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Ironically if these people developed a more genuine appreciation of nerd culture they would learn the good a vivid fantasy life can do for a person and stop tilting at the windmills of their political bullshit.

Because that's all this shit boils down to, it's just something to do with their lives, it's exciting to roleplay as a brave freedom fighter and pretend you're in Jim Crow America or Nazi Germany instead of face the boring reality that you're just one of millions living a comfortable life in a first world country where all the serious issues of survival like food, water and shelter are solved.
Now you're getting it. And of course any time you might prove to them they are wrong, they react with a white hot fury because to entertain your point might prove they aren't a good person. If they've been really bad, it might even prove them to be bad.

Not to mention people like Chuck, getting by on ideology, not talent. He certainly can't entertain the notion he's profiting off all this - that would make him an even worse monster!
 

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I do remember girls getting a little pushback, but nothing too extreme, I also don't remember any racism at all, that just wasn't done back then, save for maybe 4chan shitposting, but I'm talking more nerd culture in general.

But I think we all assumed that what appealed to us about nerd culture would be what appealed to everyone, I don't think anyone could have wrapped their heads around people claiming to be nerds... but actually hating everything about nerd culture.

I know for me personally I just never imagined that people could ever really be that fucking uptight and hard assed, that there would be women genuinely incensed by video game girls in bikinis or whatever.

The sharp and undeniable decline pop culture has undergone this last decade just tears me up inside, how did things get so bad? And will it ever get better? And what angers me is even if things do get better and I sincerely hope they do, but that's a decade of our lives we'll never get back that wasn't as good as it could have been thanks to assholes like Wendig.
I have seen girls getting pushback in "nerd culture" (fucking hate that term) and I think there's a reason for it. Not a good one, granted, but a reason. A lot of nerd spaces have always been pretty male dominated and became sort of a scarlet letter for the guys in them. It was a bottom of the totem pole thing, you don't want to associate with that guy, he likes nerdy things. You hit the ages where you want to start engaging with the opposite sex, and there's this huge wall in your way now because you liked this thing that is going to get you mocked by girls who really cared about their social status, which is all of them because everyone cares about their social status regardless of how close to the bottom it is.

That sort of shit usually goes away as people get older and what gives you more status shifts, but I knew and know a lot of guys who felt bitter about that sort of treatment. Most of them got over it and now can engage like normal humans, but you get the guys who are still young, or emotionally immature who think that everyone is like the people who were mean to them, therefore if you weren't in it before they were, you never can legitimately want to be in it.

Thing is, it's such a small group of people like that, but it's presented like it's the vast majority and these brave souls are fighting against the horde of intolerance to newcomers. It's a powermove to try and appropriate a culture that these people had no part in building, so they can shape it into something palatable. The thing that pisses me off is that it's not just typical "nerd" things (comics, video games, sci-fi/fantsy, etc) it's fucking everything. Everything needs to cleaned up and made palatable for everyone now. There's this weird disparity where this group demands everything be made for them and with them in mind, but when it comes to others pointing out that what's been made doesn't appeal to the people there before them its always played off as "Well, it's not for you" as though that's somehow a valid argument. I've always wanted to write something that is just a huge love letter to something controversial, even something I personally disagree with, just for the backlash so i can say back "You don't like my book about how neo-nazis will save the world? Well, that's obviously because I wasn't writing it for you. It's not for you." just to see that blow up
 

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When we want to fight back, we'd have to create a counter-cancel-culture of people who actually punish companies for being dicks and avoiding their products.
One glaring problem with this kind of objective is that it's really fucking hard to do this. It's not that some people aren't willing to drop Gillette (for example), it's that it's really hard to find alternatives. To effectively go after Gillette it's necessary to drop every Procter & Gamble product ever. I even had the misfortune to find that the Russian branded razor blades I have is a brand owned by Gillette.

We need to be doing more than just boycotting, we need to be establishing our own products and brands to compete.
 

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To be fair, though, a lot of SF and fantasy has specialist terminology which makes no fucking sense unless you read the work.

