Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I know Watson is supposed to be a lolcow but I found this video to be useful in showing a 1:1 comparison between the Cultural Revolution in China and what's happening in the States today.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid Pretty good summary, though one factor that I think should also be considered here is Deng Xiaoping's Chairmanship after Mao had finally croaked; He pushed forward a lot of reforms that allowed China to start pulling the economic bullshit that became noticeable when China took Hong Kong. Crucially, when his reforms led to the Tienanmen Square Protests he went against his reformer clique and sided with the hardliners, which locked China into what they have become today where they are now using a market economy to their advantage but so far have not had their one-party state collapse.

I would also quibble that the British Empire had already collapsed after the Suez Crisis, but, well, if they weren't dead by the Suez Crisis they definitely were when they had China actually influenced/strong-armed them into giving up Hong Kong.

Either way, Great OP.

One thing that should be noted is that Deng Xiaopeng was focused only on economic reforms not political reforms. He never intended to give the Chinese people freedom, the "openness" of China was an unintended side effect.

Onto the OP, I like it. I would also include how little the CCP actually did during the Second Sino-Japanese war, which sums up a lot of their career (someone fixes shit up they swoop in and take it over). The vast majority of Chinese casualties were from the KMT and sadly those soldiers were never honored until the 1980s, before that the KMT soldiers were considered Japanese collaborators.

 

[BrunoMattei]

@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid Cold War 2: The Legend of Curly's Gold.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid Cold War 2: The Legend of Curly's Gold.

Why the change from the breakdance movie to a treasure hunt movie?

 

[Xerxes IX]

out of all the shitty policies china has enacted, the one child policy has to be one of the most underrated in terms of pure retardation.

Wasn't there something that came out about the PLA complaining that the generation of men joining the army that had come from this policy were a bunch of fat incels?

 

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Wasn't there something that came out about the PLA complaining that the generation of men joining the army that had come from this policy were a bunch of fat incels?

Single children who are spoiled and unable to deal with confrontation. Their first real world battle in the middle east went bad and If the Indians are being truthful they haven't improved. That Chinese camp they captured last week was full of porn and video games.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

Single children who are spoiled and unable to deal with confrontation. Their first real world battle in the middle east went bad and If the Indians are being truthful they haven't improved. That Chinese camp they captured last week was full of porn and video games.

Got a news article for that? I’d love to know more.

 

[Not Really Here]

Single children who are spoiled and unable to deal with confrontation. Their first real world battle in the middle east went bad and If the Indians are being truthful they haven't improved. That Chinese camp they captured last week was full of porn and video games.

Letting NEETs and incels outside the of the great firewall is a great idea.
It's not like they pirate shit and will smuggle contraband back by the megaton.

 

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Got a news article for that? I’d love to know more.

Unfortunately I do not. The west (at least America) isn't really talking about the Indian and Chinese skirmishes. BUT there are Indian political channels who give commentary and a lot of it is in English. It seems like China is using Indian to cut it's teeth.

 

[Least Concern]

Speaking of the China-India border, it looks like things elevated to firing warning shots in one of their clashes recently. Both sides are blaming the other as to who shot first.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-accuses-india-of-firing-gunshots-near-troops-across-disputed-border-in-latest-confrontation/ar-BB18PrOG

 

[Absolutego]

Onto the OP, I like it. I would also include how little the CCP actually did during the Second Sino-Japanese war, which sums up a lot of their career (someone fixes shit up they swoop in and take it over). The vast majority of Chinese casualties were from the KMT and sadly those soldiers were never honored until the 1980s, before that the KMT soldiers were considered Japanese collaborators.

To expound on this, the biography I'm currently reading about Mao Zedong dubbed the war between the CCP and the Japanese Empire during WWII as the longest fake war in modern history. It took the CCP >5 years to have a notable military engagement with the Japanese, and they instead spent most of that time mismanaging Yan'an into oblivion and sabotaging the Kuomintang.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Disney Thanks Chinese Labor Camp Authorities in Mulan Credits

Disney Thanks Chinese Labor Camp Authorities in Mulan Credits

Plus: California is burning because of a "gender reveal" party, Irish brothel law backfires, and more...

reason.com

https://archive.md/FQNyg

The new Mulan movie is facing a barrage of criticism—and promises to boycott—for filming near Chinese concentration camps and then thanking the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for the privilege.

The film—a live-action version of the 1998 Disney cartoon by the same name—is based on Chinese folklore about a young woman (Hua Mulan) who pretends to be a boy so that she can fight in her father's place when he is conscripted into the Chinese army. In a sense, it's a tale about cleverness, bravery, and familial love helping to overcome hardships brought about by a violent and overbearing government.

That's makes Disney's filming location—Xinjiang—an extra slap in the face. Xinjiang is where China has been holding Uighurs in concentration camps and subjecting them and other Muslim minorities to horrible human rights abuses.

