Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Random Internet Person]

LMAO boycotting FMA over someone in the running for biggest piece of shit in all of history. Just imagine it.

That’s China. Xi has brought back the cult of personality aspect that’s been missing for a long time.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

This lying flat movement is a ray of hope for the end of Chinese Communist/Capitalist tyranny. Lie flat do nothing don’t participate in the crazy rat race. This is brilliant with a nice added sense of humour for potency which is why it scares the dictatorial CCP enough to clamp down on such a movement. What can they do to correct this apathy? By definition the CCP is the party of the people but if the people stop believing in the CCP it inevitably collapses like in the Soviet Union if the people no longer want to work for it. They are scared about their demographic collapse due to the one child policy but they have made it too difficult for their young people to achieve 3 child families and for what to keep the party bureaucracy ticking along, no your time is going to come Xi.

Edit: to quote Slavoj Zizek “the most radical thing to do is to do nothing.”

Spoiler: Doing Nothing = Violence

Better to do nothing than to engage in localized acts whose ultimate function is to make the system run more smoothly. The threat today is not passivity, but pseudo-activity, the urge to "be active", to "participate", to mask the Nothingness of what goes on. People intervene all the time, "doing something"; academics participate in meaningless "debates," etc.; but the truly difficult thing is to step back, to withdraw from it all. Those in power often prefer even "critical" participation or a critical dialogue to silence, since to engage us in such a "dialogue" ensures that our ominous passivity is broken. The "Bartlebian act" I propose is violent precisely insofar as it entails ceasing this obsessive activity-in it, violence and non-violence overlap (non-violence appears as the highest violence), likewise activity and inactivity (the most radical thing is to do nothing).

Slavoj Žižek, In Defense of Lost Causes

 

[Random Internet Person]

This lying flat movement is a ray of hope for the end of Chinese Communist/Capitalist tyranny. Lie flat do nothing don’t participate in the crazy rat race. This is brilliant with a nice added sense of humour for potency which is why it scares the dictatorial CCP enough to clamp down on such a movement. What can they do to correct this apathy? By definition the CCP is the party of the people but if the people stop believing in the CCP it inevitably collapses like in the Soviet Union if the people no longer want to work for it. They are scared about their demographic collapse due to the one child policy but they have made it too difficult for their young people to achieve 3 child families and for what to keep the party bureaucracy ticking along, no your time is going to come Xi.

Edit: to quote Slavoj Zizek “the most radical thing to do is to do nothing.”

Spoiler: Doing Nothing = Violence

Slavoj Žižek, In Defense of Lost Causes

Sounds like something I’d see from South Park or Rick and Morty. Can’t wait to hear how the government will crush this one.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

Sounds like something I’d see from South Park or Rick and Morty. Can’t wait to hear how the government will crush this one.

They will start encouraging their citizens to start taking drugs for compliance or through some bio-genetics program create the new man which will be some Frankenstein monster made in a test tube that will serve as the new proletariat for the CCP. The CCP has no ethics in science and I wouldn’t put it past them to alter the genetic code of mankind for their purposes. As crazy as that sounds bio genetics is a real thing on our collective horizons. Everyone laughs when Alex Jones brings it up but he isn’t entirely off base. One of Stalin’s scientists thought he could cross breed chimps and humans to make a servile slave race so with today’s technology and brute authoritarian atheism in the CCP I wonder if this sort of thing is a real possibility.

Edit: I like this to quote Zizek again from an interview. I am curious about more info on the subject.

https://gizmodo.com/slavoj-zizek-wake-up-and-smell-the-apocalypse-5627925

Spoiler: China Bio-genetics

Another of your "horsemen" is research into biogenetics. What's your problem with that?

Craig Venter may dream of creating the first "trillion-dollar organisms" - patented bugs excreting biofuels, generating clean energy or producing tailor-made food. There are, of course, more sinister possibilities: for example, synthesising new viruses or other pathogens.

