Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

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This will all end in tears, I just know it.
True & Honest Fan
For the interest of getting everyone up to speed, I'm going to go over the timeline of the Chinese Communist Party's origins & Communism.


Enter German poser-philosopher Karl Marx, born on 1818 in Rhineland and died on 1883 in London, a loser of epic biblical proportions: racist, self-loathing antisemitic Jew, pro-terrorist, two-faced snake, cherry-picking pseudo-scientist, academic failure, plagiarist, self-important narcissist, alcoholic, unwashed NEET slob, shameless & unabashed hypocrite, slave owner (his maid, Helen Demuth), adulterer (with his maid-slave), neglectful deadbeat dad of lovechild (with said maid-slave), & financial parasite of his friend to whom he had pawned his illegitimate kid onto, Communist Manifesto collaborator Friedrich Engels, whom of which owned a factory that financially supported jobless, anti-Capitalist Karl his whole life. He was also a French Revolution fanboy, as are all exceptional budding Communists. It probably goes without saying, but had Marx been alive today, he'd be a lolcow. He'd quite possibly have his own sub-forum.

Karl Marx is in large part responsible for creating the Communist ideology during the Industrial Revolution, an ideology which focuses on a perceived class struggle between wealthy property owners, the bourgeoisie, and the working class, the proletariat. This purported struggle is believed by Karl to be characterized by a term he coined, "alienation", in which a laborer becomes divorced from the product of their labor in Capitalism through the proxy sale of the objects they produce in exchange for a wage rather than a direct payment of the object's purchase value. Alienation in Marx speak also refers to the competition of workers between each other for promotions, creating adversaries among fellow workers & the absence of personal investment in the commodities created on an assembly line.

Communism dictates that private property be abolished, all property be communal and public, that employment and profit are exploitation, that labor should be entirely voluntary & yield no personal gain; all should give according to their ability and take according to their needs, & that factories, farms & other production methods should be centralized and public, and that people should all have a unified, identical social position.

Communism isn't just a socioeconomic theory, but also a philosophy that purports what Marx called "The March of History", wherein Capitalism is a temporary, transitional phase in human history that will "naturally" transition to Socialism & Communism through the violent overthrow of those in power under Capitalism. Where Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel believed that history was characterized by a conflict of ideas, Marx believes that it's characterized by what he calls "Dialectical Materialism", where history is characterized by conflict created by humanity's relationship to material goods. Marx also believed that humans prior to the rise of Capitalism were communal by nature, as in there were no familial distinctions, people didn't have private living quarters and there was no privately owned property; everything and everyone belonged to everybody & nobody at once.

For more information, see the Communist Manifesto.


Fast-forward to Mainland China between 1911 & 1912, the Qing dynasty had just spent the better part of the previous 300 years getting its ass kicked by every outside force that bothered to get off its laurels and take their lunch money, all while maintaining that they had heavenly mandate to remain in power & trying to restrict trade as an exercise of this power, pissing everybody off.

The decline of the Qing dynasty's power was a slow grind that experienced nothing but a losing streak, starting with the White Lotus rebellion of 1794, where the Qing dynasty would crush the rebellion in a Pyrrhic victory that didn't even fully get rid of the rebels.

Then came the Qing dynasty's most notorious defeat at the hands of the British at the height of the United Kingdom's imperial rule, the Opium Wars, where the refusal to trade with outsiders lead to the Chinese black markets being flooded with opium, gradually eroding China's workforce through mass drug addiction. When China tried to crack down on this epidemic, it kicked off into two consecutive slapfights that would result in the United Kingdom crushing Chinese forces with impunity through the use of their significantly superior firepower, causing the Qing dynasty to forfeit the Hong Kong region in a peace treaty to the United Kingdom, humiliating the once mighty Qing dynasty for all to see that they weren't the invasive strongmen of old, but had degenerated into a complacent, self-indulgent empire with delusions of grandeur. This humiliation caused all of China's fringe provinces to become tributaries to outside forces like France, Japan, Russia, Germany and the United Kingdom by the time of 1900.

Speaking of 1900, that's when the Boxer Rebellion, an anti-foreigner movement, kicked off and the Qing dynasty teamed up with the Boxers to try and fight off foreign influences, only to lose again, making them appear even weaker, having invested their own forces into backing a paramilitary movement and still losing. Prior to this, there was infighting in the Qing dynasty itself with Empress Dowager Cixi putting the kebosh on modernity reforms.

