Chris and bullying? -

[jaijai]

So the recent revelations about Chris' gal-pals and his MHS days got me thinking.

Chris seems to have entirely bypassed the fact that he was bullied and actually targeted more then some others according to what one of his old high school friends said. Is this some kind of censoring of his memories? Blocking out the bad memories of school in favour of remembering the sweet times with his gal-pals? Or does he just not class what he experienced as 'bullying'?

I just find this quite hard to reconcile with how Chris is nowadays. If anyone so much as questions what he says, they're trolling him and bullying him. Yet someone bullies him in school and makes him run away and cry? Oh no, no sweat, it's fine. It's confusing.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Brother, it is likely Chris has "blocked" the unhappy memories of his past. That is common amongst people with depression, where they only remember the "good ole' days".

Plus, Chris likely thinks bullying is the "tv bullying", of wedgies and swirlies.

 

[Dreamatorium]

So the recent revelations about Chris' gal-pals and his MHS days got me thinking.

Chris seems to have entirely bypassed the fact that he was bullied and actually targeted more then some others according to what one of his old high school friends said. Is this some kind of censoring of his memories? Blocking out the bad memories of school in favour of remembering the sweet times with his gal-pals? Or does he just not class what he experienced as 'bullying'?

I just find this quite hard to reconcile with how Chris is nowadays. If anyone so much as questions what he says, they're trolling him and bullying him. Yet someone bullies him in school and makes him run away and cry? Oh no, no sweat, it's fine. It's confusing.

He said something about the severity of his bullying, though he might have skewed the truth in his favor like he usually does. Basically, he wasn't 'thrown into lockers, wedgied or used as a soccer ball in a good old game of Kick the Autistic'.

Here's what my intuition says, and take this with a grain of salt since I don't actually know anything for certain: I think Chris was made fun of a little and ostracized from most of the high school hierarchy because he was a special ed. kid being integrated into normal classes. He was a spergy, odd kid with conservative beliefs. People probably whispered behind his back to his 'gal-pals' of the time - "Isn't Christian so weird?"

This is what they might have interpreted as bullying and thus, through empathy's course, felt bad for him. The rest is Christory.

 

[JULAY]

So the recent revelations about Chris' gal-pals and his MHS days got me thinking.

Chris seems to have entirely bypassed the fact that he was bullied and actually targeted more then some others according to what one of his old high school friends said. Is this some kind of censoring of his memories? Blocking out the bad memories of school in favour of remembering the sweet times with his gal-pals? Or does he just not class what he experienced as 'bullying'?

I just find this quite hard to reconcile with how Chris is nowadays. If anyone so much as questions what he says, they're trolling him and bullying him. Yet someone bullies him in school and makes him run away and cry? Oh no, no sweat, it's fine. It's confusing.

People told Chris "Sonic's dead!" and Chris knew he wasn't dead and told them "No, he is not." So that wasn't bullying.

People would throw pennies at Chris and laugh when he picked them up. But joke's on them, they're a bunch of idiots who threw money away. So that wasn't bullying.

 

[jaijai]

So the recent revelations about Chris' gal-pals and his MHS days got me thinking.

Chris seems to have entirely bypassed the fact that he was bullied and actually targeted more then some others according to what one of his old high school friends said. Is this some kind of censoring of his memories? Blocking out the bad memories of school in favour of remembering the sweet times with his gal-pals? Or does he just not class what he experienced as 'bullying'?

I just find this quite hard to reconcile with how Chris is nowadays. If anyone so much as questions what he says, they're trolling him and bullying him. Yet someone bullies him in school and makes him run away and cry? Oh no, no sweat, it's fine. It's confusing.

People told Chris "Sonic's dead!" and Chris knew he wasn't dead and told them "No, he is not." So that wasn't bullying.

People would throw pennies at Chris and laugh when he picked them up. But joke's on them, they're a bunch of idiots who threw money away. So that wasn't bullying.