One of the funniest moments in Cherryh's Faded Sun trilogy is when a human soldier puts on a blue robe.
End of Eternity is about an attack on Eternity from the Dead Zone.
Foundation is about a society destined by psychohistory to overthrow Trantor.

I haven't read Scalzi; I don't read a lot of fiction. But he has a reasonably good reputation and unless corrected, I'm happy to assume "Evanescent Flow" actually means something.
That may be true, but for a blurb that's supposed to get people who aren't already initiated into picking up the book, it's incredibly shitty. The back blurb should explain everything clearly in layman's terms. Presumably Scalzi himself wrote that, so he and whoever signed off on it must be comfortable with the series fandom becoming an insular circle jerk. Or they're just morons who don't know how to market.

Five years ago a guy named Kevin wrote a review that was far more clever and entertaining than anything this mincing little creep has ever put to paper.

Here's to you, Kevin. I will pop a beer in your honor.
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Look at this literal Nazi with his Hitleresque mocking of Cuck's prose. This is just like the Holocaust.

One glaring problem with this kind of objective is that it's really fucking hard to do this. It's not that some people aren't willing to drop Gillette (for example), it's that it's really hard to find alternatives. To effectively go after Gillette it's necessary to drop every Procter & Gamble product ever. I even had the misfortune to find that the Russian branded razor blades I have is a brand owned by Gillette.

We need to be doing more than just boycotting, we need to be establishing our own products and brands to compete.
Harry's Razors and Dollar Shave Club stuff are owned by someone else, aren't they? But yeah, if you don't want to give money to companies that have supported BLM you practically have to become Ted Kaczynski. The omnipresence of woke capital insane. That's one reason why leftists are so eager to cancel anyone who isn't completely in lockstep with them while right wingers are far more forgiving. Leftists are spoiled for options. On the right there are a much smaller amount of alternatives.
 
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Doesn't help that by disagreeing, you are deemed a part of the problem and accused of being a women-hating nazi. You can either join in or get canceled.
The most annoying thing is that the ones that lead cancel culture have many companies in a stranglehold, simply cause the companies don't realize that the ones bitching and moaning on Twitter are the same people that don't buy their product. There is not a single thing in this world that was turned profitable by merely pandering to Tumblr and Twitter. Nothing.

When we want to fight back, we'd have to create a counter-cancel-culture of people who actually punish companies for being dicks and avoiding their products.
SJWs don't buy the products of companies that they complain to, the ones that SJWs complain about are actually the ones paying. If they'd decide to tell these companies to suckstart a 12gauge and just invest their money in whatever else, this shit would be over within a year.

I've decided to boycott anything made by Ubisoft and EA a decade ago and I have never regreted that decision. I've decided to boycott Gilette after their atrocious ad from a year ago or so and I am sure as shit not going to give Disney another fucking dime. The sad thing here is, that's not nearly enough and I admit it. I'd have to boycott nearly all companies, but it's a start and if more people participated, it would slowly turn into a movement with much more effect...

... and on that note: How can anyone pay for a product by people who openly tell them how much they despise them?
When it comes to the entertainment industry I'm really not as much of a doomer, I'll admit.

In the current day and age, it's easier than ever to produce and sell content outside of traditional distribution systems (and it's easier to create alternative distribution systems as well.)

Furthermore, the concept of "nerd" in the negative fashion never really went away, it just got the label of "basement-dwelling incel". That hasn't really dissuaded those types from making interesting stuff, though. The thing is that we once again have alternative streams of information that are basically underground. Just like the good old days.

That the resident moral guardians are performing iconoclasm on long-established franchises (and hostility towards "problematic" media) isn't surprising, either. They're being taken seriously by the media and the government, sure, as well as Mom and Pop down the street. Great, nothing's changed there either.

The death of long-running media franchises, while ignominious, was already inevitable. That the mainstream media is wearing the skin of "nerd culture" doesn't mean that "nerds" or their hobbies are ruined. D&D had lousy editions before which no one played. Comics had shitty propaganda shoehorned in. Hell, even morality-focused media even had its day in the sun.

