Church of Genesis II and Friends - The People Who Think Bleach Is A Cure All

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Thanks to @Rat Speaker for helping me find a lot of this info.

So the Church of Genesis II was founded by Jim Humble, who has his own thread here. The basis of the church is that an industrial bleaching agent, chlorine dioxide, is a cure all. They call this magic cure all MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution). The church claims it can cure everything from autism to cancer and even HIV. You may be asking, "who the fuck would buy into this shit?" Well the answer is a lot of people.

It should be stated why these people believe in MMS. @commandersalamander explains it perfectly in the Jim Humble thread.

...but this is essential reading:

http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Basic_Science_of_MMS

This explains what Jim Humble and his supporters believe about MMS. According to these people, it's an oxidizer, not a bleach. Humble explains that any chemical, including water, can cause toxicity, and that chlorine dioxide is approved by the EPA for drinking water and the FDA for food in trace amounts as a disinfectant (which is true.) This is his evidence that MMS is safe in trace amounts for medicinal use.

There's an entire website dedicated to how MMS can cure autism: cdautism.org (cd standing for chlorine dioxide). The website is run by Kerri Rivera. The website claims that 235 children have "recovered" from autism thanks to MMS. She and many others believe that autism is caused by a parasite that can be killed by using MMS. This is outlined in her book thatcan be found on amazon here.

Vice also ran an article about parents that use bleach enemas to cure their children of autism. Here's an excerpt from the article that sums up the crazy perfectly:

Nevertheless, there are a number of people who are convinced that using Miracle Mineral Solution—also known as following the "CD Protocol" (CD stands for chlorine dioxide)—will cure whatever ails them. They believe that it works by clearing the body of mystery parasites known as "rope worms" and other pathogens that they believe cause autism (this theory, to be clear, is wholly unsupported by medical science).

This isn't a problem only found in the United States though, Vice also ran an article about Irish police cracking down on parents who force their children to drink bleach to cure their autism (lol).
If you thought thinking parasites causing autism was insane, it gets worse. According the the article,

They believe bleach can cure children with autism, which they reckon is caused by parasitic worms that multiply during the full moon.

The belief is echoed through a news story where parents in California tried to cure their children's autism with bleach based on lunar cycles.

Kerri Rivera has made her name on the extreme fringes of the autism community. According to Rivera, when the full moon rises every 29 days, that's when parasites wreak havoc inside the guts of children with autism.

Needless to say, this is pseudoscience at its worst. The only way you can cure autism, or anything really, through drinking bleach is if it dies with you.

Here are links to relevant pages:
The "science" of MMS http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Basic_Science_of_MMS
The MMS news site http://mmsnews.is/
His church's website http://genesis2church.is/
MMS wiki http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Main_Page
YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFH2DZShFVQvrOjVkkX8r-g
Genesis II church forum https://g2cforum.org/
The MMS news site http://mmsnews.is/

EDIT: @Ginger Piglet found the full pdf of the book that Kerri Rivera wrote on how autism is caused by parasites that are influenced by the lunar cycles.

Get your Horrifying and Islamic Content ratings ready, boys and girls, because here's a TRUE AND HONEST except from the MMS book!

http://mmsinfo.org/protocols/Kalcker_Parasite_Protocol-K._Rivera_2014_book.pdf

There's plenty candid pictures of rope worms, which clearly look like intestinal linings. I also recommend pages 35 and 36 of this PDF, in which you will learn how to alter the amount of bleach you spray up your child's anus based on the phases of the moon.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

I'd tell these fuckers to go drink Bleach, but...

 

[WhatNemesisMeans]

Maybe Chris should be bathed in bleach on the next full moon.

 

[Bugaboo]

How can worms in your ass cause something wrong with your brain

 

[RP 520]

Spoiler: not safe to read about while eating

It should also be noted that the evidence these cultists have for "rope worms" is actually the intestinal lining of the child being chemically burned off by the bleach and coming out with the stool.

