Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

[Hellbound Hellhound]

The drawback of diminishing the United States' moral legitimacy, which you kikes are responsible for, is that most people stop caring what this government declares to be a 'terrorist organization.' I utterly hate Israel, and I would consider it moralizing to see a like-minded organization in any form of power.

Israel is a beacon of pluralism and opportunity in an otherwise despotic and backward part of the world. Why would you spend so much of your energy hating them when their enemies are clearly so much worse?

 

[Str8Bustah]

Israel is a beacon of pluralism and opportunity in an otherwise despotic and backward part of the world. Why would you spend so much of your energy hating them when their enemies are clearly so much worse?

because it's filled with kikes and hadrian should have purged them even harder back when he did the sacking of the temples.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Israel is a beacon of pluralism and opportunity in an otherwise despotic and backward part of the world. Why would you spend so much of your energy hating them when their enemies are clearly so much worse?

Many Arab countries are opportunistic, like UAE.
I don't understand why I should like Israel. I respect and admire them for withstanding their ground, but so what?

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Many Arab countries are opportunistic, like UAE.
I don't understand why I should like Israel. I respect and admire them for withstanding their ground, but so what?

The wealth of those countries is owed almost exclusively to their oil reserves. They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights, and if it wasn't for Western expertise, they'd be just as poor as they were before they struck oil. My point still stands.

 

[AnOminous]

You're still here? It's over. Go home.

Nice Ferris Bueller reference.

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Things like this always remind me of the old joke where Hitler is telling his cabinet okay, so we are going to kill six million Jews and one blonde chick with big tits and Goebbels is like why are we killing a blonde chick with big tits? And Hitler says "see I told you nobody would care about the Jews."

 

[LurkNoMore]

They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights,

Lol, we have pedophiles dressing in drag in front of children and doctors mutilating the genitals of those same kids the next day. All while criminals terrorize citizens and the murder rate climbs. That "social progress" is a bowl of shit. I don't blame the arabs for wanting to be backwards and not wanting to eat shit.

 

[DumbDude42]

The wealth of those countries is owed almost exclusively to their oil reserves. They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights, and if it wasn't for Western expertise, they'd be just as poor as they were before they struck oil. My point still stands.

'social progress' is cancer tbh and 'human rights' is a meme
israel has a large tech and wealth advantage mostly due to receiving bazillions of aid from guilt tripped eurofags and AIPAC controlled america

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Lol, we have pedophiles dressing in drag in front of children and doctors mutilating the genitals of those same kids the next day. All while criminals terrorize citizens and the murder rate climbs. That "social progress" is a bowl of shit. I don't the arabs for wanting to be backwards and not wanting to eat shit.

The crime rate in the Western world is historically low, and it's low in Israel too. You bring up some red herrings that the vast majority of Westerners don't support, while neglecting to mention the litany of barbaric practices and attitudes which a significant number of citizens across the Arab world statistically do support. There is simply no comparison between the two things.

'social progress' is cancer tbh and 'human rights' is a meme
israel has a large tech and wealth advantage mostly due to receiving bazillions of aid from guilt tripped eurofags and AIPAC controlled america

Israel has a vast advantage in the realms of science and technology because it has a culture which values the things which lead to progress and innovation: like education, critical thinking, and resourcefulness. They don't need Western aid; they can more than pay for themselves, and if you look at the data, they mostly do.

 

[biozeminadae1]

The wealth of those countries is owed almost exclusively to their oil reserves. They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights, and if it wasn't for Western expertise, they'd be just as poor as they were before they struck oil. My point still stands.

Okay, but the only reason why Israel is so advanced is because all of the people from 1947 - 60 are de facto European Jews, educated in European standards. Israel started out at a much brighter spot than the Arabs. And, ironically, them being so often at war, a small state versus the Arab world, has created a strong sense of philia among the citizens, whereas that hasn't happened in the Arabic world.

 

[LurkNoMore]

The crime rate in the Western world is historically low, and it's low in Israel too.

Yes, Historically low, not recently low. As a mountain starts with a lowly rise, so does a trend start with such humbleness.

You bring up some red herrings that the vast majority of Westerners don't support, while neglecting to mention the litany of barbaric practices and attitudes which a significant number of citizens across the Arab world statistically do support. There is simply no comparison between the two things.

Red herrings my ass. Weather or not that vast majority of westerners support it or not is irrelevant to the point. It exists with hardly any major pushback for what it deserves. Oh and I bet most people are still supportive of BLM despite the past year of "protesting".

I didn't ignore the barbaric practices. I even stated I don't blame them for be backwards.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Red herrings my ass. Weather or not that vast majority of westerners support it or not is irrelevant to the point. It exists with hardly any major pushback for what it deserves. Oh and I bet most people are still supportive of BLM despite the past year of "protesting".

There's plenty of pushback; you just have to bother to look for it. The reason it doesn't tend to make front page news is because it's an immensely marginal issue which affects a tiny number of people at worst, whereas the daily displays of barbarity which afflict the Middle East are both commonplace and systemic.