The big picture is necessary with things like this. Say what you will about nerds or gamers or whatever, the Internet has created a more (actually) diverse, global community that has an easier time than ever fostering the creation of something new. With that in mind, ideas become more valuable than money. Woke media is bound to collapse as a result.
 

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One glaring problem with this kind of objective is that it's really fucking hard to do this. It's not that some people aren't willing to drop Gillette (for example), it's that it's really hard to find alternatives. To effectively go after Gillette it's necessary to drop every Procter & Gamble product ever. I even had the misfortune to find that the Russian branded razor blades I have is a brand owned by Gillette.

We need to be doing more than just boycotting, we need to be establishing our own products and brands to compete.
Yeah, if you wanted to avoid every company that has drunk the kool aid, you'd have to live in a hut in a forest, eating only what you plant yourself, wearing mud and twigs.
But at least it should be done to the worst offenders... And I think it doesn't have to affect every branch brand, only the ones doing the worst shit. Even if you still buy products by Procter&Gamble, when you show your dissatisfaction with how the brand Gillette is run by never buying their shit again and they go tits up in the process, that is sufficient.
I mean, it would be best if it also forced the company holding Gillette out of business, but we have to start more humble, I fear.

Best case scenario would be a couple of brands that make it very public that they distance themselves from SJW-shit.
 

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I have seen girls getting pushback in "nerd culture" (fucking hate that term) and I think there's a reason for it.
Most of what I've ever observed is just basic hierarchy testing.

You want to join? Ok, answer this test to prove your knowledge. And it's not even gatekeeping, it's basic evaluation. Are you an intro fan? A basic bitch? No big deal, we'll get you caught up right away. Are you super advanced and know intricies we hadn't even considered? All hail the new king (or queen); show us the way.

The TRUE fans who happen to be girls understood this and accepted it. The ones that get labeled fake are the n00bs that want life to work like they're a Mary Sue and they get all the glory and social power just for showing up. It's not mysoginist to point out, sorry bitch, you got to work at it like everyone else.
 

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Yeah, if you wanted to avoid every company that has drunk the kool aid, you'd have to live in a hut in a forest, eating only what you plant yourself, wearing mud and twigs.
But at least it should be done to the worst offenders... And I think it doesn't have to affect every branch brand, only the ones doing the worst shit. Even if you still buy products by Procter&Gamble, when you show your dissatisfaction with how the brand Gillette is run by never buying their shit again and they go tits up in the process, that is sufficient.
I mean, it would be best if it also forced the company holding Gillette out of business, but we have to start more humble, I fear.

Best case scenario would be a couple of brands that make it very public that they distance themselves from SJW-shit.
Red Bull and Chick Fil-A. Gumroad has been a pretty decent site that lets unwoke artists like Sam Hyde peddle their wares. Bandcamp does less censorship of right wing musicians than most other music distribution sites. Also a bit more obscure but streetrockrecords.net and piratepressrecords.com both platform some punk rock and metal acts that have been cancelled and suppressed in left wing music circles. They do left wing stuff too, but they're more equal opportunity.

If anyone wanted some suggestions.
 

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Most of what I've ever observed is just basic hierarchy testing.

You want to join? Ok, answer this test to prove your knowledge. And it's not even gatekeeping, it's basic evaluation. Are you an intro fan? A basic bitch? No big deal, we'll get you caught up right away. Are you super advanced and know intricies we hadn't even considered? All hail the new king (or queen); show us the way.

The TRUE fans who happen to be girls understood this and accepted it. The ones that get labeled fake are the n00bs that want life to work like they're a Mary Sue and they get all the glory and social power just for showing up. It's not mysoginist to point out, sorry bitch, you got to work at it like everyone else.
I'm not talking about that, everyone gets that to the point where I don't even think of it as hate, since it isn't. I mean people actively trying to block newcomers, which is something I've seen happen and that I disagree with. I agree with what you're talking about, because it literally is just what people do to newbies in any hobby. Its what happened to me with painting warhammer when I got started a year ago, people asked me what I knew about painting, I said not a damn thing, so they taught me.