 

[commandersalamander]

More "evidence" that MMS is safe for in home use orally:

http://cdautism.org/chlorine-dioxide-vs-chlorine

It should be noted that holistic quacks recommend a higher dose of MMS (jim humble recommends 1-3 drops up to 8 times a day in 1/2 cup of water) than the EPA (only 0.8 mg, or 800 PPB)

 

[Spelling Bee]

More "evidence" that MMS is safe for in home use orally:

http://cdautism.org/chlorine-dioxide-vs-chlorine

It should be noted that holistic quacks recommend a higher dose of MMS (jim humble recommends one drop once every eight hours) than the EPA.

Do these people have a beef with the UK?

 

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Do these people have a beef with the UK?

Try this: http://archive.md/1Ghqy

 

[Postal Dude]

The only good thing about this is that the problem will eventually take care of itself.

 

[commandersalamander]

Spoiler: not safe to read about while eating

It should also be noted that the evidence these cultists have for "rope worms" is actually the intestinal lining of the child being chemically burned off by the bleach and coming out with the stool.

According to Kerri Rivera, it is not the intestinal lining because a "rope worm" does not have DNA:

Alex Volinksy is the guy who started this rope worm nonsense. One thing I've noticed about alternative medicine is that it's followers will believe pseudo science if the promoter has a PHD, and many of the holistic quacks with a PHD have one in a non-medical or life science related field (in Volinksy's case, engineering) and still act like medical experts anyway. lol. It gets my mother every time. She's currently into some guy who has an at home chelation protocol (which is another mess altogether) and says he's super smart because he has a PHD in engineering, so he must be correct about medical advice, right?

Here's Volinksy's paper on rope worms for the curious. Warning- It contains really gross pictures of these rope worms. Possibly NSFW.


I mentioned in the original thread about Jim Humble that @dannyfrickenp started that my mother is a True Believer of holistic medicine. She totally bought into this rope worm shit for awhile, and also denied that it was intestinal lining. It was... madness and I couldn't convince her otherwise. Also gross.

I wonder if Chris would release a video showing us his "rope worms" that he's storing in his freezer to donate to autism research if he found out about Kerri Rivera. We already know he fell for subliminal videos that supposedly cure autism.

 

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According to Kerri Rivera, it is not the intestinal lining because a "rope worm" does not have DNA:

Here's Volinksy's paper on rope worms for the curious.

It's curious that Kerri says rope worms don't have DNA when the guy who started this bullshit goes into detail about sequencing the rope worm's genome.

 

[DatBepisTho]

How can worms in your ass cause something wrong with your brain

:autism: always :autism:

But seriously:
Supposedly in extreme cases of tapeworms, they can find their way to your brain where they cause small cysts that are usually responsible for migraines and seizures. But those cases are usually rare and more associated with a very bad infestation as opposed to one or two worms. They're probably using that as a basis for these totally real ropeworms.

 

[AA 102]

lol the FBI is investigating the church and sellers of MMS currently.
http://www.natureworldnews.com/arti...g-church-sells-bleach-miracle-cure-autism.htm
Unsurprisingly the FDA is warning people that MMS is bullshit and that it's toxic.

The article talks about a conviction that was already made. This is from a case that involved Louis Daniel Smith. Smith was convicted in 2015 of

conspiracy, smuggling, selling misbranded drugs and defrauding the United States.

The article detailing the court case can be found here.
The church also started a website for Smith. Originally it was to raise awareness and support for Smith but now it's exists to try to free Smith from federal prison. The website can be found here.

 

[commandersalamander]

It's curious that Kerri says rope worms don't have DNA when the guy who started this bullshit goes into detail about sequencing the rope worm's genome.

Kerri should review the paper again (I'm going to guess she's familiar with Volinksy on a rudimentary level), if only for this quote:

"DNA-containing regions are clearly seen."

I don't think Kerri really cares though. Saying that rope worms have no DNA makes it easier for people to believe that their children's intestinal lining is actually rope worms that are the root cause of their gut issues and autism.

In other words, Kerri Rivera will say whatever she can to sell her e-book. It's working too because I was staying at my mother's one night, couldn't sleep, and found "Healing The Symptoms Known as Autism" on her i-Pad. It's how I discovered Jim Humble wasn't the only advocate of this horror story.

My mother must of known Kerri was bat shit insane because she only mentioned Jim Humble to me, not Kerri, and while she's told me a lot of weird theories about what causes autism, she's never mentioned parasites.

