Civil Rights Movement - Its Legacy and Consequences

[RichardMongler]

Between all the threads we have about race relations and particularly White/Black relations, perhaps it's time we discuss the flashpoint that changed everything: the Civil Rights Movement. Every discussion on race in America revolves around the Civil Rights era of the 1960s where Blacks fought for integration and having equal access to spaces designated for Whites across the South. The fateful decisions in Morgan v. Virginia, Shelley v. Kraemer, Brown v. Board of Education and Boynton v. Virginia would set into motion what eventually led to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

We've all seen the picketing, sit-ins and various demonstrations from the Freedom Riders throughout the South and the subsequent resistance from Segregationists. We're likely aware of the Voter Registration drives which similarly met resistance from the locals. We're likely aware of the 1964 Monson Motor Lodge protests, 16th Street Baptist Church bombing, the murders of Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner and a host of other major events. We could go on and on, but the point is that integration was a gradual and bloody process that took decades to fulfill.

After half a century since the end of the Civil Rights movement, how do you feel about the course of race relations in the United States? What is the legacy of the Civil Rights movement?

 

[some Sketchy dude]

 

[DumbDude42]

integration was a mistake
segregation is superior for a good 95% of people among both races

 

[Madre Muerte]

integration was a mistake
segregation is superior for a good 95% of people among both races

Based

 

[The Last Stand]

I feel America is approaching another Civil Rights Era. Political violence motivated by race has been happening lately. See Portland.

 

[DeadFish]

blacks Americans by being very being obviously and visually different have caused them to be a politcal issue used by terrible white people as a means to gain power.

Dont forget the klan was an insurance scam to rip off other white people. This is a great example of how the fear of black people have been used by white shit heads to avoid being called out for being Shitheads. What will happen if you dont vote for me? Why then the ne gro will revolt and take your wives. Never mind I stole all the money from the help the orphans fund. Whats important is keeping the ne gro down!

Likewise we've seen it play out the other way. Whites using blacks as a shield against criticism against their shitty behavior. Bidens detractors were called racist when they brought up concerns of him having dementia. Likewise when blm burned urbans centers down they would dismiss their detractors as "racist" despite legit criticism.

Its not just white people. Within the black community bad and shitty leadership use the fear of qhites to gain ppwer so they can hurt other blacks.

Im trying make an orignal point but guess its not coherent here..

 

[oldTireWater]

Either:
a) The civil rights movement of the 60's was reasonably effective, and led to blacks being granted equal rights under law. Therefore, the movements we see today are seeking to make blacks superior, and thus should be fought against.
b) Blacks today do not have equal rights, and must still fight for them. Therefore, the movements of the 60's were ineffective and wrong.

There's grey area between them, but that's basically what it boils down to.

I can no longer give a shit about "justice". Like it or not, I can only care about the wellfare of my race. I didn't choose this, but it's the corner I've been pushed into.

 

[The Last Stand]

I can no longer give a shit about "justice". Like it or not, I can only care about the wellfare of my race. I didn't choose this, but it's the corner I've been pushed into.

I could care less about race. I'm more about individuality at this point. Look out for my immediate interests. It's a mess.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

These days, I'm beginning to wonder if it's the original blue pill narrative. Civil Rights was used to weaken States Rights on a moral level which led to massive expansion of the Federal government. It also turned Black culture into Democrat NPCs that beg to be abused so long as its the Democrats doing it. At the same time, media propagated the idea racial equality, which legitimately is good. It was a also a Fabian tactic to bring in racial equity. Old black sitcoms at least required competence out of its characters, both as comedic characters and even in the characters' professions. Modern media today absolutely use racial characteristics as a substitute for competence.

 

[Autopsy]

I don't know why we haven't embraced the science™ and killed off race for ethnicity. If you point out that North Africans, West Africans, South Africans, and East Africans, and subsets of those groups are all completely different, look different, traditionally hate each-other, are biologically non-similar, and have different voting patterns, you gut any coming "civil rights movement" before it can even make it to the starting line. Likewise with certain "white" voting patterns and behaviors, if you know what I mean.