This loss and continued refusal to modernize anything was the final nail in the coffin for the Qing dynasty as the first professional rebel by the name of Sun-Yat Sen started moving and shaking his way to popularity, and the Qing dynasty responded by attempting histrionic censorship of the word "revolution" from historical documents. With that, any remaining perception of holding power and legitimacy would go down the drain, and the Qing dynasty would hold onto their frail power for another decade before the 6 year-old emperor Puyi was deposed from power as a result of the Xinhai Revolution & Wuchang Uprising in which 18 provinces voted to secede from the Qing dynasty, causing Sun-Yat Sen to assume power as the first president of the now newly formed Republic of China, only to immediately relinquish it to Yuan Shikai, leader of the Beiyang Army.

Enter the exceptional clusterfuck of the Republic of China (Not to be confused with the People's Republic of China) that would both mirror the revolutions in Russia & likewise set the stage for the rise of the Chinese Communist Party.

Song Jiaoren, the then leader of Sun-Yat Sen's political party, the Kuomintang, had won the election for presidency in December 1912. Song was then assassinated by the Beiyang Army on direct orders of Yuan Shikai, the sitting president of China. This regime was known as the Beiyang government. Then Yuan Shikai made the exceptional decision of declaring himself Emperor of China, only to immediately abdicate and die after the inevitable civil unrest, tearing open a Goatse-hole power vacuum that resulted in the Beiyang government becoming even weaker with the brief return of the Qing dynasty. It was at this time that the Beiyang Army fell into infighting and subdividing into individual groups claiming to have autonomy from the main body of the Beiyang Army, making them even weaker. This kicked off some shit by the badass name of the Warlord Era from 1916 to 1928 where authority was divided up between the Beiyang Army, ex-military cliques and farmer JoJo down the street. The Kuomintang had decided to contest the Beiyang army's legitimacy and with that all bets were off.

See, during The First Sino-Japanese war from 25 July 1894 to 17 April 1895 and Russo-Japanese War from 8 February 1904 to 5 September 1905, the Japanese had already achieved a measure of control in Northern China, but when the Qing dynasty fell, Japan saw an opportunity to exploit the nascent Republic of China during World War One and drafted some bullshit called the Twenty-One Demands that would give them even more power in China. The reason why they swung their nuts around like they owned the place is because they had just curb stomped Germany in November 1914, whom had controlled the Shandong province since 1898, so now they felt entitled to even more of China's property. It just so happens that Duan Qirui of those Beiyang faggots gave it to them. Obviously, the idea of giving up more territory to the Japanese after deposing their emperor over that very same issue pissed Chinese nationals off immensely.

The Warlord Era was one big ongoing civil war by different groups bidding for power over mainland China, the biggest conflict being one by the badass name of the Central Plains War, which involved a million people. This era came to a close when Kuomintang leader Chiang Kai-shek, or Chinese Kai Shrek for fun, finally managed to unify China under one flag in the culmination of the Northern Expedition, but didn't bother getting their shit in gear to crush the gang scum that were competing with them for power during the Warlord Era, so now you still have bitter resentment from old rivals who still wield control and influence over certain provinces in China. This era of calm before the shitstorm would be informally called the Nanjing decade.

This complacency would ultimately kick them in the balls when the Japanese decided to nut-up and invade them during World War 2, which gave the old Warlord Era gangs and newly formed guerrilla upstarts the incentive to go back to warring it out for supremacy while the Japanese raped Nanking, forcing the Kuomintang to hold both the Imperialist Japanese armies at bay with one hand and the Chinese Communist Party, the Kuomintang's former allies, at bay with the other.


Enter our man of the hour, Mao Zedong, born on 1893 in Shaoshan, Hunan and died on 1976 in Beijing. Born to a devout Buddhist mother and abusive asshole Father (from whom he probably adopted his sadism, a common trend among Commie dictators (Hitler, Stalin, ect.) more on that later) the latter of which was previously an impoverished peasant turned successful farmer.

Mao would join the army during the Xinhai revolution in support of Sun Yat-sen and then resign after six months of service as a non-combatant. From there on, Mao would be in and out of several different schools until he settled on Changsha Middle School where he would write revolutionary pieces for news papers & become a teacher. He was even elected to be the commander of a student army to defend the school from marauders, like something out of a shonen animu. After that incident, Mao became interested in general warfare and studied World War One.

So between 1919 and 1920, it's at this time we come to the turning point in Mao Zedong's revolutionary career, the day he encountered full-fledged Communist literature from Thomas Kirkup, Karl Kautsky, and a Chinese translation of the Communist Manifesto.

