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DJAndyMD

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In another topic thread, Chris explained how others were dragging Sonic's name through the mud. However, Sega has done the exact same thing with stuff like Sonic '06. Is Chris not willing to admit that Sega is partly or even fully responsible for the way people see the Sonic series?
 

ChurchOfGodBear

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Chris hasn't demonstrated any talent for being able to differentiate good creations from bad ones. The only negative comments he can ever make are about stuff literally no one else would ever know or care about. He faulted LBP because the mod kit wasn't tailored for Sonichu building. He faulted Fox for changing a voice actor for a show that was still very new.

I don't see any way Chris would fault Sega for the decline of the Sonic franchise. In his eyes, they can do no wrong, especially since they stopped making hardware and started making games for "Chris Approved" Sony and Nintendo consoles. And people who no longer view Sonic the same way they did in 1992 are TRAITORS!
 

NegaCWC

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DJAndyMD said:
In another topic thread, Chris explained how others were dragging Sonic's name through the mud. However, Sega has done the exact same thing with stuff like Sonic '06. Is Chris not willing to admit that Sega is partly or even fully responsible for the way people see the Sonic series?

See Chris and brand loyalty. For Chris, the right label is the main criteria for quality. If it's an official Sonic merchandise then it must be pure gold, unless there's something in it which Chris considers to be truly outrageous. For Chris to denounce an official Sonic game/cartoon/comic it will have to do something like making Sonic's sexual relationship with Tails canon.
 

DJAndyMD

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NegaCWC said:
DJAndyMD said:
In another topic thread, Chris explained how others were dragging Sonic's name through the mud. However, Sega has done the exact same thing with stuff like Sonic '06. Is Chris not willing to admit that Sega is partly or even fully responsible for the way people see the Sonic series?

See Chris and brand loyalty. For Chris, the right label is the main criteria for quality. If it's an official Sonic merchandise then it must be pure gold, unless there's something in it which Chris considers to be truly outrageous. For Chris to denounce an official Sonic game/cartoon/comic it will have to do something like making Sonic's sexual relationship with Tails canon.

I am surprised the bestiality in Sonic '06 wasn't one of those ques.
 
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He's like every sega fanboy in this respect. Including me :lol:

"SEGA USED TO BE AWESOME. NOW THEY'RE NOT AWESOME. BUT THEY'RE TOO AWESOME TO BLAME FOR IT! It must be something else! Like tards for ruining sonic! Or Walmart for not stocking the consoles! Or people being fucking idiots and supporting *Nintendo/sony/microsoft/* who were obviously inferior!"

Didn't Chris's most recent rant contain a line like "since you stopped doing hardware it's gone downhill"? The rant is literally two clicks from this page but I'm far too lazy to check.
 

NegaCWC

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Melchett said:
Didn't Chris's most recent rant contain a line like "since you stopped doing hardware it's gone downhill"? The rant is literally two clicks from this page but I'm far too lazy to check.

The quote was: "Shelving Sonic away will be the worst mistake SEGA will ever make since they stopped their console series at the Dreamcast." Since I don't play vidya too much I'm not familiar with all those consoles and games so maybe there's something I'm missing, but as far I understand this is not a denouncement of any Sonic game, but merely an expression of sadness over the end of a certain series of games (I'm not sure to which series he's referring exactly and I'm too lazy to find out).

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DJAndyMD said:
I am surprised the bestiality in Sonic '06 wasn't one of those ques.

But it was STRAIGHT bestiality. Stay straight animal lovers of all teenages.
 

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^ And besides, Chris said he'd fuck a dog for Panda, so he's hardly opposed to the idea.
 
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NegaCWC said:
Melchett said:
Didn't Chris's most recent rant contain a line like "since you stopped doing hardware it's gone downhill"? The rant is literally two clicks from this page but I'm far too lazy to check.

The quote was: "Shelving Sonic away will be the worst mistake SEGA will ever make since they stopped their console series at the Dreamcast." Since I don't play vidya too much I'm not familiar with all those consoles and games so maybe there's something I'm missing, but as far I understand this is not a denouncement of any Sonic game, but merely an expression of sadness over the end of a certain series of games (I'm not sure to which series he's referring exactly and I'm too lazy to find out).

He's responding to some fake news story that said that sega was looking for a new mascot I believe, where there was rumour of axing sonic. And "stopped their console series at dreamcast"? Does he understand why they stopped?! They basically just poured money down a hole with their last two consoles and thenthey realised "holy fuck if we keep doing this we're gonna go bankrupt!" it wasn't a decision, just a survival technique. (not dissing the Saturn or the DC. I love them both dearly and they are my favourite consoles of their respective era, but sega really cocked up on the business side of things).

However I've changed my opinion since my last post in this thread. I don't reckon Chris is a sega fanboy anymore. He's a sonic fanboy. Hes blaming sega somewhat, at the moment of writing this he thinks they're axing sonic, so he thinks they're stupid for taking away his one true obsession. The only reason he doesn't blame sega for sonic getting a bad rap is cuz he still likes the games they made. Cus he's a sonic fanboy to the extreme and that means he must love every game even if it sucks (I'm sure there's a quote somewhere to that effect that he says to his fans during ABL's saga... "if you don't like everything I do no matter what, you're not a real fan" basically).