These days, I'm beginning to wonder if it's the original blue pill narrative. Civil Rights was used to weaken States Rights on a moral level which led to massive expansion of the Federal government. It also turned Black culture into Democrat NPCs that beg to be abused so long as its the Democrats doing it. At the same time, media propagated the idea racial equality, which legitimately is good. It was a also a Fabian tactic to bring in racial equity. Old black sitcoms at least required competence out of its characters, both as comedic characters and even in the characters' professions. Modern media today absolutely use racial characteristics as a substitute for competence.

There is nothing contradictory about "red pill narratives" and the idea that blacks are victimized by the situation, too. Black nationalists who wanted to be productive and independent used to vote with the Klan, and were interested in taking what they learned from their time as Americans and leaving to develop Africa into something of their own. Liberia was pretty dope and continued to be a relative US ally and resource in Africa even after independence, and if it wasn't for the 1980s coup would be by a mile the richest, most developed country in Africa today.
At this point I think we're too far down the bend on shared histories for such a clean separation to be possible ever again, that ship sailed a century ago, but there's no reason to pretend that blacks getting free shit in exchange for "hating whitie + voting leftie" is somehow good for them. It's like Indians and alcohol.

 

[The Last Stand]

It also turned Black culture into Democrat NPCs that beg to be abused so long as its the Democrats doing it. At the same time, media propagated the idea racial equality, which legitimately is good.

Black Americans were never meant to have full equity. One way or another, we're being cheated or gained by the system.

 

[Akira Fudo]

Busing and affirmative action were absolute fucking train-wrecks that did nothing to help poor black people (in fact it harmed them in a lot of ways) and intensified racial hatred. It is a net good that segregation and Jim Crow has gone the way of the dodo, but I think the legislation should have stopped at dismantling laws that were keeping blacks "down" rather than pumping money into useless programs to help them.

My main issue with the Civil Rights Acts was using the power of the state through quotas, busing, and other means in order to mold Americans into these racially harmonious creatures by essentially creating a fucked up codependency. Ideal race relations in America isn't little black boys and black girls and little white boys and white girls holding hands and singing Negro spirituals, it's the ability for different groups to say "Fuck you, I got mine and you got yours'" and achieve self-determination

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The problem with any civil rights movement is that they never fucking die. Once they get their main goal reached they'll just move the goalposts to something else to justify their existence. Up to creating new issues where they were none (trans bathrroms) or actively betraying their original supporters (the L should take the D for the T).
Regarding the black civil rights movement, in the end what killed the black community is that no one tried to develop one and coupled with the government policies that favour single mother over families, blacks are worse now than the last several decades.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

integration was a mistake
segregation is superior for a good 95% of people among both races

A bit ironic is we return to segregation thanks to the "Diversity industrial complex". https://www.americanthinker.com/art...ndustry_has_turned_the_clock_backto_1960.html

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April 17, 2021

The Diversity Industry Has Turned the Clock Back...to 1960​

By John Green

When I was young, Americans prided themselves in being part of the "great melting pot" — good times. People from diverse cultures throughout the world could come here and become full-fledged Americans. Our constitution provided a framework for anyone to become successful. All that was required was determination and hard work. In achieving the American dream, our forefathers shed their ancestral heritages and became enthusiastic Americans — and that was something to be proud of. But we don't melt anymore. Now we categorize. I blame it on the diversity movement.
The diversity movement was initiated by a number of universities in the 1960s. It was initially conceived as a way to address genuine equal opportunity issues. It was viewed by many organizations as a way to avoid lawsuits based on discrimination. In the 1980s, Lewis Griggs coined the term "valuing diversity" — and that's when it really took off. The ideology of "valuing diversity" has infiltrated the human resources (H.R.) departments of most major corporations and spawned an industry. A network of consultants and trainers now provide diversity training throughout government and the private sector. It's big money. Unfortunately, its ideology runs counter to that of a "great melting pot."

I have an example to illustrate its corrosive nature. At the behest of our H.R. department, the company I used to work for created a diversity council. It comprised representatives from numerous racial, ethnic, sex, disability, and religious groups. Its mission was to create a company environment that was welcoming to all of the above groups. The council wanted a high-level executive to be a member, to give them some "juice." They asked the company president to assign my boss to the council. Bob was a retired admiral and 100% proud American. He was also descended from Latino ancestors. As a person "of color," he'd be an automatic supporter of this initiative. All minorities think alike — don't they?