However, it wasn't until Mao met up with Chen Duxiu, one of his idols, that he converted to Marxism fully, because Chen Duxiu had just converted to Marxism himself.

It was now in 1921 that the Chinese Communist Party was finally formed by Chen Duxiu in the French concession of Shanghai. Mao would make his own branch in Changsha, then run around starting bookstores and continuing his revolutionary work to get a constitution for civil liberties in Hunan, only to forget he was even involved at all after it had succeeded. He also continued his work as an educator by joining the YMCA Mass Education Movement in which he would edit textbooks to include revolutionary propaganda.

Mao would attend the first and third sessions of the National Congress of the Chinese National Party in which all the Marxists from the corners of China, members of the Kuomintang party, and even Russian delegates, would come together. It was here that Lenin's goons suggested that the CCP should join forces with the bourgeois democrats of the Kuomintang party, which the CCP initially rejected but came to accept.

At the third congress, Mao would be elected to the Party Committee, then at the Kuomintang conference in 1924, Mao was elected as an alternate member Kuomintang Central Executive Committee, and put forth four resolutions to decentralize power to rural and urban bureaus.

In late 1923, Mao would relocate to Shaoshan and found that the local peasants had overthrown local landowners and made themselves a hippy commune. This incident convinced Mao that appealing to the peasantry was the key to achieving Communism a revolution in China, something the Kuomintang agreed with but not the CCP. From here, Mao would go to Guangzhou to administer military training to peasants under the Kuomintang's Peasant Movement Training Institute, but would end up having to run when his training activity would draw the eye of Zhao's regional authorities.

Then something would happen that would create the beginnings of the rift between the previously aligned Kuomintang & Chinese Communist Party, Sun Yat-sen died and Chiang Kai-shek came into power. With that, Chinese Shrek decided to purge the Commies out of the Kuomintang party. However, at this time they would remain allies and Mao would continue to back Kai-Shrek's National Revolutionary Army into the two-phase Northern Expedition in 1926 against the Beyaing Army and Fengtian-clique.

This purge of Commies from the Kuomintang would cause a greater schism in the Kuomintang that consisted of Shrek loyalists and the Wuhan lefties lead by Wang Jingwei. To try and amend this schism, Kai-Shrek would step down as leader of the Kuomintang and exile himself to Japan. Then Chiang would come back & resume command in 1928 for the second phase of the Northern Expedition.

Meanwhile, some Japan-backed warlord named Zhang Zuolin and the Fengtian-clique had actually managed to capture Beijing in 1926 against the Zhili-clique in what was known as the Second Zhili-Fenction War, and there were rumors he was going to declare himself Emperor. It should be noted that if it weren't for Zhang's victory over the Zhili-clique that the Zhili-clique would've moved to crush the Kuomintang while they were still getting their shit together, so by deposing the Zhili-clique he actually set up his own demise when he had to flee during the second phase of the Northern Expedition and was later assassinated by a railroad bomb planted by the Japanese. Zhang Xueliang, Zuolin's son, would come into power in the Fengtian-clique and declare surrender to the Kuomintang in 1928. With the Fentian-clique deposed, the Kuomintang had finally assumed power over mainland China and thus began the Nanjing decade I mentioned before.

It was during the time of the Northern Expedition that peasants rose up and slaughtered landowners wholesale, which pissed off the Kuomintang since they themselves were landowners as well, marking a period of class divide between rich and poor in China at the pinnacle of the Kuomintang's power.

In March of 1927, Mao would tip his hand and his pragmatic morals would rear their ugly head, where he advocated for the death penalty for counter-revolutionary activity, marking the first occasion of Mao acting like an authoritarian. In April 1927, Mao was appointed to the five member Central Land Committee under the Kuomintang, and from there he would urge peasants to stop paying rent to land owners, stipulating that anyone found to be owning four and a half acres that housed 13% of the population were counter-revolutionaries, meaning they get the bullet for the crime of succeeding. When he brought his extremist ideas to the Committee, they held reservations about wanton murder of people whose only crime up until that point was getting ahead, and only implemented a few of his ideas. Eventually, however, Mao would get everything he wanted.

Introducing the Chinese Civil War, where Chiang Kai-shek would turn traitor on the CCP hot off the victory of the Northern Expedition and have 25,000 of them slaughtered in an event known by the badass name as the White Terror in April 12, 1927. During this event, 19 CCP leaders would be slain by Zhang Zuolin, allegedly, before his assassination. At the fifth CCP congress, Mao had a change of heart regarding his support of the Kuomintang (Yeah, no shit) and decided to put all his stock into the peasantry to bolster his numbers.

