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Holdek

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I know screencaps have been posted of some of his court documents, but there was some discussion around the time of the forum TOSings about the availability of public documents like mugshots, dashcam/backseat video, and official court transcripts, etc, as well as the feasibility and logistics of obtaining them.

I think it was last left that some of that was destroyed after a period of time from public records, and some of it was available but only to citizens of VA and only for a price. Although I'm not sure how accurate any of that is.

Any updates on any of that stuff? The field agent thing seems quite spotty. Like, people take photos of Chris out in public but the court hearing description was done by people who just volunteered to go up there and do it. Maybe it would have been done by someone else if they hadn't have volunteered, though.
 

I Be Bobby Boulders

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I don't know how it works in VA, but in some other states you can fill out a request via a form, and when it gets approved they mail you the court transcripts and (smaller-sized) mugshots. I'm not sure how a dashcam vid would work.
 

Holdek

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I Be Bobby Boulders said:
I don't know how it works in VA, but in some other states you can fill out a request via a form, and when it gets approved they mail you the court transcripts and (smaller-sized) mugshots. I'm not sure how a dashcam vid would work.
Freedom of Information Act?
 

pickleniggo

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Chris and Barb's mugshots are up there in "holy grail status" with the original autism papers. We all are curious about them, but are unsure of how to obtain them. :heart-empty:
 

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To my recollection:
- The dashcam stuff (if it exists) was severely restricted. Something like you had to be a resident of the VA county whose cops it was taken by, and go in person to pick it up and pay for it or something
- Lots of people tried to call the court about transcripts but were given the run-around and told no such thing exists. I suspect if you know the right Magic Court Words and have money to burn you could maybe get these, but the court staff aren't going to lift a finger to help you figure out the proper procedure.
- The best bet for mugshots is seeing if the local "Crime Times" ever picked it up. Probably too late now.
 

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The mugshots would be great to see. I don't care about the dashcam footage, though.
 

MysticMisty

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I think the court transcripts and mugshots are for Virginia residents only. I think PVCC talked to one of their field agents, but said field agent didn't want to do it in case it got back to them.

The mugshots could be funny but it's OK if we never get the court transcripts because Cyan and her friend Indigo already gave us a first hand report of what happened. Months of coaching and Rob Bell still couldn't get Chris to completely behave in court.
 

Aristocrat

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MysticMisty said:
I think the court transcripts and mugshots are for Virginia residents only. I think PVCC talked to one of their field agents, but said field agent didn't want to do it in case it got back to them.

The mugshots could be funny but it's OK if we never get the court transcripts because Cyan and her friend Indigo already gave us a first hand report of what happened. Months of coaching and Rob Bell still couldn't get Chris to completely behave in court.
Certainly there must be some Christorians who reside in Virginia and can legally obtain the court transcripts and dashcam video. Hell, you could go there under the pretense that you are doing a book about Internet bullying and mention Chris' many videos on You Tube (as if the cops in Ruckersville didn't already know). Requesting docs in the name of publishing research can help get past some barriers.
 

RoguesGallery

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I have contacted a few of the sites that publish mugshots, albemarle county were Chris was arrested has not signed a release agreement with any of these mugshot distributers unlike most of the other counties in virginia. I was informed though that a american citizen (you don't have to be from virginia) can apply for mugshots from that county under public interest laws.
 

champthom

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We had this discussion on the very first incarnation of the forum and I think it was concluded that there wasn't any sort of documentation available.

You have to be a Virginia resident to request stuff for FOIA stuff in VA, so if you live in Virginia, you're welcome to try again and get back to us.
 

Aristocrat

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champthom said:
We had this discussion on the very first incarnation of the forum and I think it was concluded that there wasn't any sort of documentation available.

You have to be a Virginia resident to request stuff for FOIA stuff in VA, so if you live in Virginia, you're welcome to try again and get back to us.

Thing is, we may need to get it fast because those records could be destroyed once Chris' case is dismissed after the Probation. After that is when it may get a little impossible to obtain.
 

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Aristocrat said:
Thing is, we may need to get it fast because those records could be destroyed once Chris' case is dismissed after the Probation. After that is when it may get a little impossible to obtain.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Chris's charges aren't getting dismissed at all. My understanding is that if he has fulfilled the terms of probation, he will not have a felony on his record, but a misdemeanor. And Hoardzilla still has another year to go on her own probation.
 

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^Regardless, is there not a valiant soul within the bounds of Glorious V-State who would be so kind as to obtain the records?
 

Aristocrat

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Alec Benson Leary said:
^Regardless, is there not a valiant soul within the bounds of Glorious V-State who would be so kind as to obtain the records?

Agreed. So what if ManBaby finds out who got them? What's he going to do? CYKMH you over the Internet? Hell if anything, getting a shout-out from the fat oaf is a badge of honor!
 

shutupman

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If someone is actually serious about getting the documents mentioned above, call one of those lawyers that offer free legal advice. They'd be able to tell you which requisition forms you'd have to fill out, any fees etc. provided that they are aware of the particulars in the jurisdiction the Chandler's were tried in.

As for completion of his probation, Chris mentioned in the recent imgur link that he has some followup trials over the next few years. I've never been found guilty of anything, so I don't know whether this is normal or not. Anyone have insight into this?
As it stands, I'm assuming he was sentenced to a monitored probationary period where Chris and Barb would have to check in with their P.O., and a further sentence of un-monitored probation, where if he gets into any more legal troubles it would be dealt with as if he was a recidivist criminal.
 

theobservdr

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they should still have them, because people ask for public records all the time.

However if its out of state, or even out of country (I'm in Ontario, Canada) they might get suspicious.
 

Billpalazzo-sama

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shutupman said:
As it stands, I'm assuming he was sentenced to a monitored probationary period where Chris and Barb would have to check in with their P.O., and a further sentence of un-monitored probation, where if he gets into any more legal troubles it would be dealt with as if he was a recidivist criminal.
I thought there was a post in the recent facebook leak where he mentions having one year of monitered probation followed by two unmonitored, but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
 

Holdek

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Thanks folks. I may look further into this. I'm a DC resident but I may be able to figure something out.
 

Aristocrat

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Holdek said:
Thanks folks. I may look further into this. I'm a DC resident but I may be able to figure something out.
If you ever manage to snag a copy of the dashcam video, you will become a GOD amongst Christorians.
 
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