China is not mad in any way over Australia, also they may not need natural gas from Aus anymore. - Australia Derangement Syndrome now spreading rapidly throughout China.

[Snekposter]

"Economic Coercion is only OK when we do it." - Americans. I'm no fan of China, but the hypocrisy from these people is staggering.

Hypocrisy is the name of the game in international relations. That said, China's making some very extreme demands of Australia, such as "Drop your investigations into the origins of the Wuhan Flu", which if they're as innocent as they claim they are should be welcoming an investigation as to where it originated.

 

[theshep]

China puts tariffs of up to 200 per cent on Australian wine​

The Chinese Government has announced it will place tariffs on all Australian wine imports from tomorrow, striking a blow to the $1.2 billion-a-year industry.

It follows the preliminary findings of a Chinese anti-dumping investigation into Australia's wine exports that found that dumping exists and causes Chinese winemakers "substantial harm".

China has accused Australian producers of selling wine for below the cost of production.

The investigation is not due to finish until next year, but China's Commerce Ministry announced that from November 28, importers of Australian wine entering China will need to pay temporary "anti-dumping security deposits".

The deposits, which effectively work like tariffs, will range from between 107 per cent to more than 200 per cent.

The move comes after China's Commerce Ministry gave informal instructions to importers to suspend orders of wine and six other types of Australian exports earlier this month.

Shares in Treasury Wine Estates, one of Australia's largest exporters, plunged 11 per cent this morning as the news was being confirmed.

The company initially paused trading and then confirmed it will be in a halt until Tuesday.

Tony Battaglene from Australian Grape and Wine said the tariffs would make it incredibly difficult for Australian wine exporters.

"The China market is a big market for us, but also some of our major competitors, particularly from Europe, are [now] given a tariff advantage of 100-200 per cent [which] is going to make it very difficult to compete … it won't be good," he said.

Trade Minister Simon Birmingham said the tariffs delivered a "devastating blow" to the wine industry.

"It will render unviable for many businesses their wine trade with China and clearly we think it's unjustified, without evidence to back it up," he said.

"It's a tax on Chinese consumers, essentially, but by taxing the product at such enormous, impactful levels, it will likely see consumers turn away from that, and that is what has the devastating impact on Australian producers.

"That's why we think it is grossly, grossly unfair, unwarranted, unjustified."

Very little product is going in'​

Mr Battaglene said there were hundreds of shipping containers of Australian wine building up at ports across China since an unofficial ban on imports came into effect earlier this month.

It is understood the wine delayed at customs will now be subject to the tariffs.

"Very little product is going in," he said.

"We had a reduction in export approvals of 80 to 90 per cent.

"What has gone in is sitting basically in customs, trying to go through increased testing and compliance procedures."

He said the industry was unaware of any wine that had cleared China's customs since the ban, and subsequently large numbers of wine exporters had withheld from shipping wine from Australia.

"I can't remember a year like this. This is the biggest single challenge we have ever faced in such an important market for us," Mr Battaglene said.

"We need to be able get through this and work with both the Australian and Chinese Government to resolve this."

Agriculture Minister David Littleproud said the Australian Government was in contact with Chinese authorities.

"We're trying to get an appreciation of the reasoning behind the determination in introducing these tariffs," he said.

"That's why we're moving quickly to work with the industry and my officials and DFAT officials in Beijing to get an understanding so we can put our case around this decision … that we feel is quite outrageous and, to be honest, disproportionate to any reason that anyone has put to us subsequently."

Shadow Trade Minister Madeleine King said she was "deeply concerned" about the tariffs.

"Labor understands the relationship with China is increasingly complex," she said.

"It is a relationship that must be managed in the national interest and not for partisan political interests."

The announcement of a wine tariff comes amid souring trading relations that have seen China impose import tariffs on Australian barley.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/china-puts-tariffs-on-australian-wine-trade-tensions/12886700

 

[Super-Chevy454]

China puts tariffs of up to 200 per cent on Australian wine​

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-27/china-puts-tariffs-on-australian-wine-trade-tensions/12886700

With the current floods in China who'll put lots of Chinese into a famine situation, not everyone will be able to buy wine....