Enter the Chinese Communist Party-founded Workers' and Peasants' Red Army of China, more colloquially known as the Red Army. Mao was eventually appointed Commander in Chief of the Chinese Red Army after a devastating defeat in Fujian following their retreat from the Nanchang Uprising. Mao would then rally a peasant army and try to fight the Kuomintang in Changsha, only to retreat to the mountains Jiggangshan, where he was formally disowned by the Central Committee proper for raising his own army while hypocritically adopting his policies of land seizures. Of course Mao would just blow them off and continue working as usual.

This is where Mao's sadistic side would come into its own, when he "re-educated" and executed land owners, he rallied the peasants and even two bandit groups into his army. It should be noted that at this point, other members of the CCP saw Mao as being weak, lenient & too moderate, so much so that they declared him anti-revolutionary. After trying to kill him, his loyalists would torture and kill some 3,000 dissenters, and the CCP Committee would move into Jiangxi believing it to be a good stronghold and declaring it a sovereign state called the "Soviet Republic of China" and then appoint the man they tried to murder the title of Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars. However, at that time, Mao's power was siphoned away to some nobody called Zhou Enlai while he recovered from tuberculosis.

It was at this time that the Kuomintang decided to purge the Commies once and for all with an encirclement of annihilation. These attempts failed so hard that Chiang Kai-shek himself would deign himself to coming to the battle-field in person to get the job done. Then World War 2 were declared and Chiang had to go deal with the Japanese in Manchurian, so you have the Japanese to thank for saving the Chinese Communist Party. It was at this point that Mao and the CCP would start consolidating their forces, so much so that Chiang had to redirect his attention back onto the CCP as he viewed them to be the bigger threat at the time, and then attempted another encirclement paired with carpet bombing raids, which didn't kill them but did make them starve, leaving them no choice but to run for the hills.

Enter the Long March, and when they settled in the city of Zunyi in 1935, the group held a conference to name Mao chairman of the Political Bureau of the CCP, making him both the de facto leader of both the Communist Party and the Red Army, with his candidacy even being support by Joseph Stalin.

Fast-forward to the party's arrival at Yan'an, a bombed out crap hole where Mao would theorize and bolster his power as Chinese people came far and wide, dissatisfied with the Kuomintang party's inability to repel the Japanese. It was here that Mao would let his true self cut loose by doing away with the egalitarian utopia and firmly establishes a hierarchy with himself as supreme leader (as if he didn't already have this clout but whatever), from here on in Yan'an, everything was graded by this hierarchy whereby certain tiers of people would receive certain rations, housing & clothes, with himself getting the best of everything. He then opens himself up to public criticism to bait out early dissidents so he can torture a confession out of them by proxy of his thugs while he watches from a distance, like a pervert voyeur. This would come to be known as the Rectification Movement.

The most notable victim was Wang Shiwei, who was considered the voice of the dissatisfaction the new arrivals had with Mao's outpost, where Shiwei would have his knees bent backward on a tiger bench, Mao's favorite torture method. With this, Mao is able to force Shiwei into giving a fake confession to being a Kuomintang spy and implicate other people to a conspiracy to overthrow Mao. Shiwei would speak out about the torture years later, only to be executed for his truthful wrong-speech.

Even with his skeptics being traumatized into kowtowing to his authority, thrown out Yan'an or just killed, it's at this point that Mao has realized that his Red Army wouldn't be enough to repel the Japanese should they get involved, and with the encouragement of Stalin, he begrudgingly sent a telegram to the Military Council of the Nanking National Government asking for an alliance with the Kuomintang. Chiang Kai-shek rejected it but was arrested by one of his own generals, Zhang Xueliang, and forced to talk terms with the Communist Party, thus resulting in a new alliance called the United Front in which the Kuomintang and the Commies would combine their forces to push the Japanese out.

Totally didn't matter once the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki though, lol.

Until then though, the Japanese were so brutal and inhuman in their actions that more and more people joined the fight against them, and having just been granted a degree of legitimacy from the Republic of China's government, the Red Army swelled to 500,000 members, and once the Japanese were defeated in the end of World War Two, the Chinese Civil War resumed with the newly minted People's Liberation Army under Mao's control. Now that the CCP finally had enough bodies to make a sizable difference in the conflict against a now weakened Kuomintang, as opposed to being bailed out by an outside force every time they're caught with their pants down, Mao would pull the same medieval encirclement shit Chiang Kai-shek pulled on him and starved out 160,000 people in the city of Changchun for a period of six months. Queue up a couple of decisive battle between that People's Liberation Army and the Kuomintang and Chiang Kai-shek is forced to flee for Taiwan.

