fuzzyrodent85
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At this point, maybe it is a good idea for Tori to suppourt BLM. If a cop shoots her while she's protesting then Tori will be put out of her misery. It's the most humane outcome possible.
Horrorcow Cecily Kellogg / CecilyK / Uppercase Woman - unrepentant terrible human being liked by no one.
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Of course their protest medium of choice is frosting. Lol.
Being “cool” doesn’t pay the fucking bills. Tori is going to live exactly as her parents have: hand to mouth, avoiding work as much as possible, relying on taxpayers, and fleeing unpaid bills under cover of night. The difference is that Cecily and Charlie had Charlie’s mother’s death to look forward to, certain they’d get free money. Tori doesn’t have a well-off parent, grandparent, friend, or anyone in her life with so much as two nickels to rub together, let alone anyone who can leave her an inheritance. She is well and truly screwed.
rocknrollmartian
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Of course. I'm just saying that this is a far better time and place for Tori to be poor, fat, awkward, and gross than any other time in history, lol. That's a condemnation, not a commendation, of our current culture and society.
As for avoiding bills and responsibilities, that's why users and losers like the Kellogg-O'Hays are always pushing for welfare-adjacent "progressive" policies. Tori is likely always going to be relatively poor; however, if Charlie and Cecily can hold on to their current $80K ghetto rowhouse instead of losing it to foreclosure or destroying it through neglect (big if), it's possible that Tori can inherit it and maintain it, even with a shitty unskilled job, and be better off than many people in similar situations.
Anyway, I've always said that Tori has been uniquely screwed over from the start in ways that Charlie and Cecily--especially Charlie with his Ivy League education and respectable parents--never were. I think it's quite rare and hideously sad for somewhat "privileged" people to set their kid up for failure on purpose. That's why Cecily is one of the worst people on KF imo.
Do they own their house? I thought they skipped out on the one that they owned before the mortgage was done, and then moved somewhere else.
They fled under cover of night the home in the suburbs that they foreclosed on (and IIRC they only owed like $3k on it before it would have been theirs and not the bank’s). Cecily tried to hide this and made out like the suburbs were too racist and boring for them, so they moved into a ghetto rental. My understanding is that when Charlie’s mom finally died (may she RIP, now free from the daily humiliation of being this lazy asshole’s mother), they inherited enough to buy their new place.
In a way, not having a well-off relative in her life might be a blessing: Pain is a powerful motivator, and if she is incapable of sponging off of relatives (because they have nothing to sponge off of) it might inspire her to find a job and learn some degree of responsibility.
...Or, she might just mooch off the welfare system. Or friends, until they get sick of her.
Poor kid.
But what is she qualified to do? With that ridiculous school and Cecily and O'Hat completely failing to impart any knowledge or skills themselves and crowing about how she's too badly behaved, sorry, "fierce," for actual school, I can't see this ever happening.
Basic entry-level jobs: Fast food, cashiering, anything else that is relatively low-skill. As for the attitude, one can only speculate: I find that the prospect of legitimate homelessness and inability to afford the basics compels a most people to control themselves, at least in the short-term.
Most people, anyway.
Hey Cecily, how’s being a proud white gentrifier working out for you tonight? Somehow I doubt you’re shielding these “brown boys” from bullets with your body.
rocknrollmartian
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Quelle surprise, there's chaos and violence not even a mile from Cecily's shithole. Too bad she's a craven, blustery faux-activist or she could be out there protecting at least three or four innocent Basketball Americans with her gunt alone.
I wonder if the O'Kelloggs will soon be run out of the neighborhood for being white.
What? She's fat and a moron.
Reggie Wanker
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She sides with the guy who was shot & killed while advancing on the cops with the knife.
She wrote on FB that it happened about ten blocks from her house and referred to him as a neighbor and wished him to "Rest in power."
And wrote: "Re-consider before posting "well, he had a knife." They didn't even TRY to de-escalate."
The guy shot ahd a knife and was advancing on the police. They had their guns out were backing away and ordered the guy to put the knife down, and he kept advancing and was 10 feet away when they fired. He could have lunged and had the knife in either of the cops in less than a a second. Does she expect the police to sit down and try to have a drum circle? The guy shot and killed by the police had a record of assault and resisting arrest after hitting a police officer, according , robbery, assault, and possessing an instrument of crime after kicking down the door of a woman and putting a gun to her head. He was also an aspiring rapper who rapped about shooting people and killing cops. : https://www.the-sun.com/news/1702596/walter-wallace-jr-rapping-cops-killed-criminal-record/
The stores in Cecil's area are getting looted. I wonder if she will get upset by this and think it is unfair that people are destroying the stores in her area making it harder for her to buy food and necessities.
She wrote on FB that it happened about ten blocks from her house and referred to him as a neighbor and wished him to "Rest in power."
And wrote: "Re-consider before posting "well, he had a knife." They didn't even TRY to de-escalate."
The guy shot ahd a knife and was advancing on the police. They had their guns out were backing away and ordered the guy to put the knife down, and he kept advancing and was 10 feet away when they fired. He could have lunged and had the knife in either of the cops in less than a a second. Does she expect the police to sit down and try to have a drum circle? The guy shot and killed by the police had a record of assault and resisting arrest after hitting a police officer, according , robbery, assault, and possessing an instrument of crime after kicking down the door of a woman and putting a gun to her head. He was also an aspiring rapper who rapped about shooting people and killing cops. : https://www.the-sun.com/news/1702596/walter-wallace-jr-rapping-cops-killed-criminal-record/
The stores in Cecil's area are getting looted. I wonder if she will get upset by this and think it is unfair that people are destroying the stores in her area making it harder for her to buy food and necessities.