What I mean is that I've seen people get pushed out of hobbies by really immature and shitty people. And like i said, not super often, I can count on one hand the amounts of times I've seen it happen, but I can get where the attitude came from. I used to be an actual gatekeeper when I was younger, before I grew up and realized the sort of asshole I was being.
 

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It's really his association with Tor that is the worst thing about him. Tor is pretty much ground zero for the incestuous clusterfuck of woke fuckers cancerously destroying the SF fandom with their awards rigging and pretty much open, outright corruption. The Hugos at this point are pretty much cucks from Tor giving each other awards to boost their clique at the expense of everyone else not in their clique, then pretending this is somehow about "Nazis" when not everyone is thrilled.
How did Sci-fi get this way? There used to be tons of legendary authors in sci-fi like asimov and ray bradbury but now that most of them are dead It feels like there hasnt been a really good new sci-fi book in forever.
 

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See, that's the thing, we weren't bothering anybody, sexism and racism was never a serious issue in nerd culture, so why are we one of the main targets?
That's exactly why. It is a group of people they knew they could bully, because if accused of being "racist," no matter how bullshit the charge was, they'd be hurt by that and try to "fix" whatever made up problem was used as an excuse for it.

Many games started pandering to mainstream interests and many good games suddenly changed to become a thinly veiled carbon copy of whatever was popular at the time and some games forced diversity shit into games just for the sake of getting browny points with people who don't even like games.
This is the kind of thing that happens any time a niche pursuit becomes more mainstream. It's not malicious. It's a dilution of the original culture but it isn't done to harm.

What SJWs do isn't so benign. What they seek is outright extermination.

How did Sci-fi get this way? There used to be tons of legendary authors in sci-fi like asimov and ray bradbury but now that most of them are dead It feels like there hasnt been a really good new sci-fi book in forever.
I mainly read dead people these days. They can't disappoint you, at least not again.
 
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I mainly read dead people these days. They can't disappoint you, at least not again.
We can only hope that Chuck joins that group of writers soon. Well, for entirely different reasons, but still.

How did Sci-fi get this way? There used to be tons of legendary authors in sci-fi like asimov and ray bradbury but now that most of them are dead It feels like there hasnt been a really good new sci-fi book in forever.
Unimaginative writers that merely mirror in other, better works what they enjoyed without understanding what made that so special. Also, they usually don't have much knowledge in science, so instead of trying to put a bit of science into fiction and coming up with cool things on their own, they just re-use tropes that have been used for decades.
I haven't read the Expanse books, but based on the show and what I heard from people who read them, they are actually pretty good. So maybe there's at least that.
 

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It sounds like am award winning book
Back in the Hub planet system, Emperox Grayland II consults with her Memory Room – the recorded thoughts and emotional states of every single previous emperox – in search of an unlikely solution to save the entire population of the Interdependency. She plans to break the Nohamapetan blockade of End via a predicted new “evanescent” Flow stream into the End system, while Marce Claremont, a scientific advisor and eventual secret fiancé to Grayland, discovers a possible new method for controlling the evanescent Flow streams which may allow for the transport of whole habitats to the End system, thus preventing an overburden on the planet itself.
I hope it isn't normal reading that paragraph caused me actual pain?
 

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How did Sci-fi get this way? There used to be tons of legendary authors in sci-fi like asimov and ray bradbury but now that most of them are dead It feels like there hasnt been a really good new sci-fi book in forever.
I made a small chart showing some of the award winning early science fiction authors, their educations and accomplishments. Lets compare it to some modern authors and see if we can spot a pattern:

Poul AndersonBA Physics (honors)University of Minnesota
Michael CrichtonBA Biological Anthropology (PBK), Doctor of Medicine Harvard Medical School
Issac AsimovPhD ChemistryColumbia University
Robert HeinleinEngineering Fifth in his class Annapolis Navl Academy.
L Sprague de CampAeronautical engineering Cal Tech (BA) Stevens Institute of Technology (MS)
Arthur C ClarkeMathematics and Physics Kings College LondonFirst proposed geostationary satellites for communication relays, president of the planetary society.
Larry NivenBA MathematicsWashburn University
Hal ClementBS Astronomy MS ChemistryHarvard, Simmons CollegeCaptain USAAF, B-24 pilot with 35 combat missions over Europe.
Vernor VingePhD Mathematics San Diego StateProfessor mathematics and computer science SDSU.
Ray Bradbury High School DiplomaLos Angeles High School
William GibsonEnglish (BA)USB

And today we have:

Chuck WendigEnglish and ReligionQueens University of Charlotte
Arkady MartineReligious studies, Armenian studies, Comparative HistoryUniversity of Chicago, Oxford, RutgersHugo 2020
N. K. JemisinBS Psychology, MA education.Tulane University, University of MarylandHugo 2016,2017,2018,2020

Amal El-Mohtar
PhD English University of Exeter.Hugo 2020
John ScalziBA Philosophy University of ChicagoRedshirts, Old Mans War
Ann LeckieMusicWashington UniversityAncillary Justice
Martha WellsAnthropologyTexas A&MCity of bones
Mur LaffertyEnglish, MFAChapel Hill, University of MaineAnother White Wolf alum.
Seanan Lynn McGuire????Star Wars/Marvel Hire.
2017 Hugo Winner

Wikipedia Bio: McGuire was born in California. She has described her interests as including "swamps, long walks, long walks in swamps, things that live in swamps, horror movies, strange noises, musical theater, reality TV, comic books, finding pennies on the street, and venomous reptiles."[7] She identifies as pansexual,[8] or bisexual,[9] and demisexual.[10]

I know this is not a fair comparison, but it shows what happened: The older generation died off and the new generation lives in the house they built. They blindly repeat the same themes and ideas that the greats pioneered back in their day. Imitation without innovation. The current generation "loves science" but couldn't tell you why.

You want talent? Talent wants to get paid. Publishing pays insultingly little. The only people who can afford to be writers in this economy have a second form of income, often a rich parent or spouse, to finance their writing hobby.

The result is a country club atmosphere, only the children of the wealthy and their friends are welcome. Sales don't matter, what matters is your relationship with the key players in the industry. At TOR these players are a married couple, Teresa and Patrick Hayden. Patrick is a senior editor at TOR. Teresa's role is harder to pin down. She teaches writing and spends a lot of time acting as the gatekeeper for the science fiction world. Being a student of, or friend to, the Haydens is a good way to get a book published or win a Hugo. Google her if you have some time, it's illuminating.

The market for good scifi still exists. Remember The Martian by Andy Weir? It was a classic science fiction story written by a programmer in his spare time. Nobody would publish it. He released it online where it sold well enough to get picked up by Crown. It then spent 76 weeks on the best seller list, 19 weeks in the #1 spot.

Weir has written other books. He is a better writer then Chuck, he has a better understanding of science and the implications of progress. But, he is and will always be an outsider in the publishing industry. Wendig asked for a Star Wars novel on twitter and got it. Even with the Star Wars licence, fawning press and Disney marketing he couldn't crack the #1 spot in the NYT Bestseller list, word of mouth was just that bad.

The comic tragedy of Wendig's life and all his hack friend is this: Money can buy opportunity, but you can't buy talent.
 

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I made a small chart showing some of the award winning early science fiction authors, their educations and accomplishments. Lets compare it to some modern authors and see if we can spot a pattern:

Poul AndersonBA Physics (honors)University of Minnesota
Michael CrichtonBA Biological Anthropology (PBK), Doctor of MedicineHarvard Medical School
Issac AsimovPhD ChemistryColumbia University
Robert HeinleinEngineeringFifth in his class Annapolis Navl Academy.
L Sprague de CampAeronautical engineeringCal Tech (BA) Stevens Institute of Technology (MS)
Arthur C ClarkeMathematics and PhysicsKings College LondonFirst proposed geostationary satellites for communication relays, president of the planetary society.
Larry NivenBA MathematicsWashburn University
Hal ClementBS Astronomy MS ChemistryHarvard, Simmons CollegeCaptain USAAF, B-24 pilot with 35 combat missions over Europe.
Vernor VingePhD MathematicsSan Diego StateProfessor mathematics and computer science SDSU.
Ray BradburyHigh School DiplomaLos Angeles High School
William GibsonEnglish (BA)USB