Kinda related point - how come he never bitches about pokemon? Like ever?
 

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Melchett said:
Kinda related point - how come he never bitches about pokemon? Like ever?

He probably likes that the designs are becoming more humanoid so he doesn't have to go through the effort of drawing them with human qualities himself. Gotta have them Sonichu-esque rip-offs as citizens of CWCville after all! :roll:
 

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Melchett said:
Kinda related point - how come he never bitches about pokemon? Like ever?

I'm not into Pokemon, but what's there to bitch about for CWC? It's been the same game everytime, and it's made by an autistic.
 

MysticMisty

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Chris doesn't properly understand a good game and a bad game. To him, good games are ones with lots of achievements, and are easy to beat/dick around with. Bad games are ones in which he has to work for achievements and beating the game. Good games are games from Chris-approved franchises (Sonic, Pokemon, LBP), bad games are HEXBox exclusives.
 

Atsimu

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MysticMisty said:
Chris doesn't properly understand a good game and a bad game. To him, good games are ones with lots of achievements, and are easy to beat/dick around with. Bad games are ones in which he has to work for achievements and beating the game. Good games are games from Chris-approved franchises (Sonic, Pokemon, LBP), bad games are HEXBox exclusives.

It seems the games he plays the most have relevance to, or can become extensions of, his internal CWCville. Sonic and Pokemon storylines are added to his mental blender of ideas, while LBP and Mod Nation Racers give him tools to realize his internal world.
 

LionSandwich

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Does Chris even like Sonichu/Sonic anymore? This new Chris has walked out of a bizzaro dimension and I don't even know if he shares the same interests with the old Chris. Has there been any mentions of Sonichu since the divide of 2011?
 

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Here's a musing:

Heard of "The Boy Who Cries Wolf"? Today's Internet Trolls and Cyber-Bullies who pretend to be the opposite gender to everyone they talk to online, making socializing online the worst mistake of anyone's life since teenage pregnancy, starring in a porn, or rape. And when a date is set up, they always stand you up, or if they do make it, they have someone else hiding nearby with a camera to record the whole thing to transform into something dark, evil and sick to be used against you to smear your name.

Today's version of the classic should be called, "The Online Trolls Who Cry Woman".

Okay, now THIS pisses me off. I am not one who is to be blamed here; there are a lot of sick people who perverted Sonic's good name. Especially those who made him out as a homo, when he is not. Hell! He had a thing going on for a long time with Sally Acorn in his comic book series.

SEGA, Sonic was praised a lot better than Mario, because Sonic has more attitude, is stronger and faster, and he talks in his games more than the catchphrase-spewing plumber did.

And in any case, Sonic has replaced my hero before him, the American Rabbit. Shelving Sonic away will be the worst mistake SEGA will ever make since they stopped their console series at the Dreamcast.

Sonic For SEGA RAW!!! And Forever!!!

Yeah, sure, people should take advice from you, Chris.
 

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Marvin said:
BatsForLashes88 said:
Does Chris even like Sonichu/Sonic anymore? This new Chris has walked out of a bizzaro dimension and I don't even know if he shares the same interests with the old Chris. Has there been any mentions of Sonichu since the divide of 2011?
http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Facebook#Sonichu_is_not_dead

And plus there was his recent Sonic rant.

Monday, 29 April 2013

Okay, now THIS pisses me off. I am not one who is to be blamed here; there are a lot of sick people who perverted Sonic's good name. Especially those who made him out as a homo, when he is not. Hell! He had a thing going on for a long time with Sally Acorn in his comic book series.

SEGA, Sonic was praised a lot better than Mario, because Sonic has more attitude, is stronger and faster, and he talks in his games more than the catchphrase-spewing plumber did.

And in any case, Sonic has replaced my hero before him, the American Rabbit. Shelving Sonic away will be the worst mistake SEGA will ever make since they stopped their console series at the Dreamcast.

Sonic For SEGA RAW!!! And Forever!!!

Let's see here....
- Dislikes how people criticising Sonic
- Dislikes how people comparing Sonic to Mario

Sadly, is it wrong if I actually seen worse Sonic-fanboyism related rants than this?
 

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Alan Pardew said:
Sadly, is it wrong if I actually seen worse Sonic-fanboyism related rants than this?
Of course not. There's tons of Sonic fanboys out there that are worse than Chris.
 

BillRiley

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Atsimu said:
MysticMisty said:
Chris doesn't properly understand a good game and a bad game. To him, good games are ones with lots of achievements, and are easy to beat/dick around with. Bad games are ones in which he has to work for achievements and beating the game. Good games are games from Chris-approved franchises (Sonic, Pokemon, LBP), bad games are HEXBox exclusives.

It seems the games he plays the most have relevance to, or can become extensions of, his internal CWCville. Sonic and Pokemon storylines are added to his mental blender of ideas, while LBP and Mod Nation Racers give him tools to realize his internal world.