What I find especially curious is the major paper cited as evidence was a preliminary one that needed more funding to be finalized. The donation goal for the genome project was never met, so the preliminary paper is the only thing people have as evidence that rope worms are a real thing.

The most curious thing of all, however, is that even the paper states rope worms have only ever been found in enemas. You think if they were actually parasites, they'd be found in organs as well.

Spoiler

while not going into much detail, my mother only found "rope worms" when she did enemas. I kept pointing that out and she pulled weird excuses and explanations out of her ass that I can't recall. It's gotten to the point that any mention of enemas is now a "quack medicine" red flag for me.

I've said it before, but alternative/holistic medicine could have an entire thread of it's own. MMS is only the tip of the iceberg. There's everything from holistic dentists, holistic veterinarians, fake diseases, chelation protocols, coffee enemas, and the chronic lyme fiasco. The autism cure community could also have it's own thread. It should be noted that Kerri Rivera is a conference speaker for Autism One, which is full of crazy. I think the farms would be interested in a woman called Amy Yasko who sells rna supplements to cure autism.

Also, to keep conversation going, who's more fascinating- Humble or Rivera? Rivera isn't all that interesting as a public figure to me. Her naive and desperate followers who are devastated by the reality of their children's autism are more interesting. Humble however is incredibly interesting. I get strong Heaven's Gate vibes from him.

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

This guy and his 'church' reminds me of Reverend Kane from Poltergeist II

 

[commandersalamander]

:autism: always :autism:

But seriously:
Supposedly in extreme cases of tapeworms, they can find their way to your brain where they cause small cysts that are usually responsible for migraines and seizures. But those cases are usually rare and more associated with a very bad infestation as opposed to one or two worms. They're probably using that as a basis for these totally real ropeworms.

As far as I can tell, the basis for rope worms comes from the mucus and intestinal lining that comes from anal inserted enemas. In Volinksy's paper (which is the origin of this whole rope worm mess,) it's stated that rope worms are only found in enemas. Most sites that mention curing rope worms talk about removing them with at home enemas.

(since rope worms only come out of people's asses, it really solidifies the intestinal lining theory to me.)

Tape worms probably have a basis too, since they can be long and rope like in appearance like these rope worms. They're less slimy, though.

lol the FBI is investigating the church and sellers of MMS currently.
http://www.natureworldnews.com/arti...g-church-sells-bleach-miracle-cure-autism.htm
Unsurprisingly the FDA is warning people that MMS is bullshit and that it's toxic.

The article talks about a conviction that was already made. This is from a case that involved Louis Daniel Smith. Smith was convicted in 2015 of

The article detailing the court case can be found here.
The church also started a website for Smith. Originally it was to raise awareness and support for Smith but now it's exists to try to free Smith from federal prison. The website can be found here.

oh good lord. The insanity. This shit just gets better and better.

I love Jim Humble's inconsistency with the FDA, btw. He supports the organization to use them as 'proof' that MMS is safe and that the FDA deems it as non toxic because it's an approved disinfectant (even the legal document he linked as evidence doesn't specifically state that chlorine dioxide is non toxic- just that it's approved in small amounts for food, water, and other uses,) but the minute they crack down on his church, they can go fuck themselves.

 

[ICametoLurk]

I've said it before, but alternative/holistic medicine could have an entire thread of it's own.

Remember guys, the Charlotte rioters demanded that tax dollars be given to this sort of stuff in their demands. (3rd demand)

 

[commandersalamander]

Remember guys, the Charlotte rioters demanded that tax dollars be given to this sort of stuff in their demands. (3rd demand)

Lol. Good luck trying to get the government to fund something that promotes several treatments treatments that have been discredited by the FDA.

I'm really surprised they didn't advocate for the defunding of the FDA and "big pharma" as well as the police department.

 

[Ruin]

I should really start a cult one of these days. There's a lot of really fucking stupid people with a lot of money.

 

[OtterParty]

I should really start a cult one of these days. There's a lot of really fucking stupid people with a lot of money.

you're a tranny which is a good start, now you just need orbiters to agree that you're totally a woman and signal boost / dump cash into your gofundme