Like I said, it makes no sense to mention one as an attempt to excuse the other. There is simply no comparison.

 

[biiguy]

It begins.

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After having Israeli civilians shot at for so long, it was about time.

 

[LurkNoMore]

There's plenty of pushback; you just have to bother to look for it. The reason it doesn't tend to make front page news is because it's an immensely marginal issue which affects a tiny number of people at worst, whereas the daily displays of barbarity which afflict the Middle East are both commonplace and systemic.

Like I said, it makes no sense to mention one as an attempt to excuse the other. There is simply no comparison.

Your joking right?
BLM/Antifa have
- Burned down a police precinct without a shot fired
- Attempted to do the same to a federal courthouse while assualting the officers sent there to stop them with hammers without a shot fired, and the cops themselves where painted as a foreign occupying army.
- Tried on multiple occasions to kill/seriously harm people by throwing trailer hitchs and tree limbs and whatever else through windshields without getting shot and when someone pulls a gun on them. The person with a gun gets arrested.
- Blocked multiple large roadways and fired shoots into the various cars/trucks that tried to go around them, again without any major pushback
- Vandalized dozens of monuments by either painting graffiti on them or outright pulling them down. Including the likes of Washington and Lincoln.
- Burned and looted countless shops/stores with impunity
- Set parts of the capital on fire while trying to break into the white house
- Had a well known member try to assualt a government facility with a gun and set it on fire, resulting in getting killed, without his movement being branded a terrorist organization.
- Done all this while either having charges dropped or reduced to slaps on the wrist

And all this is just BLM stuff. If there was any proper push back then the cops and DAs be would be arresting these people on the spot and giving them decades long prison sentences. For fear that the common citizens would begin hunting these people down like the criminals they are.

The only reason they are not engaging in bombing/IEDs and open attacks on anyone that doesn't agree with them is because they lack the committed numbers and resources. Give the US another decade of incompetent rule and further destabilization and they will act like any Mexican cartel or middle east militia/terror group.

 

[biozeminadae1]

There's plenty of pushback; you just have to bother to look for it. The reason it doesn't tend to make front page news is because it's an immensely marginal issue which affects a tiny number of people at worst, whereas the daily displays of barbarity which afflict the Middle East are both commonplace and systemic.

Like I said, it makes no sense to mention one as an attempt to excuse the other. There is simply no comparison.

Are you a fed by any chance? I assume you can't be one, since you're from 2018. That's way too long for feds to be active on the site.

Then again, the way you marginalize the impact the left has demonstrated last year is very weird.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Your joking right?
BLM/Antifa have
- Burned down a police precinct without a shot fired
- Attempted to do the same to a federal courthouse while assualting the officers sent there to stop them with hammers without a shot fired, and the cops themselves where painted as a foreign occupying army.
- Tried on multiple occasions to kill/seriously harm people by throwing trailer hitchs and tree limbs and whatever else through windshields without getting shot and when someone pulls a gun on them. The person with a gun gets arrested.
- Blocked multiple large roadways and fired shoots into the various cars/trucks that tried to go around them, again without any major pushback
- Vandalized dozens of monuments by either painting graffiti on them or outright pulling them down. Including the likes of Washington and Lincoln.
- Burned and looted countless shops/stores with impunity
- Set parts of the capital on fire while trying to break into the white house
- Had a well known member try to assualt a government facility with a gun and set it on fire, resulting in getting killed, without his movement being branded a terrorist organization.
- Done all this while either having charges dropped or reduced to slaps on the wrist

And all this is just BLM stuff. If there was any proper push back then the cops and DAs be would be arresting these people on the spot and giving them decades long prison sentences. For fear that the common citizens would begin hunting these people down like the criminals they are.

The only reason they are not engaging in bombing/IEDs and open attacks on anyone that doesn't agree with them is because they lack the committed numbers and resources. Give the US another decade of incompetent rule and further destabilization and they will act like any Mexican cartel or middle east militia/terror group.

If you're seriously comparing the recent racial unrest in America to the ongoing problems in the Middle East then you clearly have no perspective of the world around you.

There have been an estimated 14000 arrests since the riots began across the US, and in the times when the police did fail to contain the chaos, there have still been less deaths overall than the Israel-Gaza conflict is able to create in a single day. If we narrow our focus to the recent crisis, it's an order of magnitude less.

Then again, the way you marginalize the impact the left has demonstrated last year is very weird.

I'm not attempting to marginalize anything; I simply have some perspective. It is estimated that the riots across America in the last year have led to 400 injuries and 25 deaths. The UN, meanwhile, estimates that upwards of 5000 women are murdered every single year across the Middle East in so-called "honor killings", which statistics indicate are supported by up to half the population in many of the countries concerned.

Like I said, there is no comparison between the two cultures, and it is the height of hypocrisy to speak of the need to maintain order and civility on American streets while downplaying Israel's right to do the same on theirs; especially when the stakes for Israel are that much higher.