People throw pennies at him in the corridor and make fun of him to his face, that's not bullying. Chris logic -sigh;

 

[MysticMisty]

Chris is mentally a kid. For the most part, kids don't properly grasp what life for older people is really like, and this includes high schoolers. When you're a kid, you imagine high school as being like what pop culture says it is. In my case, high school was some bizarre cross between River City Ransom and Back to the Future, despite having a sister seven years older than me. Towards the end of elementary school reality finally kicks in and you realize high school isn't that different from school as it is now: just harder with more teachers.

I mention all of this because Chris was a little kid in a high schoolers body: reality be damned, high school is what TV and movies tell me it's like. Thus, bullying in high school involves getting stuffed into lockers, wedgies, and with a "kick me" sign that people happily use as an invitation to literally kick your ass. Instead, people threw pennies and yelled "Sonic is dead!" so his little kid logic told him it's not bullying. And because some aspects of Chris' mental facilities have barely aged (if at all) the same child logic applies even now.

 

[Ryan Rash]

I'm willing to bet an easy way to get Chris's goat as a kid was simply saying "Sonic is dead". It worked for me in middle school. XP

 

[tobacky_vapor]

you see, this is what I don't get about opl. people who are bully tend to remember torment they go through for 5 years. compare to the trolls, the bullies did much more abuse to Chris. Chris was trolled on and off for about say 3 years, I believe the same amount of time he was bullied in school. and the bullies were much worse to him the trolls were they were probably on a level of torment.

how the fuck is he broken by trolls but has little to no recollection of the bullies?

 

[DH3000]

Didn't the email say people would bully him to the point of making him cry? That sounds a little more extreme than pennies and "Sonic's Dead".

you see, this is what I don't get about opl. people who are bully tend to remember torment they go through for 5 years. compare to the trolls, the bullies did much more abuse to Chris. Chris was trolled on and off for about say 3 years, I believe the same amount of time he was bullied in school. and the bullies were much worse to him the trolls were they were probably on a level of torment.

how the fuck is he broken by trolls but has little to no recollection of the bullies?

I'd find it hard to believe that the high school bullies were worse than the trolls, though all the information on what they did still isn't out.

 

[Stuff and Things]

I would say that he didn't noticed that he was being bullied, his concept of real life, was and is what the idiot box tells him, the highschool is like it was portrayed in those stupid 90's sitcoms like saved by the bell, and he was the protagonist of it, in his mind, the problems of the high school were just the math tests and taking the cutest girl of the class to the dance of graduation, since it all revolved around sterotypes, he was popular, because he was surounded by "gal-pals", he was never the geeky guy, because he was in the basketball team!!1! and of course, he was never bullied, because there weren't jocks in black leather jackets locking him up in the lockers and stealing his lunch money, that's why he never realized the reality that he was dealing with during his highschool days...

tl;dr
He never understood that he was getting bullied, and add to that the fact that he has a really bad memory, and the fact that his ego modifies his memories to make him look like the hero/victim (just like in southpark, when cartman tried to remember who invented a joke, and with the time, his ego was altering his memories).

 

[pickleniggo]

Didn't the email say people would bully him to the point of making him cry? That sounds a little more extreme than pennies and "Sonic's Dead".

Well, for Chris to admit that he was bullied at all would be an admittance of him not being as Socially Awesome and Cool as he wants to think he was. That said, it's amazing he thinks the school board, Mary Lee Walsh, and Snyder are bullies.

 

[The Dude]

People keep saying that they don't understand how Chris could block out how bad High School was for him, but he had his gal-pals (even though they were just pity buddies) to offset the bad stuff. So then his autistic mind just focuses on the good and blocks out the bad and voila High School was Socially Awesome and Cool.

 

[tobacky_vapor]

I would say that he didn't noticed that he was being bullied, his concept of real life, was and is what the idiot box tells him, the highschool is like it was portrayed in those stupid 90's sitcoms like saved by the bell, and he was the protagonist of it, in his mind, the problems of the high school were just the math tests and taking the cutest girl of the class to the dance of graduation, since it all revolved around sterotypes, he was popular, because he was surounded by "gal-pals", he was never the geeky guy, because he was in the basketball team!!1! and of course, he was never bullied, because there weren't jocks in black leather jackets locking him up in the lockers and stealing his lunch money, that's why he never realized the reality that he was dealing with during his highschool days...

tl;dr
He never understood that he was getting bullied, and add to that the fact that he has a really bad memory, and the fact that his ego modifies his memories to make him look like the hero/victim (just like in southpark, when cartman tried to remember who invented a joke, and with the time, his ego was altering his memories).

