Dramacow Cherry, Archeia and the Great RPG Maker 2003 Scam -

Agent Otter Whiskers

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What Is RPG Maker 2003?
RPG Maker 2003 (originally RPG Tsukuru 2003) is a program made to create games of the RPG genre easily, without any programming knowledge. Its predecessors are 95 and 2000, both developed by a company named ASCII, 2003 was made by Enterbrain, however, who acquired the rights to the franchise. None of the 3 titles had been released outside of Japan until recently. Only fan translations existed back then but none of them were legally acknowledged.

Who Is Cherry?
David "Cherry" Trapp is a 22 years old Austrian who made a handful amazing hacks for RM2000/2003. He is also listed as one of the developers of the Official RPG Maker 2003. His website is at http://cherrytree.at/

How It All Began
Jasmin "Archeia" Toral, another person involved and invested in the RM community, petitioned Enterbrain to grant her permission to release an official version and approached Cherry to help with the localization . RM2003 was then released on 24 Apr, 2015.
Nobody can argue, this is a noble cause in itself. This is not where the problems stem from, however. Cherry did something other than localization. He edited the main functions of the program itself. More accurately, he hacked. That is right. According to him, the source code was lost by Enterbrain, so ultimately he was hired to hack. He tried to fix some issues and better integrate the program on newer Windows OS's (such as re-adding support for midi playback). Little did he know about the consequences...

Archeia said:
I pitched it to Degica and in turn asked EB. Then we tried to start a petition. I asked Cherry to get involved with the project but it took a while before we finally had a go signal.
Cherry said:
My job was the technical side: Beginning with dealing with character set issues – the RPG Maker 2000/2003 series were from the pre-Unicode era –, over fixing old bugs to thinking of and implementing new features and improvements, such as the recently added “Custom Title Screen” feature.
Cherry said:
The reason why “hacking” is involved in the first place is because the source code of RPG Maker 2003 had been lost over the years.
source: My Boxed Universe interview

Issues and Criticism
With Cherry's modifications came bugs which previously did not exist. A large amount of them only applied to the steam version (where they primarily released the program) due to Cherry's unfamiliarity with it. Many of them got fixed but some major ones remain.

Moreover, following the release of this official RM2003 people started asking questions regarding the legality of this one and the fan translations from over 10 years ago. You see, with the release of the official version, Enterbrain and all of its associates could finally claim how illegal the fan translations are and rightfully ban anyone bringing them up or posting games made using them. The new RM2003 did include a feature to convert older projects to legalize them, however, due to how fiercely Cherry and Archeia rubbed it in people's faces that only their RM2003 is legal, nobody paid attention to that, instead they got driven away or bewildered by their attitude.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/362870/discussions/0/530646080847115103/#c492378806374207863
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The Major Issue
Although it only appeared to a few people, it was enough to know there is something seriously broken in the program. It is the way Cherry rewrote the full screen code. Instead of switching to 320*240, the resolution stays the same, something else resizes the display, in other words: it is a fake full screen. It uses GDI instead of DirectDraw the old one used. At first the F5 key only allowed to toggle Bilinear interpolation (which made the screen awfully blurry), then it was made possible to change between GDI and DirectDraw. The main problem is that it lags. Just slightly, not in a very noticeable way, but it is enough to cause eye strains. Cherry could not solve this.

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In the end Cherry left without solving the issue and other bug reports have been ignored.
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Why This Is a Scam
  • They lied to people. It isn't a complete makeover, it is a hack, a hack which costs $20.
  • The program was released on 24 Apr, 2015 while the interview in which they state it is, in fact, a hack was posted on 30 Sept, 2015, half a year after the official release.
  • Instead of offering help, they obnoxiously got defensive over every negative comment and told people off with the "don't buy if you don't like" attitude.
  • Some of the major issues never got fixed, Cherry disappeared.
  • The latest update (released 3 months ago) never made it to the forum store. It is still only available on steam.
 

ActualKiwi

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Interesting, considering how many "RPG Maker"/ Ez-game-assistant style programs there are on Steam now, why would anyone bother with this outdated pile of steaming filth?
Also, do we have any other sources for Cherry? FB? Twitter? Official Site? Him chimping out anywhere?
 

Agent Otter Whiskers

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Also, do we have any other sources for Cherry? FB? Twitter? Official Site? Him chimping out anywhere?
That is doubtful or who knows... I only checked steam and forums.rpgmakerweb.com. The latter is heavily moderated, so there's not a chance of any drama staying there. Maybe he posted something on fb, his real name is given.
 

Hat

Tranny Sayaka Miki
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Interesting, but if this all happened months ago, what more discussion is to be had?
 

Agent Otter Whiskers

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Interesting, but if this all happened months ago, what more discussion is to be had?
My primary aim in creating this thread was to have this scandal documented. Although there hasn't been any response for a month, the issue is left unresolved and the other developer is still around. Once I have time I'll try persuading her to give a statement. I'm no troll however, so I don't go looking to stir up trouble on my own.
There is also this thread to look through, but after spending 5 hours to write this I haven't the strength. http://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/17752/
 

ActualKiwi

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Interestingly, his main site set off alarms with Avast as soon as I visited it for trying to autodownload/autoinclude some Javascript....good start.
As you mentioned, there seems to have been no updates anywhere on the site for a long while.
However he appears to still be posting on the RPGMaker forums. Nothing cow-worthy though
 

Cynical

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Archeia is pretty well known in the RPG Maker community and is on the up and up, although they are also to some extent in the official employ of the creators of the program so I'm not surprised she's going down the official party line of "this is the only officially sanctioned version of RM2K3" and giving short shrift to anyone who doesn't like that. Basically, she's under contract to be like that.

In fact, ANYONE employed by them is like that, the fact their software has been widely pirated for years apparently is a bleeding sore they still haven't entirely gotten over, and while they acknowledge the existence of the fan translated version, it is illegal and thus does not have their sanction, support or approval, and so they really get pissed when people make games using illegal copies of their software.

According to a post I saw on their official forums, they admitted they have a way to examine the source of the game to see if it was made with a legit maker or a pirated one (likely some sort of registration watermark left on the game executable code they can detect, which is a guess on my part, but would make sense)

Never heard of this Cherry guy, but I do know it was confirmed via Archeia the source code was lost so this guy probably did have to break open a hex editor and hack the program blind. Why he acted like such a whiny bitch, hell if I know, but I do know Steam and the official site are kind bad at talking to each other, so one might get bonus swag the other doesn't, and Steam generally gets the better stuff due to the fact it sells many more units globally than the official site, so the twain not meeting on one version getting the better updates makes perfect sense.
 
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