Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

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And of course we are too gutless to nuke Saudi Arabia, which we should have done on 9/12 if not sooner.
Were gutless to nuke Beijing and Pyongyang. Just like were gutless to nuke Moscow.
Lol, we have pedophiles dressing in drag in front of children
Thats a good idea. Pedos can show off their bulge in a pride parade.
Very progressive . . .whatever you call it.
 

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Firing bullets into the air isn't as fatal of an endeavor as people think it is.
But when they do hit, for obvious reasons, it's often in the head. In one seven year period in one hospital in Los Angeles alone, 118 people were hit by falling bullets, and 38 of them died. It still causes a substantial number of injuries and deaths.

"Incorvaia, A.N.; Poulos, D.M.; Jones, R.N.; Tschirhart, J.M. (2007-01-01). "Can a Falling Bullet Be Lethal at Terminal Velocity? Cardiac Injury Caused by a Celebratory Bullet". The Annals of Thoracic Surgery. 83 (1): 283–4. doi:10.1016/j.athoracsur.2006.04.046. PMID 17184680. Archived from the original (abstract) on 2007-09-28. Retrieved 2007-08-02."

The cause of injury wouldn't be that it goes through your entire body but that it just cracks your skull like an eggshell. It still has substantial mass and is traveling at high velocity, even if it is slow compared to when it comes out of the muzzle of a gun. It's not like it's just a falling coin.

That's from the wikipedia article as a disclaimer, and the article itself behind a paywall, but the other main example I know of is in places like Rio de Janeiro where "happy fire" is really common, and so are injuries from it, sometimes fatal.
 

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But when they do hit, for obvious reasons, it's often in the head. In one seven year period in one hospital in Los Angeles alone, 118 people were hit by falling bullets, and 38 of them died. It still causes a substantial number of injuries and deaths.

"Incorvaia, A.N.; Poulos, D.M.; Jones, R.N.; Tschirhart, J.M. (2007-01-01). "Can a Falling Bullet Be Lethal at Terminal Velocity? Cardiac Injury Caused by a Celebratory Bullet". The Annals of Thoracic Surgery. 83 (1): 283–4. doi:10.1016/j.athoracsur.2006.04.046. PMID 17184680. Archived from the original (abstract) on 2007-09-28. Retrieved 2007-08-02."

The cause of injury wouldn't be that it goes through your entire body but that it just cracks your skull like an eggshell. It still has substantial mass and is traveling at high velocity, even if it is slow compared to when it comes out of the muzzle of a gun. It's not like it's just a falling coin.

That's from the wikipedia article as a disclaimer, and the article itself behind a paywall, but the other main example I know of is in places like Rio de Janeiro where "happy fire" is really common, and so are injuries from it, sometimes fatal.
I'm curious what the hosptal's definition of what a shot in the air is. Probably anything that would go over a roof that would still have significant horizontal speed when it lands.
 

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Hellbound Hellhound

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could you at least stop with these straight up lies? it's fucking embarassing

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(and these numbers are still inflated because they count participation in some govt subsidized or straight up govt run 'education and training' programmes as full time employment too)
Preach on ! The retard doggo also forgot that "drug dealer" and "smuggler" are also not valid professions. Which most immigrants who aren't welfare leeches are. Oh, and there is terrorist too, does that count as being not on welfare lol?

Democracy was a mistake made by greek faggots. Fuck Greece.
That data only includes asylum seekers; not immigration in total. According to 2019 figures, only 9% of the people who immigrated to Europe did so to seek asylum, which is far less than the 82% who came for work, family, and education reasons (41%, 27%, and 14%, respectively). [source].

If you look at the employment figures for immigrants in general, the figures paint a very different picture (relevant demographics specifically included):
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(above is data from the UK).

The only thing that's embarrassing in this thread is the repeated implication from posters such as yourselves that there is no clear discrepancy in virtue between the contrasting cultures which are embroiled in the Israel-Palestine conflict. The way that you need to work yourselves into a pretzel to either deny or downplay the fact that Israel and Europe have clearly built better societies than those of their Middle Eastern enemies is genuinely perplexing.

What's the endgame exactly? Do you seriously think that Israel would be better off under Hamas governance?
 

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That data only includes asylum seekers; not immigration in total. According to 2019 figures, only 9% of the people who immigrated to Europe did so to seek asylum, which is far less than the 82% who came for work, family, and education reasons (41%, 27%, and 14%, respectively). [source].