The part I bolded actually makes a lot of sense and pretty much cleared up what I was thinking. Ty

 

[DH3000]

Didn't the email say people would bully him to the point of making him cry? That sounds a little more extreme than pennies and "Sonic's Dead".

Well, for Chris to admit that he was bullied at all would be an admittance of him not being as Socially Awesome and Cool as he wants to think he was. That said, it's amazing he thinks the school board, Mary Lee Walsh, and Snyder are bullies.

Yeah he usually loves playing the victim.

 

[Watcher]

I just find this quite hard to reconcile with how Chris is nowadays. If anyone so much as questions what he says, they're trolling him and bullying him. Yet someone bullies him in school and makes him run away and cry? Oh no, no sweat, it's fine. It's confusing.

Chris's perspective is just really skewed. It doesn't help he buttered up those times in his isolationist head and only focuses on the good aspects.

Like I tend to miss highschool myself at times but then I realize it was only the good parts I was missing that are absent from my life now. The entire experience sucked and I only just wanted to leave when I was there. He wants those aspects like having friends and being around china to return. Not necessarily negative things like having to wake up early and have JERKS around him.

 

[BillRiley]

tl;dr
He never understood that he was getting bullied, and add to that the fact that he has a really bad memory, and the fact that his ego modifies his memories to make him look like the hero/victim (just like in southpark, when cartman tried to remember who invented a joke, and with the time, his ego was altering his memories).

^This is a very good observation. Also, Chris is heavily invested in the idea of "mainstreaming" as he calls it. Thus, he was able to "overcome" his autism and participate in what he considers the life of a normal high school kid - and NOT a "window into hell" like the rest of his special ed. peers. Admitting he was bullied because of his autism, as he obviously was, would be admitting that mainstreaming didn't work out in his favor at all. And that is clearly unacceptable to his self image as a plucky, artistically talented young man who overcame great hardships and who was cruelly snubbed by people who feared his autism or were jealous of his artist talent and so forth and so on.

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]

I think Chris wants to downplay the bullying he endured in order to preserve his image of his high school years. He wants it to believe it was sunshine and roses, so he suffered from immature boys (making it look like THEY had the problem) instead of bullies.

 

[Stuff and Things]

tl;dr
He never understood that he was getting bullied, and add to that the fact that he has a really bad memory, and the fact that his ego modifies his memories to make him look like the hero/victim (just like in southpark, when cartman tried to remember who invented a joke, and with the time, his ego was altering his memories).

^This is a very good observation. Also, Chris is heavily invested in the idea of "mainstreaming" as he calls it. Thus, he was able to "overcome" his autism and participate in what he considers the life of a normal high school kid - and NOT a "window into hell" like the rest of his special ed. peers. Admitting he was bullied because of his autism, as he obviously was, would be admitting that mainstreaming didn't work out in his favor at all. And that is clearly unacceptable to his self image as a plucky, artistically talented young man who overcame great hardships and who was cruelly snubbed by people who feared his autism or were jealous of his artist talent and so forth and so on.

Pretty much this, and what is more ironic, is that those bizarre "levels" of "functionality" were imposed by himself, but he fooled himself to believe that the rest of the people actually believed that too...

 

[CalmMyTits]

I wonder why he was bullied in the first place. At my school, some of the sped kids got teased because of spergy behavior, but I've never seen or heard of any of them being outright tormented or bullied. They tended to stick to themselves though, not going out of their way to cause trouble.

Chris on the other hand, we know Barb raised him to think he could do no wrong. He got no discipline at home, or if Bob tried to discipline him, Barb contravened it. As a result, I bet Chris was a real snot at school sometimes, and thus called some negative attention to himself.

 

[Fuzzy Wuzzy]

We all know bullying is bad and how it can cause negative psychological effects on some people in the long run. But here's the question; has Chris bullied others? That's what I want to know because there are cases that some kids who get mollycoddled like Chris bully other people. What do you think?