Now with all the old dynasties, warlords, invaders and Republican's out of his way, Mao would finally seize control of mainland China in 1949, proclaiming the new government of the People's Republic of China at the Gate of Heavenly Peace, and with it comes China's darkest hour. It is said that on the day he assumed power, Mao would show signs of PTSD and trembled at the sight of a stranger.

Even if you knew nothing about China's pre-Communist history and only had a foggy idea of who Mao Zedong is, everything going forward is shit you've probably at least heard about in passing or on TV.

Fast-motherfuckin'-forward to the Great Leap Forward, where Mao brings the Industrial Revolution to China by buying ready-made factories from Russians and paying them back in grains grown by peasants, essentially breaking one of the core tenants of Communism over his knee from the outset by committing trade.

He of course achieves this, hypocritically so, by outlawing private enterprise (and property) and makes everything state property, including the meager personal belongings of the peasants he once had fight for him. Mao then forces collectivization down the throats of these peasants, making them live in shitty cramped quarters with each other. Their lives are so stripped of autonomy that they won't receive rations without hitting quotas, but no growing food for yourself. This means if you're too old, too young, pregnant or sick, you're condemned to death despite supposedly living in a Heavenly Mandated utopia where everything is collectivist. This kicks off a huge famine that only gets worse and compounds exponentially when peasants fall behind their quotas.

Meanwhile Mao gets to eat to his heart's content.

Of course, Mao, an intellectual, decides the rapidly worsening famines can't be the fault of his exceptional quota policy, but rather the fault of sparrows eating the crops. Mao Ze-Dong, a man who's well read in evolutionary theory, decides to decimate a cornerstone species by issuing a dictate that all sparrows need to be killed. Of course, now there's a blight of fucking locusts the following year because there's no longer a natural predator to eat the bugs that devastate China's crops way harder than the birds ever could.

And with that, in just ten short years, 40 million people starve to death. But lol just ignore that shit, have the press tell everyone that the Great Leap Forward is an unmitigated success, with Mao keeping the real statistics close to his chest because he's a career militarist politician and he knows that his image is all that matters. This political obfuscation is so effective that even top CCP officials can't come out and criticize Mao for failing because there is no public opposition against Mao.

Enter Liu Shaoqi, vice chairman of the CCP and compatriot of Mao since the Long March, who would broach the subject to Mao in July 1959, during a CCP conference. He got up in front of everyone, spoke about the famine, and suggested maybe fixing that shit, embarrassing Mao to everyone else in the room, naively contradicting the Great Leap Forward narrative. Of course Mao just wants to put a bullet in Liu's head then and there, but realizes that it would look cutthroat and ruthless to the other members who were already beginning to question his efficacy as a ruler. So instead, he reassigns Liu to some low tier administrative position where he'll be kept at a distance from the top echelon party members to slowly erode their fondness of Liu and weaken Liu's influence on the party.

Not one to be Caesar'd by his own stoolies, Mao Zedong takes Liu's naked opposition to him as a sign of what more there is to come, and preemptively strikes with his second great crime against humanity.

Enter the Cultural Revolution. The Cultural Revolution was characterized by a purge of "bourgeois" thinking that he claimed lingered in older generations, claiming he wants everyone to practice true-Communist thought, with him at the helm of dictating what this correct mode of thought is. In other words, Mao started an ageist, anti-intellectual hate movement that would involve the harassment, shaming & killing of academics, intellectuals and teachers like himself.

To achieve this, Mao releases his book, Quotations from Mao Tse Tung. This was one of Mao's most critical bids to secure his lifetime of power going forward by making himself a brain-virus that infects China's youth as a cult of personality, while simultaneously making these same youths reject other authority figures as counter-revolutionary. These teenagers would come to be known as the Red Guard. The Red Guard would go on to murder the top 2 million educated people in China nation-wide.

The Cultural Revolution had the dictate of purging the Four Olds: Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Ideas. If that sounds vague as fuck then congrats, you understand Mao's intent perfectly. The Four Olds were designed to be blanket terms to be applied to whatever Mao disapproved of as his master key to purging whoever he didn't like. Basically, every move Mao made after Liu embarrassed him was a calculated measure to make the whole country culpable in his eventual purge of the CCP itself.

Hundreds of thousands of party officials are purged, and now Mao can make his move on Liu himself, but not before smearing him in the press, publicly shaming him, and then tortured in a prison cell for the rest of his life. Mao was such a sadistic exceptional individual that he even had Liu's final moments filmed so he could beat off like a degenerate take personal satisfaction watching Liu die in a pile of his own shit for disrespecting him all those years before.