And today we have:

Chuck WendigEnglish and ReligionQueens University of Charlotte
Arkady MartineReligious studies, Armenian studies, Comparative HistoryUniversity of Chicago, Oxford, RutgersHugo 2020
N. K. JemisinBS Psychology, MA education.Tulane University, University of MarylandHugo 2016,2017,2018,2020

Amal El-Mohtar
PhD EnglishUniversity of Exeter.Hugo 2020
John ScalziBA Philosophy University of ChicagoRedshirts, Old Mans War
Ann LeckieMusicWashington UniversityAncillary Justice
Martha WellsAnthropologyTexas A&MCity of bones
Mur LaffertyEnglish, MFAChapel Hill, University of MaineAnother White Wolf alum.
Seanan Lynn McGuire????Star Wars/Marvel Hire.
2017 Hugo Winner

Wikipedia Bio: McGuire was born in California. She has described her interests as including "swamps, long walks, long walks in swamps, things that live in swamps, horror movies, strange noises, musical theater, reality TV, comic books, finding pennies on the street, and venomous reptiles."[7] She identifies as pansexual,[8] or bisexual,[9] and demisexual.[10]

I know this is not a fair comparison, but it shows what happened: The older generation died off and the new generation lives in the house they built. They blindly repeat the same themes and ideas that the greats pioneered back in their day. Imitation without innovation. The current generation "loves science" but couldn't tell you why.

You want talent? Talent wants to get paid. Publishing pays insultingly little. The only people who can afford to be writers in this economy have a second form of income, often a rich parent or spouse, to finance their writing hobby.

The result is a country club atmosphere, only the children of the wealthy and their friends are welcome. Sales don't matter, what matters is your relationship with the key players in the industry. At TOR these players are a married couple, Teresa and Patrick Hayden. Patrick is a senior editor at TOR. Teresa's role is harder to pin down. She teaches writing and spends a lot of time acting as the gatekeeper for the science fiction world. Being a student of, or friend to, the Haydens is a good way to get a book published or win a Hugo. Google her if you have some time, it's illuminating.

The market for good scifi still exists. Remember The Martian by Andy Weir? It was a classic science fiction story written by a programmer in his spare time. Nobody would publish it. He released it online where it sold well enough to get picked up by Crown. It then spent 76 weeks on the best seller list, 19 weeks in the #1 spot.

Weir has written other books. He is a better writer then Chuck, he has a better understanding of science and the implications of progress. But, he is and will always be an outsider in the publishing industry. Wendig asked for a Star Wars novel on twitter and got it. Even with the Star Wars licence, fawning press and Disney marketing he couldn't crack the #1 spot in the NYT Bestseller list, word of mouth was just that bad.

The comic tragedy of Wendig's life and all his hack friend is this: Money can buy opportunity, but you can't buy talent.
Didn't realize Jemisin won a fourth Hugo. Seeing that is like coals under my eyelids.
 

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Seanan Lynn McGuire????Star Wars/Marvel Hire.
2017 Hugo Winner

Wikipedia Bio: McGuire was born in California. She has described her interests as including "swamps, long walks, long walks in swamps, things that live in swamps, horror movies, strange noises, musical theater, reality TV, comic books, finding pennies on the street, and venomous reptiles."[7] She identifies as pansexual,[8] or bisexual,[9] and demisexual.[10]
>that bio
Who the hell cares??
 

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>that bio
Who the hell cares??
Honestly looks exactly how I pictured her.
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lmao she was the one who wrote the TLJ casino novel starring this walking liver:
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(Separated at birth?)
The short of it is that a fat slug Hutt-knockoff kidnapped some alien dude's daughter so her dad could give him homoerotic messages but queen lardsack up there saves the day by buying the casino planet or some shit.