Clinton now wants a recount - after ridiculing Trump for undermining the democratic process should he have done the same.


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Clinton Joining Recount Gets Sore Loser Jibe From Team Trump

Hillary Clinton’s campaign lawyer announced plans to participate in vote recounts of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan if they take place, drawing a sharp response from Donald Trump’s team that the Democrat is being a “sore loser.”

If Green Party candidate Jill Stein initiates recounts in those states as she intends, the Clinton campaign “will participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides,” lawyer Marc Elias said Saturday in a post on the blogging website He added that he doesn’t expect the action to overturn Donald Trump’s election as president.

The move prompted a rejoinder from Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, now a senior adviser to the president-elect.

“What a pack of sore losers,” Conway said in a statement to Bloomberg. “After asking Mr. Trump and his team a million times on the trail, ‘Will HE accept the election results?’ it turns out Team Hillary and their new BFF Jill Stein can’t accept reality.”

“Rather than adhere to the tradition of graciously conceding and wishing the winner well, they’ve opted to waste millions of dollars and dismiss the democratic process. The people have spoken. Time to listen up. #YesYourPresident,” Conway said.

Stein says on her website that she’s raised more than $5.7 million for her recount effort so far, with a $7 million goal. The funds raised so far will cover costs in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
No ‘Actionable’ Evidence
The Democrat’s campaign didn’t plan to initiate the recounts on its own because it hasn’t found “any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology,” Elias wrote.

A senior administration official, meanwhile, said in a statement that the government didn’t observe any increased level of malicious cyber activity aimed at disrupting the election on election day and believes the elections were free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective.

Elias also isn’t expecting the recounts to erase what he said was a 107,000 combined vote margin separating the candidates in the three battleground states and overturning the election of Trump, who is due to be sworn in as president in January.

Obligation to Voters

Cook Political Report shows Clinton ahead in the nationwide popular vote by about 2.2 million votes, 64.6 million to 62.4 million. In 13 swing states Trump received almost 22.2 million votes to Clinton’s 21.3 million. He won the Electoral College by 306 to Clinton’s 232.


I was just about to make a thread about this. This reeks of classic Clinton-style Astroturf (Trying to disguise a big-money operation as "Grass Roots").

Stein suddenly appears with several million dollars from really sketchy "Fundraising" and testimonials from "Respected experts" on computer security, demanding a recount at the last possible second.

All the usual liberal shill-rags (HuffPo, WashPo, Guardian, ect) IMMEDIATELY pick up the story, it immediately "Trends" on Facebook with thousands upon thousands of dummy accounts posting the same word-for-word comment:

Just search for how many TOTALLY REAL profiles posted this exact comment:
Jill Stein is doing America a service. Just 90 minutes before Wisconsin’s 5 pm deadline today for filing with the state’s Election Commission, she filed her petition for an election recount in Wisconsin. She has standing to seek such a recount because she was on the ballot in Wisconsin, and has raised over $5 million so far to pay for it. She also promises to seek recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan. If the recounts show Hillary Clinton won these three states, Clinton will have secured enough electoral votes to win the election. (Electors officially submit their ballots December 19.)

As I noted yesterday, a group of data experts and election lawyers have urged such a recount in these three states on suspicion that a cyber-attack could have manipulated the results of the election – noting anomalies suggesting that Clinton did more poorly in Wisconsin counties that used voting machines, as opposed to those that relied on paper ballots. (It’s no small irony that if all Stein votes in Wisconsin had gone to Clinton, Clinton would have won the state even without a recount.)

If Stein’s campaign wishes to file recount petitions in the other states as promised, she must do so by Monday to meet Pennsylvania’s deadline, and Wednesday to meet the Nov. 30 deadline in Michigan.
I think we owe Jill Stein our thanks (and our donations to get this recount done as well).

What do you think?

...and you'll start to see that there aren't any "Grass roots" to this at all.