Thankfully Mao would eventually get his, by 1970, Mao's mental faculties began to fail him. By 1972, a meeting of two scumbags, Mao and Nixon, would commence. On Nixon's side, he wanted to bring an end to the Vietnam war and sought help from China, whereas Mao wanted help resisting pressure from the Soviet Union, and then an unholy relationship between the United States and Maost China was born out of pure mutual hypocrisy. Nixon and others would note that while the near-octogenarian Mao could still understand what was spoken to him, he was slow to form a response.

In 1974, Mao is rendered unintelligible to all but his personal nurse, and he had fully lost the capacity for speech of any kind by the time of his heart attack-induced death in 1976, at the age of 82, having been in power for 27 years.


Fast forward to Hong Kong, 1997. Up until this point, Hong Kong was only leased to the United Kingdom, not owned, and their lease was expiring. The United Kingdom didn't have a choice but to relinquish it, as the CCP were threatening to march their army on Hong Kong and take it back by force, which had the potential of kicking off World War Three if they weren't careful with their actions should they have to deal with such an invasion. So the United Kingdom gave back Hong Kong to China, marking the end of the United Kingdom's imperial empire.

The retrieval of Hong Kong showed the Chinese Communist Party something they haven't seen before, prosperity. While mainland Communist China languished in poverty for nearly 50 years, Hong Kong flourished during the past 155 years because they had free trade and laissez faire capitalism, and had become one of the top economies in the world as a result. This was a huge slap in the face for the CCP, but it's not as if they can just dissolve the government or convince everyone to reform to a capitalist state, and who would be willing to relinquish the power that the CCP held anyway?

Nevertheless, the economic viability that Hong Kong demonstrated could not be ignored, and China had already been manufacturing goods for outside countries since the 1980's anyway since Mao's meeting with Nixon, so a compromise was made & the CCP would then open up "economic zones" across mainland China to bolster their economic might. The country was still overwhelmingly Communist but these economic zones were considered a worthy experiment nonetheless.


Skip forward to today, Xi Jinping, Winnie the Pooh impersonator extraordinaire, is the sitting chairman of the Chinese Communist Party. They now "rival" the United States economically (nowhere close to militarily, however) and even bought a shitload of U.S. debt from the 2008 housing crisis. Modern China is now a dystopian nightmare from a science fiction book, where the internet is closed off to the outside world, all speech is censored, there's now such a thing as a social credit score that can prohibit you from using public services if you happen to have a low score, everyone inside China's getting spied on and those who speak against the CCP disappear like they were never there. The CCP also keeps concentration camps for Uyghur Muslims to be reeducated and to have their organs harvested. There's even a gay scoreboard in your local Chinese neighborhood where people who jaywalk have their photos displayed.

But that's not all, not content to just fuck with their own people, the Chinese Communist Party seek to fuck with everyone else, doing their best to spy on and control the free speech of other nations and spy on their citizens (TikTok) and making celebrities their personal shills. It's a not-so-well-known fact that Hollywood was injected with Russia-style Communists during the Cold War, and many of their Hollywood sympathizers may have switched over to the Chinese Communist Party, while neutral Hollywood studios are now forced to kowtow to Chinese standards if they want their movies to play in Chinese theaters, so there's that. Then there's China's Belt and Road initiative, which is totally an imperialist and super-fucking-hypocritical move on their part but they don't care. The Belt and Road Initiative is a sleazy land seizure ploy to lend out money to impoverished nations like the African nations to build local infrastructure on loaned money, and if these poverty-stricken countries can't pay back, they come in and seize ownership of a foreign country's land.
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ALWAYS USE ONLINE PROTECTION. Because you aren't just hiding from the US government (Which is one of the better governments), but you're hiding from foreign intelligence agencies, such as China's MSS. This alone should have the US government telling its citizens to use VPNs and TOR, but unfortunately they don't.
They aggregate data from hundreds of millions of americans to determine the best means of informational control, and to form a "bigger picture" of the global scene. Statistical analysis. TikTok is of course the most prominent example, but they have other, more secret methods of spying... Let me tell you know that if you think the US is bad, you DO NOT want China to take the global lead. You are all considered enemies of the Chinese state for even being on this website alone, and you'll be 1984'd in a heartbeat. You aren't Chinese, but you can bet you have a social credit score in their government datacenters.
Use Linux. Use a VPN/TOR. Use uMatrix and HTTPS Everywhere. Encrypt and backup your shit. Don't use hardware from Chinese companies. Don't use Chinese software such as Opera, TikTok, and other mainstream software applications that belong to Huawei and Tencent.
They've infiltrated the CIA, the DoD, universities, and research facilities. Their plan is to seize control for themselves, and they're doing this covertly over a long period of time, and you can bet there are many more of these spies undetected. This isn't a exceptional Donald Trump China boogeyman meme, this is very real.