"The repression of ethnic Uighurs and Kazakhs in the western part of the country has been increasingly brutal and systematic," explained Daniel Drezner at Reason in April. "The erection of a massive network of internment facilities, prisons, and forced labor camps speaks to the regime's ruthlessness and deep illiberalism."

Which brings us back to Mulan. After the movie's Friday release "observers noted [that] in the final credits Disney offers 'special thanks' to eight government entities in Xinjiang, including the public security bureau in Turpan, a city in eastern Xinjiang where several re-education camps have been documented," notes The Guardian. In addition:

The film also expresses thanks to the "publicity department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Region Committee", the Chinese Communist party's propaganda department in Xinjiang. Disney has been approached for comment. […]

Activists calling for a boycott of the film are now highlighting its links to Xinjiang, while other researchers noted that the public security bureau in Turpan oversees at least 14 internment camps in the area.

"It's sufficiently astonishing that it bears repeating: Disney has thanked four propaganda departments and a public security bureau in Xinjiang, a region in northwest China that is the site of one of the world's worst human rights abuses happening today," writes Washington Post contributor Isaac Stone Fish.

"Disney has a long and ongoing relationship with China, where its films often find success in theaters and where its Shanghai Disneyland theme park resides," notes The Verge. And the company is expecting the new Mulan to do well in China where, unlike the U.S., it will actually be shown in theaters.

"Theatrically, Mulan has generated $6 million in limited markets—including Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore—in its first weekend The film is slated to be released in China on September 11th," The Verge adds.

Disney decided to forgo a U.S. theatrical release and sell the movie directly to Disney+ app users for $30 (plus the price of a Disney+ subscription fee). "Whether or not pressure from protesters to boycott Mulan worked may remain unclear for a while," since "Disney doesn't have to disclose how many digital copies of Mulan it's sold via Disney Plus," The Verge notes.

Mulan's release has already been tied to a huge spike in Disney+ app downloads, suggesting political pressure may do little to dampen the film's U.S. popularity.

To expound on this, the biography I'm currently reading about Mao Zedong dubbed the war between the CCP and the Japanese Empire during WWII as the longest fake war in modern history. It took the CCP >5 years to have a notable military engagement with the Japanese, and they instead spent most of that time mismanaging Yan'an into oblivion and sabotaging the Kuomintang.

Do you have a link? Can you post a quote?

 

[Least Concern]

I think this Mulan credits thing is being blown out of proportion. It's quite customary for local government agencies to be thanked in movie credits like this. It's odd that people are all butthurt over it just because those governments are in China in this case. And it's not like excluding the agency from these credits would have brought an end to abuse against Uighurs in Xinjiang.

 

[Tim Buckley]

I think this Mulan credits thing is being blown out of proportion. It's quite customary for local government agencies to be thanked in movie credits like this. It's odd that people are all butthurt over it just because those governments are in China in this case. And it's not like excluding the agency from these credits would have brought an end to abuse against Uighurs in Xinjiang.

It's like, way after the entire world finds out the nazis are commiting genocide in concentration camps, Disney gives their blessing while every major corporation sucks their dick publicly and proudly.

And that's literally the world we currently live in right now.

 

[Archeopthryx]

Well some industrialists congratulated Germany before WWII. Disney only went full anti-Nazi when the war is in full swing and not before. Companies that did it before WWII? Marvel. Which was known as Atlas Comics back then. Now Disney owns them. Which explains the lack of anti-CCP sentiments in their comics.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

For globalist corporations its easy to look at the state of the West and know which side you'll want to be on in 50 years

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

The easy way to fix this may be to reward female immigration / marriage visas from the Philippines or other shitty nearby countries.

Or war with surrounding Asian countries. I mean it's not like they are surrounded by enemies and the CCP aren't ENCROACHING on their terroritories, right?
Right?

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

The easy way to fix this may be to reward female immigration / marriage visas from the Philippines or other shitty nearby countries.

We might get more of this:

Or war with surrounding Asian countries. I mean it's not like they are surrounded by enemies and the CCP aren't ENCROACHING on their terroritories, right?
Right?

China lost when they tried to invade Vietnam a decade after the US lost and left

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

China lost when they tried to invade Vietnam a decade after the US lost and left

That doesn't mean they haven't stopped trying to gain control over the Senkaku Islands and the South China Sea.
Then there are projects like this:

https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-island-building-south-china-sea-damage-marine-environment-implications-and

https://archive.vn/0e3lk

Yeah, it failed but it shows what lengths they'll go to in order to strengthen their claims in disputed territory.

 

[surprisemfka]

Interesting thread. Something I found interesting was the CCP's decision in 2007 to allow science fiction literature as it supposedly correlated with tech innovation.

https://archive.vn/fBbiX