Normally I'd refer to this one news video I saw a while ago. Some bucketmouth Nigadvocate was bitching about the way his local PD handled an armed confrontation (along with the "They didn't try to de-escalate!). So the chief invited said bucketmouth "pastor" to attend a police training session using firearms. The upshot is... Sambo was humbled (as he should be). But I don't hold out hope that he remembered any of it during subsequent police arrests of the local basket ball Americans.
So what I'm saying is this fat tattooed piece of tattooed shit could attend a similar training, but once the next opportunity for virtue signalling, running her oversized mouth, and/or getting a "memorial tattoo" instead of clothes/a roof/education for her daughter, she'll be Johnny on the Spot.
Now... for a JOB OFFER? Not so much. Probably won't have the spoons.
Reggie Wanker
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I saw that thing posted elsewhere where the city councilperson/whoever went to the police scenario training and learned that it wasn't so easy to deal with dangerous people in a fast moving situation.
As you said, I don't see Cecily doing that.
As you said, I don't see Cecily doing that.
rocknrollmartian
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Of course not, and anyone who thinks that it would be easy is just a smug moron. Cops have issues sometimes, yes, but it's obvious that dealing with violent, erratic cracked- and methed-out criminal psychopaths with weapons who spend most of their time literally running around basketball courts or doing physical labor of some sort would present many challenges and wouldn't be so clean and straightforward.
Interesting that the dialogue surrounding this stuff is all about blaming cops for not being perfect and never about blaming societal menaces for being worthless and soulless.
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I can't take credit for this image: but it says it all.
Tell_No_Lahs
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I've heard survivors of shitty parents say that once they were out from under their parents' thumb, they thought about life totally differently. Part of me hopes Tori will get a room in a crappy apartment with a few roommates who have semi-normal lives (jobs, expect her to pay rent on time, that sort of thing), and re-think the way she was raised.
The only way I can respond to this thread is with a :powerlevel:, so I'll put the meat of it under a spoiler ... but I grew up in an environment similar to Tori's except I only had one parent and had to attend regular conventional ebil oppressive school.
My mom is basically a cross between a Reagan Republican version of Cecily here and Stephanie "Sapphire Crimson Claw" Cianfriglia. She didn't expect parenthood to be So Hard, You Guys, wasn't prepared because she could barely make competent decisions for herself, and didn't handle it well at all.
I was a sad, unpleasant kid who had a sad, unpleasant upbringing and counted the minutes until I could legally escape my mentally compromised mom and her dilapidated, hoarded, filthy bug-infested hovel.
Not to say I made great decisions from there on out -- in fact I made a lot of shitty ones, like but not limited to: going through my own "Radical" Fuck Tha Man!! phase, having questionable thrift store fashion, drinking too much, associating with ne'er-do-wells in the "queer" "punk" scenes, gaining weight in the hopes that gross men would leave me alone, flying by the seat of my pants financially, and joining more than one "art" "collective."
I'm sure most regular people thought I was a doomed waste of space for at least a good fifteen to twenty years.
But I grew out of my drunk phase, didn't develop a hard drug habit, and avoided going to jail or getting pregnant. I slowly learned how to dress and how to interact with other people. Today I have a decent sense of style, can hold a data-entry job, and am not entirely ashamed of myself and my life.
So despite all ...
I was a sad, unpleasant kid who had a sad, unpleasant upbringing and counted the minutes until I could legally escape my mentally compromised mom and her dilapidated, hoarded, filthy bug-infested hovel.
Not to say I made great decisions from there on out -- in fact I made a lot of shitty ones, like but not limited to: going through my own "Radical" Fuck Tha Man!! phase, having questionable thrift store fashion, drinking too much, associating with ne'er-do-wells in the "queer" "punk" scenes, gaining weight in the hopes that gross men would leave me alone, flying by the seat of my pants financially, and joining more than one "art" "collective."
I'm sure most regular people thought I was a doomed waste of space for at least a good fifteen to twenty years.
But I grew out of my drunk phase, didn't develop a hard drug habit, and avoided going to jail or getting pregnant. I slowly learned how to dress and how to interact with other people. Today I have a decent sense of style, can hold a data-entry job, and am not entirely ashamed of myself and my life.
So despite all ...
... Tl;dr I think there's still hope for Tori to get her shit together.
It will take a willingness to examine other perspectives, a desire to change her situation, and the help of other kind people including a competent cognitive-behavioral therapist and/or a shrink.
But if I was able to lose weight, learn to get my limited money together, develop good hygiene and food habits, and get over my fear of what my mom had always told me was a big bad scary awful world where I would never succeed or find fulfillment ... ... ... I'll hold out a ton of rainbows for this kid as well.
(Please excuse formatting because I'm on mobile and have tard fingers! @QuokkaCaptain, I couldn't figure out how to attribute your final quote up there, but you have my : agree : for sure.)
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For those of us who survived Kellogg-style childhoods and now live better, it feels nasty to let go of all hope for Tori. Anyone who’d rooted for us would have gotten rainbow-rated out the ass, too. But we can say it’s possible while still knowing it’s not probable.
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