That is all. Preparation.
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This will all end in tears, I just know it.
True & Honest Fan
Holy shit, how long did it take you to type all that out?

I think it's funny that communism has worked out/lasted as long as it had in Asian countries.
Everything other than Mao's personal history was stuff that was already known to me. I'd say maybe a few hours.

Sorry if it seems ridiculous but I wanted to make sure to make a quality and informative OP to streamline any newbies who might not know anything about Communism or Communist China into the discussion.

I originally included more minutia from Mao's early life, like his school rebellion against Zhang the Venomous, but had to truncate it because I was 5,000 characters over the limit.

I would post a documentary discussing all of it but none go into detail of what China was like prior to the rise of Communism or WW2.


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It was the 1930s.

An ambitious Captain of the United States Army Air Corps known as Claire Lee Chennault was keenly aware of how his superiors wanted to shift the path of aircraft development from interception and dogfighting to high-altitude precision bombing and dedicated his career to advocating this. Needless to say, this cost him a few chances at getting promoted and he was forced to retire because of the military's "up or out" policy. In June of 1937, he found employment as an aviation instructor for China's fledgling air force, which was destined to be slaughtered over the skies of China. Fortunately for Chennault, his superior, Madame Chiang, managed to give a good recommendation about him to her husband, China Shrek, on assembling an squadron or two of international pilots. The Russians have discreetly pitched in a few groups of fighters and bomber crews; the Americans, have yet to be organized.

In 1940, Chennault and a Chinese general flew to Washington D.C. to work out the legal details of purchasing quality aircraft to supplement the inept Chinese air force. Hands were shaken and deals were made. The result? An shipment of 100 P-40B Warhawks set to arrive in Burma by the spring of 1941, along with a loan to China. The only thing that was missing is a few dozen pilots who were foolhardy enough to fly them...And a set of radios for the P-40Bs since that wasn't included in the design.

This is where the American Volunteer Group came in. Originally founded from 100 pilots (who were initially reserve pilots to exploit an legal loophole) and a ground crew of 200 who were smuggled to Burma on the guise of tourists and farmers, After establishing an early-warning network (another of Chennault's preachings) and training the ragtag bunch of greenhorns, the mercenaries were ready to fly in November of 1941. Their mission to defend the Burma Road, one of China's lasts links to the outside world, from the invading Japanese. With two squadrons based at Kunming, China and a third at Mingaladon Airport; the board was set and it wouldn't take long for the action to start.

On December 20th, 1941 the Imperial Japanese Army sent 10 Kawasaki Ki-48s to bomb the shit out of Kunming without sending in a wave of escorts. The Tigers responded by simply showing up in the skies. Apparently, the Japanese bomber crews were collectively shitting bricks, as evidenced by the planes jettisoning their payloads and retreating back to where they came.

An slaughtering happens.

A bomber explodes from an Tiger continuously shooting at it.

Two more Ki-48s are shot down in the frenzy and a fourth crash lands before it lands at Hanoi.

The reports eventually come in that only one of the bombers actually made it back on the runway and Chennault is pissed at his men for being too aggressive. More importantly, the Japanese are also ticked off at the opposition that they're facing; but they decided to focus their efforts on Rangoon as opposed to losing another flight of aircraft. Subsequent raids had the Americans working alongside an token effort from the Royal Air Force to defend the port from an mixed composition of bombers of varying grades and their fighter escorts. And despite their best efforts, the bombs were hitting their targets and attrition was taking it's toll on the AVG's spare planes; but not without the Japanese losing an sizable number of planes.. As the weeks passed, it was still the same dance: Allied forces were taking a beating on the ground, the Tigers lose the occasional plane in the sky, and the Japanese Army gets their wings clipped. But this wouldn't last forever.

By February of 1942, the British had withdrawn from the area as they got overrun by the Imperial Japanese Army in the Burmese jungles and they took Chennault's advance warning system with them. After an brief and grueling stint at the British airfield in Magwe the Tigers were pushed farther north, this time, into China.