But I think the problem runs deeper in many ways. For example, such extreme genetic engineering will create substantially different organisms: we'll find ourselves in a terrain full of unknowns. These dangers are made worse by the absence of public control, so profiteering industrialists can tinker with the building blocks of life without any democratic oversight.

You were in China recently and got a glimpse of what's happening in biogenetics there.

In the west, we have debates about whether we should intervene to prevent disease or use stem cells, while the Chinese just do it on a massive scale. When I was in China, some researchers showed me a document from their Academy of Sciences which says openly that the goal of their biogenetic research is to enable large-scale medical procedures which will "rectify" the physical and physiological weaknesses of the Chinese people.

Do these issues arise from problems about what humans are becoming, and the relationships between the public and the private?

Yes. These are problems of the commons, the resources we collectively own or share. Nature is commons, biogenetics is genetic commons, intellectual property is commons. So how did Bill Gates become the richest man on earth? We are paying him rent. He privatised part of the "general intellect", the social network of communication - it's a new enclosure of the commons. This has given a new boost to capitalism, but in the long term it will not work. It's out of control.

Take a bottle of water: I produce it, you buy it. If I drink it, you cannot. Knowledge is exactly the opposite. If it freely circulates, it doesn't lose value; if anything, it gains value. The problem for companies is how to prevent the free circulation of knowledge. Sometimes they spend more money and time trying to prevent free copying than on developing products.

 

[Random Internet Person]

They will start encouraging their citizens to start taking drugs for compliance or through some bio-genetics program create the new man which will be some Frankenstein monster made in a test tube that will serve as the new proletariat for the CCP. The CCP has no ethics in science and I wouldn’t put it past them to alter the genetic code of mankind for their purposes. As crazy as that sounds bio genetics is a real thing on our collective horizons. Everyone laughs when Alex Jones brings it up but he isn’t entirely off base. One of Stalin’s scientists thought he could cross breed chimps and humans to make a servile slave race so with today’s technology and brute authoritarian atheism in the CCP I wonder if this sort of thing is a real possibility.

Edit: I like this to quote Zizek again from an interview. I am curious about more info on the subject.

https://gizmodo.com/slavoj-zizek-wake-up-and-smell-the-apocalypse-5627925

Spoiler: China Bio-genetics

Another of your "horsemen" is research into biogenetics. What's your problem with that?

Craig Venter may dream of creating the first "trillion-dollar organisms" - patented bugs excreting biofuels, generating clean energy or producing tailor-made food. There are, of course, more sinister possibilities: for example, synthesising new viruses or other pathogens.

But I think the problem runs deeper in many ways. For example, such extreme genetic engineering will create substantially different organisms: we'll find ourselves in a terrain full of unknowns. These dangers are made worse by the absence of public control, so profiteering industrialists can tinker with the building blocks of life without any democratic oversight.

You were in China recently and got a glimpse of what's happening in biogenetics there.

In the west, we have debates about whether we should intervene to prevent disease or use stem cells, while the Chinese just do it on a massive scale. When I was in China, some researchers showed me a document from their Academy of Sciences which says openly that the goal of their biogenetic research is to enable large-scale medical procedures which will "rectify" the physical and physiological weaknesses of the Chinese people.

Do these issues arise from problems about what humans are becoming, and the relationships between the public and the private?

Yes. These are problems of the commons, the resources we collectively own or share. Nature is commons, biogenetics is genetic commons, intellectual property is commons. So how did Bill Gates become the richest man on earth? We are paying him rent. He privatised part of the "general intellect", the social network of communication - it's a new enclosure of the commons. This has given a new boost to capitalism, but in the long term it will not work. It's out of control.

Take a bottle of water: I produce it, you buy it. If I drink it, you cannot. Knowledge is exactly the opposite. If it freely circulates, it doesn't lose value; if anything, it gains value. The problem for companies is how to prevent the free circulation of knowledge. Sometimes they spend more money and time trying to prevent free copying than on developing products.

Sounds about right. And given how COVID has played out, I think the Biden/Harris Administration will turn the other way until the issue can’t be ignored. What’s to say they’re not working on that shit as we speak?