If you look at the employment figures for immigrants in general, the figures paint a very different picture (relevant demographics specifically included):
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(above is data from the UK).

The only thing that's embarrassing in this thread is the repeated implication from posters such as yourselves that there is no clear discrepancy in virtue between the contrasting cultures which are embroiled in the Israel-Palestine conflict. The way that you need to work yourselves into a pretzel to either deny or downplay the fact that Israel and Europe have clearly built better societies than those of their Middle Eastern enemies is genuinely perplexing.

What's the endgame exactly? Do you seriously think that Israel would be better off under Hamas governance?

Are those stats including chinamen as well, instead of just kebab? Still, I doubt anything the cucked west makes. Statistics, studies, sciences, all of it is SJW busted. When societal focus is on deifying minorities and making excuses for them, science goes wayside. The dismissal of eugenics (Also known as animal husbandry) and even biological sex (inventing something fake called gender) by western world is a clear sign of a delusional society that thinks science is fee-fees, not facts.

And no, I think the place would be better under Russian or Chinese control, not the Hamas lol.

I think the orient is just better than the west, and that Eastern Europe is in the middle ground. Western Europe and its sphere is decidedly a declining, degenerate society that will soon bow to Chyna Numbah Wan or the immovable, eternal might of Russia.
 

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I think the orient is just better than the west, and that Eastern Europe is in the middle ground. Western Europe and its sphere is decidedly a declining, degenerate society that will soon bow to Chyna Numbah Wan or the immovable, eternal might of Russia.
You're a moron then, because neither Russia nor China have built better societies than Israel or Western Europe, and it's not even close.

Russia is a country in a state of precipitous economic, political, and demographic decline, with a population literally drinking themselves to death (data suggests that 30% of deaths in Russia are alcohol related; the highest in the world), while China is an Orwellian nightmare of a society which is built on a flimsy economic gamble that is bound to come apart in the coming decades (the advent of increasing automation and more competitive markets to their south will see to that).

Neither represent preferable alternatives to democratic, pluralistic leadership, and all you have to explain this away are silly culture war red herrings that the vast majority of Western Europeans and Israelis neither embody nor support. You're not the first in this thread to resort to that tactic either. Get a better argument.
 

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You're a moron then, because neither Russia nor China have built better societies than Israel or Western Europe, and it's not even close.

Russia is a country in a state of precipitous economic, political, and demographic decline, with a population literally drinking themselves to death (data suggests that 30% of deaths in Russia are alcohol related; the highest in the world), while China is an Orwellian nightmare of a society which is built on a flimsy economic gamble that is bound to come apart in the coming decades (the advent of increasing automation and more competitive markets to their south will see to that).

Neither represent preferable alternatives to democratic, pluralistic leadership, and all you have to explain this away are silly culture war red herrings that the vast majority of Western Europeans and Israelis neither embody nor support. You're not the first in this thread to resort to that tactic either. Get a better argument.

Your metrics are retarded. You think that a civilisation's worthiness is based on how much it adheres to western "values" . It does not. A civilisation's value is in how well it defends its culture, its land, and how much it produces.

Russia is good at defense, and China is very good at producing. Can you imagine European Union actually matching Russia in military or China in production? If you do, I got a bridge to sell you.
 

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Your metrics are retarded. You think that a civilisation's worthiness is based on how much it adheres to western "values" . It does not. A civilisation's value is in how well it defends its culture, its land, and how much it produces.

Russia is good at defense, and China is very good at producing. Can you imagine European Union actually matching Russia in military or China in production? If you do, I got a bridge to sell you.
Russia is a house of cards likely to fall over as soon as Putin leaves office, because he's done a very, very good job of making sure there's no successor waiting in the wings. You also completely glossed over their demographic and economic issues, and the fact that their military is just as fucked up, if not more-so, than it was in 1988, the fall of the USSR and the rise of the kleptocratic oligarchs since then only making things worse. Their military has floundered around in the MidEast accomplishing nothing but giving their grave diggers a lot of on-the-job experience, and they've been completely unable to do anything about the half of Ukraine that isn't comprised of ethnic Russians. Eastern Europe could probably hold against a Russian assault all by itself long enough for a few USAF planes to bomb the Russian lines into the stone age, assuming the whole thing didn't immediately collapse because all the tank crews and supply truck drivers are drunk and drive into the nearest ditches, or developed "engine trouble" caused by a few crates of expensive booze delivered to the CO's.