Armed with a new shipment of P-40Es and maintaining an airbase out of Loiwing on April 8th, the loss of ground didn't deter the Tigers from their duties, but the politically enforced "morale flights" did. Any pilot who was worth his salt knew that running air support over an jungle without any degree of information from the ground was an suicide run. But they did anyways to appease the Chinese as their soldiers were killed off as the air show went on overhead. But despite the Tigers maintaining their outstanding KDA, they were forced to retreat farther inland before the month was over.

They settled down in the province of Baoshan, where the Americans spent the rest of their career as mercenaries. Highlights include a squadron leader and his wingmen bombing the hell out of an pontoon bridge, causing a landslide to annihilate an Japanese convoy, and the occasional suicide mission against an AA battery sponsored by, you guessed it, one of China Shrek's generals. It cost the life of an newlywed pilot, IIRC. And before anyone asks, yes, the P-40E was an fighter-bomber due to the addition of an set of bomb racks. Conveniently enough, the Chinese had no shortage of 500 lb bombs for it. At this point, the Burmese campaign was winding down and the U.S. government opinion had started to sway towards establishing a foothold in China. The Tigers managed to get the last laugh in by routinely raiding Japanese airfields that were in Vietnam and being branded as war criminals by Tokyo Rose.

The Tigers' final flights consisted of fighting over airfields that could be used an staging ground against mainland Japan. But this never really came to fruition because they were disbanded on July 4th, 1942 and the military took over as the 23rd Fighter Group, with Chennault at the helm and a handful of other pilots staying with him. The 23rd had an widened region of responsibility and is mostly credited with destroying bridges, successfully providing ground support for the Chinese and shooting down over 600 aircraft. In comparison, the Tigers shot down 296 enemy aircraft, while losing only 14 pilots in combat without the backbone of the American war machine behind them.

On a final note, the People's Republic of China kind of hates Chennault for publicly siding with the nationalists during the Chinese civil war. But the hatred died out a few decades ago and without him, China's death toll would undoubtedly be higher at the hands of the Japanese.
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I read the whole thing. Admirable. If I were your editor, I'd suggest making it more chronological, since you kinda do a time skip early on there. And did you mean to say that Chiang went to Vietnam instead of Taiwan? And was butchering Xi's name a joke that went over my head?

We look at communism and communists through a modern lens and wonder why anyone would support it. A similar question would be, if Marx and Engels were German, how come their ideas didn't take off in Germany or other places in western Europe, but did in Russia and China? The two places had something quite in common when the Communists took over; they were effectively still feudal societies with leadership that look at this "industrial modernization" and "free elections" stuff as a major threat to their power. Russia still had a literal monarchy with only a rubber-stamp elected legislature and the Republic of China government was dictatorial in the areas it had strong control over (the other areas were controlled by warlords). So you hear about this Mao guy and how he wants to free you from serfdom and slavery on one hand and an authoritarian state on the other, and when his troops pass through, they don't sequester your crops and rape your daughters like the less-disciplined RoC troops did, so maybe he gets your support. And then he comes to power and it turns out he's just as authoritarian as the other guys but a lot more efficient at it, but it's too late by then. However, the Kuomintang still ruled the Republic of China on Taiwan as a one-party state that had no free elections until the early '90s. They were not Commies but that doesn't mean they had much interest in free and open governance.

Between Mao and Xi was Deng Xiaoping, and that's a name you should know. Deng was the leader during the '80s. That means he watched over the Tiananmen Square Pleasant Exchange of Ideas, but it also means he led the party in adopting "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" - capitalism wrapped in socialist rhetoric. There's no denying modern China is largely a free-market capitalist economy and Deng is to thank for that - the reforms he spearheaded have lifted possibly hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of abject poverty and probably saved just as many lives. The cynic can also imagine it saved the CCP from facing an eventual USSR-like collapse.

Long live the Chinese dream!


This will all end in tears, I just know it.
True & Honest Fan
And was butchering Xi's name a joke that went over my head?
No, I got the letters in his name mixed up. Fixed.
And did you mean to say that Chiang went to Vietnam instead of Taiwan? And was butchering Xi's name a joke that went over my head?
Could've sworn it was Vietnam, but if it's wrong I'll fix it.

DJ Grelle

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Is this thread meant to focus on the history of communist china or on the ins and outs of the modern chinese communist party?


This will all end in tears, I just know it.
True & Honest Fan
Is this thread meant to focus on the history of communist china or on the ins and outs of the modern chinese communist party?
The OP is meant to be an introduction for the uninitiated into the modern happenings of the Chinese Communist Party. If you want to talk about the group's history that's fine too since it gives context to the current state of China's government.
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