 

[Snekposter]

Did you guys even sell a whole lot of wine to China? From my understanding its like Aussie beer, not all that good but there's a lot of it out there. Wait, that's exactly what the Chinese want with literally anything... cheap as dirt and good enough otherwise.

 

[LegoTugboat]

Did you guys even sell a whole lot of wine to China? From my understanding its like Aussie beer, not all that good but there's a lot of it out there. Wait, that's exactly what the Chinese want with literally anything... cheap as dirt and good enough otherwise.

China's about 40% of the market. We've been consistently beating the French with wine quality since the late 80s, much to their annoyance.

 

[Snekposter]

I mean, beating the French for wine quality isn't hard. Some randos in Napa did that in the 70's, much to their annoyance. Turns out its a good idea to actually select and manage your grape varieties instead of just growing whatever and dumping it all in one giant vat.

 

[HumanHive]

This is best for both countries.
Aussies shouldn’t be making wine, and pureblooded Han - NOT A TRACE OF MONGOL DNA - should not be drinking it.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

This. It's a big blow. We know some winemakers in the Yarra Valley who lost a lot of their vines in the fires (like many, many other vineyards). This is a fucking disaster.

I wonder if India is interested to Australian wine? That could be a way to piss off Xi the pooh.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

The rule with Aussie wine is generally that the more expensive it is, the better it is. With other countries, even cheap wine can be great. With Australia, cheap wine is universally garbage that will make you want to puke.

 

[theshep]

They may be right, but they're being cunts about it. Worry about your own backyard first.

https://archive.md/r9Usl

 

[haurchefant]

If Chyna wants to squawk about human rights violations then they have some concentration camps to take down first. then we'll talk.

PS killing muslims is extremely based and cool hth

 

[Radioactive Man]

Meanwhile, in reality.

"New figures from the Department of Home Affairs show the number of people arriving from China and applying for onshore protection visas jumped a massive 311 per cent from 2269 in 2016-2017 to 9315 in 2017-2018."

Amount of Australians seeking asylum in China? Fucking zero.

 

[theshep]

China slams Australia-US hypersonic missile plans as ‘threat’​

A war of words is in danger of exploding into something more catastrophic after China slammed a move by Australia saying it’s “ready to defend itself”.

Australia has joined the US to invent a guided hypersonic cruise missile. Now China says the move makes Australia “a potential threat”.

On Tuesday, Defence Minister Linda Reynolds said: “We will continue to invest in advanced capabilities to give the Australian Defence Force more options to deter aggression against Australia’s interests.”

The statement came even as a diplomatic storm erupted between Canberra and Beijing over a wolf warrior diplomat’s tweeted image of an Australian soldier holding a knife to an Afghan child’s throat.

Amid the uproar, China’s Communist Party-controlled media outlet The Global Times lashed out at the deal formalising an effort to build a hypersonic missile with the US.

It called Australia a “potential threat”.

It ruled Australia had “no military tensions” with China.

It defined Australia as “far away”.

It judged Australia’s “geographic location” a hurdle to Beijing’s South China Sea ambitions.

It boasted China already has hypersonic weapons, and more “are under development”.

It dismissed the threat as “directed-energy” weapons could defeat them.

“If Australia wants to provoke China, China is also ready to defend itself,” The Global Times said.

And, analysts warn, Australia’s virtually defenceless.

HYPERSONIC ARMS RACE

China and Russia claim to have hypersonic weapons already.

Russian state-controlled media has been broadcasting footage of aged (but very fast) MiG-31 interceptor fighters with bulking missiles strapped to their bellies.

China’s heavily censored social media recently carried pictures of an H-6N strategic bomber carrying an enormous ballistic weapon. It’s also believed to be hypersonic.

But it’s Russia’s Kinzhal “Dagger” missile which the joint Australia-US project appears to be emulating.

The declared goal is to build a weapon capable of being carried by F-18F Super Hornets and P-8A Poseidon reconnaissance aircraft.