IMO, this might be that "Rigged Election" stuff that Trump brought up and everyone laughed at. A candidate with less than 1% of the vote who went on record as hating Hillary suddenly gets a huge influx of funding and media coverage for a recount. And the Clinton campaign, who declined the option for recounts because they hadn't found anything strange, suddenly lawyers up and joins in full force.

Get ready for a real shit-show folks. But no matter what happens THE SALT MUST FLOW.


IIRC, Michigan already did a voluntary recount because it was a close win. But Penn and Wisconsin didn't because Trump won by a sizeable margin in both.

I'm personally just getting disgusted by the behavior of the media. There is almost no legit journalism in the mainstream at all. No investigation, no unbiased reporting, no questioning the official party story. Just mindlessly, shamelessly shilling for whoever's writing the checks.

And now with Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit getting caught red-handed editing/deleting posts and letting fake accounts artificially make things trend and "go viral" but recieving no blowback from it, it's pretty clear how deep this bullshit goes.

And what really annoys me is that they don't even have to be subtle about it anymore. Folks are either so used to it or drinking so muchof the Kool-Aid that no one does anything about it.

Oh well, I'll stop sperging about it and get back to the really important stuff. The salt.

As for the Hillary butthurt, between the shady recounts and their stupid attempts to get Faithless Electors in the EC to undermine the election, I think it's safe to say they're at the "Bargaining" stage of grief.

And the far right are saying they should recount some blue states just to see how many illegals, dead people, and felons managed to vote for Hillary there...


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2 funniest outcomes:

1) They actually do find irregularities - but they were in favor of Clinton.
2) Trump gets dethroned and we'll double the salt quota.

Most likely outcome:

Nothing will change aside from money being blown down a chimney.

And the far right are saying they should recount some blue states just to see how many illegals, dead people, and felons managed to vote for Hillary there...
That would be funny, too.

At this point, America should count and recount at every election - then disregard the results and just flip a coin.
At least, that system would be fair.


Can someone explain to me why a recount would be able to weed out illegitimate votes that the first count didn't?
It probably can't, honestly. Unless they get a neutral party to uncover some shady business that was swept under the rug by the folks who did the first count.

Most likely nothing is gonna change. But how this entire thing popped up is shady as hell and both sides are gonna get really pissed about it, so this is definitely relevant to Kiwi interests.


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Can't these people just wait until the midterms or the next election? They're in the best spot politically because if Trump does majorly fuck up they get none of the blame. Which means a house republican bloodbath. Like just take the loss and shape up, you're not gonna get anything good out of recounting it.


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Can't these people just wait until the midterms or the next election? They're in the best spot politically because if Trump does majorly fuck up they get none of the blame. Which means a house republican bloodbath. Like just take the loss and shape up, you're not gonna get anything good out of recounting it.
That would require most of these people actually understanding anything beyond their feels in the moment.


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Ok, wtf is her game-plan with the recounting then?
It's just like this useless cunt to barge into shit she didn't start, try to take it over, and fuck it up completely instead.

The only likely or even possible result of a recount is turning up systemic problems in the electoral process (particularly DRE voting machines) that affect everyone. Clinton becoming involved does no good to anyone. She needs to go back to her fucking cave and STFU, forever.


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I wouldn't care if Trump or Clinton demanded a recount/audit if there was an appearance of sketchiness. That's why I thought it was dumb as fuck they were trying to make Trump say he'd accept the election results before they were even in ; if it looks like tampering somebody should absolutely challenge it.

But there's no evidence of tampering here, just a bunch of idiots claiming Russia hacked their traffic lights or w/e.


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Jill Stein really couldn't care less if any of the states turn blue. She just wants to stay in the news and have people pay attention to her. That and get some extra dollars for her own political agenda.
Jill Stein said:
We cannot guarantee a recount will happen in any of these states we are targeting. We can only pledge we will demand recounts in those states.

If we raise more than what's needed, the surplus will also go toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform.

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