^This. (Succinctly put, too. Well done!) As has been mentioned before, Chris appears to have spent years (who knows how long) building a richly detailed fantasy world around the Sonic and Pokemon franchises. This explains why he reacted so strongly when ABL intruded into his world with Asperchu. But the dynamics of this is a topic for another thread.
 

TheRetroReplay

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In my experience, there's 3 types of people: People who like Sonic, Sonic fans, Sonictards.

People who like Sonic enjoy the games that are good but know when there's crap and they won't buy a system just to play an exclusive Sonic games.

Sonic fans will admit when there's a bad Sonic game, but they'll still play all the games and buy consoles for exclusive titles. They'll also get involved in the community with fanart and fanfiction, maybe create their own Sonic fan character. They're at least somewhat reasonable to talk to.

Sonictards are the worse. They will go out and buy every console that there's a Sonic game for, even buying the same game for each console, they'll constantly rebuy every rerelease of the games. They think every Sonic game is pure gold regardless if the game sucks or hasn't aged well. If you say anything otherwise they'll froth at the mouth and start speaking Latin backwards and their eyes will turn red before they attack you. They get way too involved with the fan community, their fan characters are essentially gods that can do whatever they want and will probably pair them up with actual sega characters. They yank their crank to Sonic porn or are involved with it in some way shape or form. They will also attack other Sonictards if they feel that others are destroying the reality that they have built for themselves

Chris is a Sonictard, he will defend any Sonic game regardless of quality. Treats his Sonic fan characters are canon to the Sonic universe and will blame other Sonictards for the declining quality of Sonic games when he is in fact in the same category as them, even though the fans have nothing to do with it. He wants to believe that Sega can do no wrong when it comes to Sonic because they created him. Because Chris doesn't want to blame himself or Sega, he will, as always, gladly assign blame to anyone he can.
 

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TheRetroReplay said:
In my experience, there's 3 types of people: People who like Sonic, Sonic fans, Sonictards.

People who like Sonic enjoy the games that are good but know when there's crap and they won't buy a system just to play an exclusive Sonic games.

Sonic fans will admit when there's a bad Sonic game, but they'll still play all the games and buy consoles for exclusive titles. They'll also get involved in the community with fanart and fanfiction, maybe create their own Sonic fan character. They're at least somewhat reasonable to talk to.

Sonictards are the worse. They will go out and buy every console that there's a Sonic game for, even buying the same game for each console, they'll constantly rebuy every rerelease of the games. They think every Sonic game is pure gold regardless if the game sucks or hasn't aged well. If you say anything otherwise they'll froth at the mouth and start speaking Latin backwards and their eyes will turn red before they attack you. They get way too involved with the fan community, their fan characters are essentially gods that can do whatever they want and will probably pair them up with actual sega characters. They yank their crank to Sonic porn or are involved with it in some way shape or form. They will also attack other Sonictards if they feel that others are destroying the reality that they have built for themselves

Chris is a Sonictard, he will defend any Sonic game regardless of quality. Treats his Sonic fan characters are canon to the Sonic universe and will blame other Sonictards for the declining quality of Sonic games when he is in fact in the same category as them, even though the fans have nothing to do with it. He wants to believe that Sega can do no wrong when it comes to Sonic because they created him. Because Chris doesn't want to blame himself or Sega, he will, as always, gladly assign blame to anyone he can.

The funniest thing is that to some Sonic fanboys, whoever dislikes the modern Sonic games and compared them to the older Sonic games are automatically retro Sonic fanboys.

What, thought I was kidding?
Well... you probably knew this was coming, right?

After reading IGN's review of Sonic and the Black Knight, I couldn't control myself. I just had to make a rant about the review along with what I think about idiocy in the Sonic fanbase in general.

Now, I'm not trying to bash those who hate certain games. We all have our own opinions, but when I saw that stupid review, I just couldn't take it anymore.

This idiocy has to stop.

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Another thing which pisses me off is that the Sonic fanboys bashing other Sonic fanboys such as Chris or Sonmanic even though they are doing the exact same thing. GSTSuperWorld87 is one example though. Although he rants about Sonic fanboys, the irony is that he is a Sonic fanboy himself. In fact, he made some piss poor Sonic fan characters (Did I mention he made "Michael Jackson the Hedgehog"?), made some sprite videos which are almost as bad as Sonichu (maybe not that bad) ,being a trollbait as he rants about trolls and being a hypocrite.

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(Note: He came back shortly after that.)

Finally, Sonic fanboys have zero idea about trolls. They basically act like internet superheroes who think trolls are the supervillians. Take the trolls mariotehplumber and Gligar13Vids for example. They made some piss poor game review videos which show obvious trolling (In fact, one person actually met Gligar13Vids on Skype chat and he's actually a good guy), the Sonic fanboys flip their shit and take these videos as SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS. They also want to false flag their videos for justice, you know,the exact same thing about how they accused their favourite target RJ Bandsma.

I got a lot of shit to talk about these fanboys, but here are some links which I posted before on the CWCki Forums chat:

http://sonicxthexyoshi.deviantart.com/a ... -278560331
http://forums.sega.com/archive/index.ph ... c8180202b1
http://www.theisozone.com/forum/viewtop ... =94&t=9428
 
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