Australia’s Defence Science and Technology Group (DST) has long been working on the challenges of hypersonic flight. The heat, stress and complex physics of flying at more than five times the speed of sound are immense. But the benefits offer a guided weapon capable of evading interception and delivering tremendous kinetic impact.

During the past 15 years, DST has been collaborating with the US Pentagon under the $US54 million Hypersonic International Flight Research Experimentation (HIFiRE) program. That’s now been replaced by the Southern Cross Integrated Flight Research Experiment (SCIFiRE).

“The SCIFiRE effort aims to cooperatively advance air-breathing hypersonic technologies into full-size prototypes that are affordable and provide a flexible, long-range capability, culminating in flight demonstrations in operationally relevant conditions,” the Pentagon statement said.

WEAPONS HOT

Australia’s Defence Strategic Update earlier this year telegraphed the deal, announcing a “test and evaluation program for high-speed, long-range strike and missile defence, including hypersonic weapons, leading to prototypes to inform future investments.”

It judged the regional threat to have “accelerated faster than anticipated … through a combination of coercive activities.”

To counter this, it outlined a list of new acquisitions and technological programs.

“Long-range lethality will be strengthened through additional long-range rocket systems, protected mobile artillery and enhanced missile development,” the Defence Strategic Update notes.

The document outlined the expenditure of some $400-$500 million for the procurement of “land-based maritime strike missiles” over the next decade. Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced an $800 million deal to buy air-launched AGM-158C Long-Range Anti-Ship Missiles (LRASM) in July.

The signing of the hypersonic co-operation project rounds off the shift towards a new Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2AD) strategy.

“The security arrangements, interoperability, intelligence sharing, and technological and industrial co-operation between Australia and the United States are critical to Australia’s national security,” the document said.

Meanwhile, analysts have been examining the implications of this latest effort by the West to play “catch up” with its autocratic competitors.

And some significant weaknesses have been identified.

FEET OF CLAY?

“China has no intention of making Australia, which is far away and has no military tensions with China, a military foe. But if Australia develops and deploys aggressive weapons such as hypersonic missiles under the influence of the US, it is binding itself to the US chariot and could become a threat to China,” The Global Times warned on Wednesday.

Australia is already under the umbrella of China’s own hypersonic and ballistic missiles, such as the recently deployed DF-17.

H-6 strategic bombers can also carry cruise missiles within reach. This makes relatively undefended ADF military facilities, such as the Tindal Air Force Base in the Northern Territory, vulnerable.

According to Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) analyst Albert Palazzo, that’s Australia’s Achilles heel.

“What’s missing is a broad investment in defensive infrastructure to protect this essential capability upgrade from an adversary’s attack,” he said.

“This neglect must be corrected if the ADF is to have the opportunity to use its new capabilities before they’re destroyed.”

Fellow ASPI analyst Dr Malcolm Davis said the entirety of Canberra’s new $200 billion investment in defence equipment was at risk.

“If we lose the ‘battle of the first salvo’, we lose the war, and all the investment in F-35s, Attack class submarines and Hunter class frigates will be wasted in the first few hours of a conflict.”

Dr Palazzo said simulations suggest up to 70 per cent of all warplanes will be destroyed at their bases within any war’s first minutes. He adds urgent efforts must be undertaken to improve the survivability of docked submarines and warships, and even parked armoured vehicles.

“Program managers will incorporate features and devices into the design of vehicles to negate the effect of blasts, thereby improving the survivability of the crew and the platform,” he wrote. “However, much less thinking is given to the protection of those capabilities when they’re at ports, airfields or barracks.”

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/china-slams-australiaus-hypersonic-missile-plans-as-threat/news-story/6433a070c1ab9304e442dce3a4e1174c

https://archive.md/wip/XsfpY

 

[GrumbleBum2]

China slams Australia-US hypersonic missile plans as ‘threat’​

A war of words is in danger of exploding into something more catastrophic after China slammed a move by Australia saying it’s “ready to defend itself”.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/china-slams-australiaus-hypersonic-missile-plans-as-threat/news-story/6433a070c1ab9304e442dce3a4e1174c

https://archive.md/wip/XsfpY

They can hardly complain given their support for the development of similar capabilities in dependent shitkicker states like North Korea and Pakistan.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Meanwhile, in reality.

