potter with changes thrown in.
Sadly, it doesn't even end there. She rehashes her OWN WORK 3 times over. Multiple times in The Mortal Instruments and she made another series that copies the first series to a point. One wouldn't even need to read the second series to know how it pans out.
She's even created ANOTHER series on top of it because she liked writing the Draco trilogy. That's being released in 2016. This has been shown even in the movie that came out 2 years prior. (It only grew apparent when it was shown that the plot followed the FANFIC rather than the book itself.
And here everyone thought that EL James was the biggest copycat. She still copies her work to this day and still does the blocking portion when talking about the story itself.
I'm not sure who copied her in any regard; Meyer and Clare have the same mannerisms in terms of getting criticized for work.
As for Steph. Meyer has a history of being incredibly...weird with her work. She refused to release Midnight Sun because of a leak, she's selfish when it comes to donations (she had done a charity drive, for every book sold, only a dollar going to cancer research. To make matters worse, it was a 15 dollar book and it wasn't done everywhere.), and she's been, ultimately, childish with the disagreements.
When she told that she was getting published, she actually thought that she had the right to show that to those that disagreed with it prior to being famous. She didn't read the negative commentary and she even commented on someone that went there personally to state that her story was misogynistic and refused an answer. ("I'm anti human".)
Though, above all, she's very disrespectful to her family and pushes religion. I don't need to comment on her religion's portions in the story (bluntly obvious why), but I can state that she hasn't probably had the soundest of childhoods. The fact her college is known as a college to find a husband, at best. But that's beside the point. She has stated prior that she would rather leave her husband if Edward was alive. She has stated that Demon Spawn was her desired child- which is horrid considering she has children.
At least she got "over it". Though, apparently, she hasn't because she decided to create "Twilight rewritten". She has never actually proven her point though.
It started in 2000, when she started the "Draco in Leather Pants" trope. She grew popular in the HP community because she created a new, different side to Draco Malfoy. (Apparently being accredited to creating the ever-so-cliche anti-hero. )
This was coined as the "Draco Trilogy." There were three "books" total. Draco Dormiens, Draco Sinister and Draco Veritas.
http://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Draco_Trilogy
While I have no knowledge of Harry Potter (I just recently started reading it and I'm barely halfway through the first book) so don't have much of an insight to the story itself. However, fans were eating it up, using her works as the popular Draco fanon works.
That's when the problems started. During the run of Draco Sinister (this book MIGHT have been the longest of the three, but Veritas was 540,000 words, which is insane for a fanfiction...) the "author" had decided to play an unannounced game with the readers. Apparently, she wanted to see if any of the readers had any idea which quote was not from herself. Using work from various places, she copied lines upon lines.
In 2001, "Avocado", the mod dedicated to recording this, noted the similarities and blatant copying of passages of fight scenes from "The Hidden Land" and "The Secret Copy", by Pamela Dean. She had gotten into trouble with the author for stealing straight out the books and, eventually, got taken down because of that.
From this, a whole onslaught of problem transpired. At the time, plagiarism hadn't mattered, but it had enough to shut down multiple boards in ff.net.
Eventually, she did return and "apologized" for that. However, that hadn't settled well with those that figured she was copying most of the dialogue and scenes. She decided it was wise to block and verbally attack multiple people and feign innocence.
She eventually decided to go on an "Anti-Bullying" campaign for her cause, but..the reality was, she was actually the biggest bully there was.
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/33442496804/october-is-anti-bullying-month-on-hiatuses-and
She would stalk those that she deemed as "haters" and, in turn, try to frighten them into submission. At one point, it has been stated that they called the police on a 13 year old girl and threatened her lawyer on her. (Heidi was a copyright lawyer, but apparently she's not her friend?)
She also tried getting someone kicked from University in the early 2000s for it.
This will be in two parts- somewhat of a story about how I got kicked out of the HP Fandom. I feel better about telling the truth about it, unlike CC. Here’s a little timeline-
October 2001- my boyfriend (now my husband) asked me a series of strange questions about a user, and a friend of mine, called John W. What his favourite restaurant was, what color he likes, etc. I’m not sure about the rest of the questions but I immediately told him what John’s favourite restaurant was (a dim-sum restaurant in NYC) and then afterwards, asked him why he asked all these questions about John. He admitted that he got into John’s Yahoo! Profile to look at the moderator message boards, I told him to give it back immediately and we didn’t talk about it for a while.
February 2002- the guilt was getting to me, I told my boyfriend that I wanted him to write an anonymous apology letter to one of the mods (Neil W.) and I helped him write it as Mafalda Hopkirk. I sent it to Neil without hiding my IP number (I didn’t know how the process worked) and he figured it out quickly that it was me through my IP number but didn’t tell the rest and told me to leave fandom quietly.
I got an IM from a male (another HP mod whose name escapes me), whose wife was Stacey, and we talked about the fandom, but never about the hacking. Then EVERYONE in the HP fandom stopped talking to me (I IMed AngieJ, siriusgeologist, Alicia/Sue (Boots527 in IM) and NO one talked to me until one of the Teenage Witches told me what was going on and that she had messages from Cassie and Simon. Both messages were very upsetting.
My IRL friends and my HP-fandom friends, who still sided with me, defended me on Livejournal and the HP messageboards. Cassie basically said to one, “Tell her that her parents should have aborted her.” I snuck into chat as Vivienne Stellaluna to see what they’re talking about and they completely PILED on me once they figured that the silent lurker was me. It was the worst kind of internet bullying I’ve experienced.
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/73559683.html
The full story for THAT is in the description there.
It...really doesn't help that the moment COB came out, it all leaked into a mess because the cycle had repeated itself. Her work is just rehashed fanfiction. In fact, that's one of the many complaints against the novel itself. Its a direct copy of Harry Potter with changes thrown in.
Sadly, it doesn't even end there. She rehashes her OWN WORK 3 times over. Multiple times in The Mortal Instruments and she made another series that copies the first series to a point. One wouldn't even need to read the second series to know how it pans out.
She's even created ANOTHER series on top of it because she liked writing the Draco trilogy. That's being released in 2016. This has been shown even in the movie that came out 2 years prior. (It only grew apparent when it was shown that the plot followed the FANFIC rather than the book itself.
And here everyone thought that EL James was the biggest copycat. She still copies her work to this day and still does the blocking portion when talking about the story itself.
I'm not sure who copied her in any regard; Meyer and Clare have the same mannerisms in terms of getting criticized for work.
As for Steph. Meyer has a history of being incredibly...weird with her work. She refused to release Midnight Sun because of a leak, she's selfish when it comes to donations (she had done a charity drive, for every book sold, only a dollar going to cancer research. To make matters worse, it was a 15 dollar book and it wasn't done everywhere.), and she's been, ultimately, childish with the disagreements.
When she told that she was getting published, she actually thought that she had the right to show that to those that disagreed with it prior to being famous. She didn't read the negative commentary and she even commented on someone that went there personally to state that her story was misogynistic and refused an answer. ("I'm anti human".)
Though, above all, she's very disrespectful to her family and pushes religion. I don't need to comment on her religion's portions in the story (bluntly obvious why), but I can state that she hasn't probably had the soundest of childhoods. The fact her college is known as a college to find a husband, at best. But that's beside the point. She has stated prior that she would rather leave her husband if Edward was alive. She has stated that Demon Spawn was her desired child- which is horrid considering she has children.
At least she got "over it". Though, apparently, she hasn't because she decided to create "Twilight rewritten". She has never actually proven her point though.
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