As for China, same deal. Their demographic issues are a timebomb, aging worse than Japan thanks to their One Child policy, they are completely dependent on the West, primarily the USA, for food imports, their production is decreasing as companies move south to Thailand and Vietnam because those places won't assrape their IP's or cheat their buyers like the Chinese do, the whole economy is a bubble propped up by ghost cities and government consumption... and somehow their entire military makes Russia's look capable with the complete lack of training, morale, and professionalism, but an absurd degree of corruption to the point that they can't even vaccinate their troops because someone sold off the nickel that was supposed to go into the injection needles.
 

Male Idiot

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That doomposting has been the same for a decade now, they are always "collapsing" and "will collapse soon" just as the world is always ending due to "muh global warming" and such. These forecasts of doom are the same as the climate change, a falsehood perpetuated on sheep.

Yet it was not the Russian or Chinese cities that burned because a criminal monkey got ODd during an arrest..... they would have put BLM down. US can't even handle that. Somalia tier anti-insurrection work there.
 

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Yet it was not the Russian or Chinese cities that burned because a criminal monkey got ODd during an arrest..... they would have put BLM down. US can't even handle that. Somalia tier anti-insurrection work there.
They only let them burn down their own parts of the cities which were already absolute ass. You didn't see Beverly Hills burning to the ground.
 

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When you shoot a goose, it's usually a couple hundred feet off the ground. What's the ceiling for surveillance drones? I think quad copters can do a couple thousand feet where fixed wing drones can probably do up to 10,000. They also move a lot faster than a goose. When you're trying to lead a target in the sky, you don't have a reference point in your sight picture so every shot taken with a traditional projectile is an uneducated guess at best. There's a reason why standard issue rifles don't have aircraft sights on them. Even a slow WWII aircraft flying low is extremely hard to hit. There are instances of people shooting down drones with bird shot, but it's usually a hobby drone that's hovering less than 100ft from the ground. It wouldn't surprised me if bird shot would bounce off most military drones because the velocity lost from shooting up. Now you're fighting atmospheric drag as well as gravity.

@Male Idiot @AnOminous According to an Army study, the terminal velocity for a .30 cal bullet is about 200mph (about 293.3 fps). I believe the average weight of a standard issue 7.62x39 bullet is 122 grains. Punch those numbers into a muzzle energy calculator and a falling AK round is distributing about 23.31 ft/lbs of energy to whatever it hits. That's close to the energy of a horizontally fired paintball (about 51 grains moving at about 300fps for 10.9 ft/lbs of energy.) Firing bullets into the air isn't as fatal of an endeavor as people think it is.
Suprised we haven't seen nigger-rigged converted microwave guns to take out drones tbh. I'm sure you could look up a tutorial on google.
 

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They only let them burn down their own parts of the cities which were already absolute ass. You didn't see Beverly Hills burning to the ground.

Of course not, we know if they got near Pelosi's house BLM would have been grounded into mashed potatoes by private security. But it still looked really, really bad, as long as you look at it with non-western eyes. It was akin to a "hit me, I'm retarded" sign written in autocrat speak.
 

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Your metrics are retarded. You think that a civilisation's worthiness is based on how much it adheres to western "values" . It does not. A civilisation's value is in how well it defends its culture, its land, and how much it produces.

Russia is good at defense, and China is very good at producing. Can you imagine European Union actually matching Russia in military or China in production? If you do, I got a bridge to sell you.
I think a civilization's worth is measured by how effectively it can advance human betterment, and the values which Israel and Western Europe embody are obviously far more effective at doing that than the values represented by Putin, the CCP, or Hamas.

Societies which are democratic and pluralistic foster innovation and progress, and the evidence speaks for itself: Israel invests more in research and development per capita than any other country on the planet, and the ten countries which rank highest on the International Innovation Index are all democracies.

China may be an economic powerhouse, but if you look at it's intellectual property, it's industriousness is not matched by innovation. Russia and Gaza, meanwhile, are autocratic backwaters with no future.
 

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Societies which are democratic and pluralistic foster innovation and progress, and the evidence speaks for itself: Israel invests more in research and development per capita than any other country on the planet, and the ten countries which rank highest on the International Innovation Index are all democracies.
To be fair, the fostering innovation and progress part only really works in a society, democratic or otherwise, if the people pushing it actually know what they're doing and are offering practical help. Otherwise, it's pretty much meaningless.
 

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