"New figures from the Department of Home Affairs show the number of people arriving from China and applying for onshore protection visas jumped a massive 311 per cent from 2269 in 2016-2017 to 9315 in 2017-2018."

Amount of Australians seeking asylum in China? Fucking zero.

A lot of them could be spies. Like young Russian couples on holiday at major cities for "sightseeing" who are almost certainly feeding info back to the FSB.

 

[theshep]

A lot of them could be spies. Like young Russian couples on holiday at major cities for "sightseeing" who are almost certainly feeding info back to the FSB.

I'm sure they are. Like many of the Chinese international students studying at our best universities.

Take a look, for example, at what is happening on our own turf.

Pro-Hong Kong students in Australia filmed, threatened and intimidated
Students involved in pro-Hong Kong protests at Australian universities say they have been assaulted, filmed and threatened by Chinese students.

It comes as a Chinese student group has called on an Australian university to "clean" away protest posters made by pro-Hong Kong student activists.

It is part of an international conflict playing out on home soil, as protests continue to rage in Hong Kong against an extradition bill that opponents fear will allow China to encroach on its legal system.
Pro-Hong Kong material has been torn down by nationalist Chinese students at universities across Australia this week but the situation escalated on Wednesday when a Chinese student group called on the University of Tasmania to remove post-it note displays calling for freedom to Hong Kong.

"Yesterday, our student association officially expressed our dissatisfaction to the University about this incident that humiliates Chinese people and called on the University to create a clean and pure learning environment," said a statement by the University of Tasmania Chinese Students and Scholars Association.
While the post did not explicitly state the group had asked the university to remove pro-Hong Kong materials, it is strongly implied.
The association, which operates at universities across Australia, claimed the materials contained exaggerated and false claims, and discriminated against and insulted Chinese students.
Some branches of the association have previously been linked to the Chinese consulate.
The statement said the association "firmly defends the 'one country two systems, Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong' unification policy. We firmly oppose any activity that aims to split China."

A spokesman for the University of Tasmania said, “The university has made it clear the removal of other students’ material is not appropriate.
“We are closely monitoring the situation and will work to safeguard future displays.
“We are in contact with student groups and organisations and are encouraging everyone to
approach the issue with respect for other members of the community, and respect for the
university’s values."
At Melbourne's Monash University, organisers of a mobile "Lennon Wall" – a colourful noticeboard where pro-Hong Kong protesters put Post-it notes expressing their opinions anonymously – say students speaking Mandarin got up close to try to film their faces with the aim of finding out their identities.

"One got a camera to record our faces. Some of us were pulling up the [Lennon Wall] boards to try and hide our faces. The second student tried to pull down the boards and show our faces," one organiser said.
"One of us tried to stop him and tried to get him away from us, and he just tried to grab the student and hit his back very hard.
He said one participant of the protest had made a police report after she was recognised and tracked down on social media where she had been insulted and had received calls from unknown numbers.
But he said their main concern was for mainland Chinese students who participated in the demonstration.
"There are some Chinese students on our side and now they are trying to find out who they are and find their addresses in China. We are so concerned about their safety, we are worried when they go back to China something will happen."

At the University of Sydney, students set up a Lennon Wall under the cover of darkness to avoid being identified.
"When we we were making the wall we we were doing it at night, wearing masks, because we were scared," one student involved said.
It was torn down by students speaking Mandarin and caught on video.

"A lot of people I know are quite against it [holding a protest], they're very cautious, out of fear mainly."
For Hong Kong students like himself, a key concern with being identified was that it could affect their future.
"The thing we're worried about is inevitably we'll be working in China and with China later and having our identities identified would disadvantage us."
A similar Lennon Wall was torn down at night at the University of Queensland. Meanwhile, at Australian National University, it was reported two Chinese students stood in front of a part of the Lennon Wall, preventing others from sticking notes to it.
On Wednesday, The Age and Sydney Morning Herald revealed Chinese authorities had approached the family of an international student who participated in high-profile protests at an Australian university and warned his parents of the potential consequences of political dissent.