 

[biozeminadae1]

I'm not attempting to marginalize anything; I simply have some perspective. It is estimated that the riots across America in the last year have led to 400 injuries and 25 deaths. The UN, meanwhile, estimates that upwards of 5000 women are murdered every single year across the Middle East in so-called "honor killings", which statistics indicate are supported by up to half the population in many of the countries concerned.

Like I said, there is no comparison between the two cultures, and it is the height of hypocrisy to speak of the need to maintain order and civility on American streets while downplaying Israel's right to do the same on theirs; especially when the stakes for Israel are that much higher.

They're not "so-called" - they are honor killings, because societal stigma, circumvented by honor, are important parts of all of the Asian cultures. For their cultures it makes sense that honor must be upheld. For guilt-ridden Eurofags and their descendants who bend the knee to the minorities and tend to the needs of every fucking feminist maybe it doesn't.

As for Israel - who the hell is downplaying anything? Half the thread wants those Palestinians destroyed, the other half wants Palestine and Israel to destroy each-other.

 

[LurkNoMore]

If you're seriously comparing the recent racial unrest in America to the ongoing problems in the Middle East then you clearly have no perspective of the world around you.

There have been an estimated 14000 arrests since the riots began across the US, and in the times when the police did fail to contain the chaos, there have still been less deaths overall than the Israel-Gaza conflict is able to create in a single day. If we narrow our focus to the recent crisis, it's an order of magnitude less.

Lol, your a joke. Obviously a war involving rockets and fighter jets and guided bombs is going to have a higher death toll. Of course.

14000 arrests that result in quick releases and dropped charges. Hardly the reassuring figure you think it is.

You seem to confuse ability and intent. The intent of BLM and antifa has been a genocidal anarchist revolution from day one. The fact they can't carry it out doesn't subtract from their intentions. Give it a decade of this and will see how many bodies there are at the end.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

They're not "so-called" - they are honor killings, because societal stigma, circumvented by honor, are important parts of all of the Asian cultures. For their cultures it makes sense that honor must be upheld. For guilt-ridden Eurofags and their descendants who bend the knee to the minorities and tend to the needs of every fucking feminist maybe it doesn't.

If you truly wish to live in some backward theocratic dystopia then feel free to move to one, but most people in the civilized world have a healthy respect for civilization, and there are few places in the world where the dichotomy is more pronounced than it is between Israel and Gaza.

You seem to confuse ability and intent. The intent of BLM and antifa has been a genocidal anarchist revolution from day one. The fact they can't carry it out doesn't subtract from their intentions. Give it a decade of this and will see how many bodies there are at the end.

BLM and Antifa are mostly just kids who want to LARP as revolutionaries, with a lot of criminal opportunists hitched to the bandwagon. Hamas is a terrorist organization which seeks the destruction of Israel as it's stated goal.

Your insinuation that there is an escalation of unrest in the United States is also demonstrably false, as both the protests and the riots have been dying down for months: daily arrests peaked last June, as did the number of demonstrations associated with BLM and Antifa.

Groups like Hamas, meanwhile, remain committed and organized, and they're not merely civilian troublemakers; they're the de facto government of the Gaza Strip. Once again, you have no sense of perspective.

 

[biozeminadae1]

If you truly wish to live in some backward theocratic dystopia then feel free to move to one, but most people in the civilized world have a healthy respect for civilization, and there are few places in the world where the dichotomy is more pronounced than it is between Israel and Gaza.

BLM and Antifa are mostly just kids who want to LARP as revolutionaries, with a lot of criminal opportunists hitched to the bandwagon. Hamas is a terrorist organization which seeks the destruction of Israel as it's stated goal.

Your insinuation that there is an escalation of unrest in the United States is also demonstrably false, as both the protests and the riots have been dying down for months: daily arrests peaked last June, as did the number of demonstrations associated with BLM and Antifa.

Groups like Hamas, meanwhile, remain committed and organized, and they're not merely civilian troublemakers; they're the de facto government of the Gaza Strip. Once again, you have no sense of perspective.

Lmao, they are civilized, and have nearly 3000 years of civilized history over any European. And I wouldn't call them backward.

Half of the Middle East is to be the Next 11, a group of powerful economies to emerge in the next decade or so. The only theocracies so far are Iran(Next 11) and Saudi Arabia, whereas the other Muslim countries are pretty secular in their governments.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Lmao, they are civilized, and have nearly 3000 years of civilized history over any European. And I wouldn't call them backward.

Half of the Middle East is to be the Next 11, a group of powerful economies to emerge in the next decade or so. The only theocracies so far are Iran(Next 11) and Saudi Arabia, whereas the other Muslim countries are pretty secular in their governments.

The definition of civilized is an advanced stage of social and cultural development, and the present-day Middle East is not more advanced than present-day Europe or Israel.

Israel and most of Europe are comprised of functioning democratic states which uphold human rights, provide education to all of their citizens, and create the conditions for economic opportunity and technological development. The same cannot be said for most of Israel's neighbors, and it certainly cannot be said for their enemies.