Bob had me tag along for his first Diversity Council meeting, because every admiral needs at least one aide in tow. The council set about their mission with a brainstorming session. "We should have a Kwanzaa day in the factory." "There should be a gay pride day as well." "Maybe we could have an ethnic food day in the cafeteria." This went on for hours.
Bob listened to everyone's ideas quietly. At the end of the meeting, he provided his own input. "The key is to help people from different cultures assimilate into our culture." That single sentence ended Bob's involvement in the Diversity Council. He was asked to leave and never come back. That's when I had an epiphany.

You see, "melting pot" is a metaphor for "assimilation," and assimilation wasn't the goal of the Diversity Council. That line of thinking was just a little too diverse for the Diversity Council. They wanted diversity — as in maintenance of our differences. They did not want assimilation — creation of a shared culture. The very words "valuing diversity" call for elevating the importance of our differences over our similarities. If our inherent humanity is of lesser value than our racial identity, we shouldn't be surprised that saying, "All lives matter" is now considered racially insensitive. Who could've seen that this was the end result of "valuing diversity"?

 

[Noir drag freak]

These days, I'm beginning to wonder if it's the original blue pill narrative. Civil Rights was used to weaken States Rights on a moral level which led to massive expansion of the Federal government. It also turned Black culture into Democrat NPCs that beg to be abused so long as its the Democrats doing it. At the same time, media propagated the idea racial equality, which legitimately is good. It was a also a Fabian tactic to bring in racial equity. Old black sitcoms at least required competence out of its characters, both as comedic characters and even in the characters' professions. Modern media today absolutely use racial characteristics as a substitute for competence.

Both parties used blacks and gained nothing from it.

At this point I think we're too far down the bend on shared histories for such a clean separation to be possible ever again, that ship sailed a century ago, but there's no reason to pretend that blacks getting free shit in exchange for "hating whitie + voting leftie" is somehow good for them. It's like Indians and alcohol.

Blacks can be divided into three classes noted in the Autobiography of an Ex-Colored Man.

Spoiler

 

[Autopsy]

Blacks can be divided into three classes noted in the Autobiography of an Ex-Colored Man.

The third category of educated blacks who self-separate by dignity is, if not interrupted by social factors, a self-perpetuating class, while the so-called "desperate blacks" are dysgenic. You would expect that group to dwindle as societal factors allow, but the underlying tension of that class is also racial animus (misplaced or not) against whites that prevents more advantageous behavior or an amicable relationship with high culture.

What happened instead is that by the time the 70s were rolling around, even as new opportunities allowed blacks to posture themselves for entry into an educated space and to claim their dignity, community leaders and political agitators set about generating that same animus. Children of educated blacks decided it was more proper to live like they were poor and downtrodden, and the group that was previously the friendly window for whites decided that 'enough was enough' despite their personal good relations, so even as the actual raw wealth of blacks has increased over time, the ratios of the second category (especially) and the third category relative to the first have shrunk.
These are the tools of oppression: work ethic, amicability, and white-dominated workspaces, so avoid all three.

I don't know how racial animus and free shit is supposed to be a good substitution for mutual respect and attempts to either bridge cultures or separate, but that's the way it went.
Roots is probably the most egregious and influential example of "evil whitie porn" IMO.

 

[Tree]

Its legacy is as the biggest grift in history for niggers and jews, and other third worlders. Anyone with honor is pushed to the side as the rootless immigrants run for the borders instead of trying to build something where their heritage lie, only pushing on the globalism and further destruction of their identity their fathers worked hard to earn them, or that they could have earned for themselves. Instead we race towards a word of interchangeable, faceless cogs, unwilling to be the ones to deny people their dystopian daydreams.

 

[ClownBrew]

tragic mistake that's turned us into one gigantic South Africa

 

[Johan Schmidt]

An absolute disaster for whites. Really a shit thing all around.

 

[Akira Fudo]

tragic mistake that's turned us into one gigantic South Africa

Shit here is bad but it ain't that bad. Compared to SA we're practically the Garden of Eden