Meanwhile, Chinese-language Australian media outlet Melbourne Today has reported a Chinese student studying in Australia was threatened after forwarding a video of the Monash protest, with a pro-China message, to some of his friends.
He said his phone number and social media handle were posted on a Hong Kong forum, and he woke up the next day to a message from a stranger containing personal details of him and his family members including real names, home and work addresses, and phone numbers.

https://archive.md/wip/EN9Fe

That is what temporary Chinese visitors are doing while here. God knows what those who heavily invest in property, business etc. are doing.

Heck, even one of our members of Parliament, Gladys Liu, has been linked to the CCP. Read this to see how our own Government was engaged in protecting her!

Gladys Liu's Beijing confession deepens dispute over loyalty

Liberal backbencher Gladys Liu has admitted she was a member of a Chinese government propaganda unit in a sudden shift in position that has deepened a dispute over her loyalty to Australia.

The federal government has closed ranks around the first-term Victorian MP, dismissing allegations of her links to Beijing as "offensive" as it was forced to mop up a disastrous television appearance where she could not answer questions over her ties to Beijing.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is facing calls from the opposition and cross bench to reassure the public that Ms Liu is a "fit and proper" person to be in Parliament, including questions about whether the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation should check on any links to the Chinese government.

Having previously denied any association, Ms Liu confirmed she was an honorary member of the Guangdong provincial chapter of the China Overseas Exchange Association between 2003 and 2015.

At that time the association was an arm of the Chinese government's central political and administrative body.

But the Hong Kong-born MP said people must not see "everything I do through the lens of my birthplace".

"I hope that they will see more than just the first Chinese woman elected to Parliament," Ms Liu said in a statement.

"I am a proud Australian, passionately committed to serving the people of Chisholm, and any suggestion contrary to this is deeply offensive."

She said she was now auditing any organisations who list her as a member without her knowledge or consent, saying some Chinese associations had appointed people to honorary positions without their permission.

"I do not wish my name to be used in any of these associations and I ask them to stop using my name," Ms Liu said.

Senior government figures are bracing for "more to come" in the saga, with experienced staff likely to be deployed to Ms Liu's office by the end of the week.

Ms Liu had not notified anyone in the government of her decision to appear on Sky News Australia with presenter Andrew Bolt to answer questions over her past associations raised by the ABC on Tuesday.

Foreign Minister Marise Payne said it was "offensive" to suggest that Ms Liu's previous associations suggested she was not fit and proper to sit in Parliament.

"The member is duly elected as the representative of the people of Chisholm," she said.

Labor's shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus accused Ms Liu of issuing a statement "written by the foreign minister" and said the the government had more questions to answer.

"We've got here, on its face, the potential for direct links between a newly elected Member of Parliament and the propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist Party," Mr Dreyfus told the ABC.

"It's not good enough because she needs to front the Parliament, as does the Prime Minister."

Mr Dreyfus said if spy agency ASIO had previously explored links between Chinese Communist Party propaganda arms and other members of state parliaments, the same scrutiny must be given to the every member of the federal Parliament.

Centre Alliance senator Rex Patrick said the revelations about Ms Liu were a "cause for serious concern" and said Mr Morrison should "seek advice from ASIO".

"She needs to think long and hard about her past connections and needs to be open and upfront about what occurred," Senator Patrick said.

Ms Liu said, as a new MP, she would be "learning from the experience".

She also clarified that she does not believe China is a democracy and reaffirmed her support for Australia's stance on its military expansion in the South China Sea.

"Last night in a TV interview I was not clear and I should have chosen my words better," she said.

"Australia's longstanding position on the South China Sea is consistent and clear. We do not take sides on competing territorial claims but we call on all claimants to resolve disputes peacefully and in accordance with international law."

Labor's foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong compared the situation with Liberal Party calls in 2017 to force out ex-ALP senator Sam Dastyari for his links with Chinese donors.

"I can recall the Liberal Party making Sam Dastyari a test for the Labor leadership. This is Scott Morrison's test."

https://archive.md/wip/ct25M