Closed Species - Pay $500 to draw a bedazzled fox

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SourWeasel

kiwifarms.net
Closed species are so intriguing to me because people spend exoborant amounts of money for the right to "own" these designs, only for them to become trade fodder. I've seen it happen a lot with Mignyans and Dainties. It's treating characters like a weird internet currency.
a few years ago for shits and giggles and to see who i could piss off i made a throwaway account on DA and deliberately drew closed species...i seem to have the ninja skill 'Flying Below the Radar'. if i get the urge to do this again maybe ill use tags this time. |3 call me autistic but i like to draw what i like and i want to get in a net fight. just need to turn off some innate de-escalator skills i seem to have.

Also, no one cares, dude.
 

Lou’s Biggest Fan

All Hail Blippy, the Fat-Shaming Geiger Counter
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Closed species are so intriguing to me because people spend exoborant amounts of money for the right to "own" these designs, only for them to become trade fodder. I've seen it happen a lot with Mignyans and Dainties. It's treating characters like a weird internet currency.


Also, no one cares, dude.

Next up: closed species character authenticity enforced by the blockchain and traded as the latest cryptocurrency craze :story:
 

Mountain Dew

Trapped at 9990 Beech Drive Wadsworth Ohio
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Closed species are so intriguing to me because people spend exoborant amounts of money for the right to "own" these designs, only for them to become trade fodder. I've seen it happen a lot with Mignyans and Dainties. It's treating characters like a weird internet currency.

Yeah, I know a lot of Kiwis are just luling at the fact that you have to pay to draw something or whatever, but Mignyans/Dainties have such an odd market. I feel like explaining it to people would make their head blow off but there is money to be made or labor to be traded.

Say you have a dainty made by the owner of the species (Pajuxi.) Now you have a design that people want. I am going to say design rather than character because not a ton of people people use Dainties/Mignyans for making stories because of the foddering issues. You can trade this Pajuxi-designed Dainty for other sought-after designs, (such as Mignyan made by Casin0s), or trade it for art. Reselling rarely happens because you can hypothetically trade your design for way more than it's worth monetary wise.

It's like a weird... perceived value sort of thing? And all dependent on how popular the creator is. That's just the tip of the iceberg, too.

Don't give them ideas.

If you could make a crypto currency that only let you exchange it for other characters or art, closed species designs would be pretty close to that.
 

GayDemiBoy

kiwifarms.net
If you could make a crypto currency that only let you exchange it for other characters or art, closed species designs would be pretty close to that.
That already exists within certain ARPG closed species with their own websites. Dainties have their point system which can let you obtain edit bows, crossbreed potions, MYO slots. Chimerons have their beetle system which lets users trade them in for items and slots in the community. Strudels have crumbs which let you buy slots, art, items and site pets.
 

OasisSandshymin

kiwifarms.net
Something i saw with many closed species makers is that many do have open species that are 10 times more interesting then the uninspired reinventing of the wheel species.
 

Lou’s Biggest Fan

All Hail Blippy, the Fat-Shaming Geiger Counter
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That already exists within certain ARPG closed species with their own websites. Dainties have their point system which can let you obtain edit bows, crossbreed potions, MYO slots. Chimerons have their beetle system which lets users trade them in for items and slots in the community. Strudels have crumbs which let you buy slots, art, items and site pets.

I have no issues with all of those words on their own but the fact that they’re all together in the order you put them in and it’s not a shitpost makes me want to commit a hate crime.

None of these fucking designs are original enough to warrant this over-the-top monetization. Who the fuck is even paying for this shit? If I wanted a goatman with stockings I’d just have a goatman with fucking stockings as an OC and go to any one of the countless number of artists that don’t give a shit about closed species similarity bullshit.
 

GayDemiBoy

kiwifarms.net
I have no issues with all of those words on their own but the fact that they’re all together in the order you put them in and it’s not a shitpost makes me want to commit a hate crime.

None of these fucking designs are original enough to warrant this over-the-top monetization. Who the fuck is even paying for this shit? If I wanted a goatman with stockings I’d just have a goatman with fucking stockings as an OC and go to any one of the countless number of artists that don’t give a shit about closed species similarity bullshit.
I should clarify, those systems at least for strudels and dainties aren't from actual money. Those systems require you to more or less participate in the community for those rewards. Monthly art/writing prompts, or character building. Chimerons I've seen more mixed responses on if their system is also rooted in actual money/you can buy their point shit.
 

SourWeasel

kiwifarms.net
I have no issues with all of those words on their own but the fact that they’re all together in the order you put them in and it’s not a shitpost makes me want to commit a hate crime.

None of these fucking designs are original enough to warrant this over-the-top monetization. Who the fuck is even paying for this shit? If I wanted a goatman with stockings I’d just have a goatman with fucking stockings as an OC and go to any one of the countless number of artists that don’t give a shit about closed species similarity bullshit.

I’ve heard people compare it to paying for access to participate in a community with other people, much like an exclusive club. Which is stupid, considering how people will complain how about insular and toxic these communities are.
 

Ghost Boy

Look, we all know you touched his ass.
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I've come again, baring gifts.

I found this species called Stygians!

I stumbled across them and for the most part, they seem to be dog deer things, per usual.

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As you can see, they are pretty cluttered, over colored and its honestly baffling because they sell out everytime a new batch comes out.

But the creator, Zoomutt, has a bad habit of either overdrawing them or getting her friends to do it. Here's a few examples:

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It's gotten to the point where you cant even tell they are the same species. Over priced, over drawn.

Here's the group: https://www.deviantart.com/stygian-shade
 

Kane Lives

Peace through power
kiwifarms.net
I've come again, baring gifts.

I found this species called Stygians!

I stumbled across them and for the most part, they seem to be dog deer things, per usual.

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As you can see, they are pretty cluttered, over colored and its honestly baffling because they sell out everytime a new batch comes out.

But the creator, Zoomutt, has a bad habit of either overdrawing them or getting her friends to do it. Here's a few examples:

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It's gotten to the point where you cant even tell they are the same species. Over priced, over drawn.

Here's the group: https://www.deviantart.com/stygian-shade
Jesus the colour palette on most of them. A smear of rainbows and markings that mash together incoherently to produce a horror-show.

No sane artist is gonna touch these.
 

Questionable Ceviche

True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
I've come again, baring gifts.

I found this species called Stygians!

I stumbled across them and for the most part, they seem to be dog deer things, per usual.

View attachment 1600118View attachment 1600119
View attachment 1600121View attachment 1600122View attachment 1600125

As you can see, they are pretty cluttered, over colored and its honestly baffling because they sell out everytime a new batch comes out.

But the creator, Zoomutt, has a bad habit of either overdrawing them or getting her friends to do it. Here's a few examples:

View attachment 1600129View attachment 1600130View attachment 1600131View attachment 1600132

It's gotten to the point where you cant even tell they are the same species. Over priced, over drawn.

Here's the group: https://www.deviantart.com/stygian-shade
These look like Japanese MMO bosses, and not in a good way. What a fucking mess.

No other artist will ever be willing to draw any of this shit. They're going to get 1 piece of art and that is it.
 

99 red balloons

kiwifarms.net
stygian website does have an actual, basic RPG system from what I've heard
so owning these things is more about elite status and more direct equivalent of petsites - you know, neopets and the like
the elite status is nothing new, but at least they have some interactive pseudo-game side to them compared to most of these
sometimes for the low, cheap price of 6k USD

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Questionable Ceviche

True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Any artist who's commissioned to draw overdesigned things like this shit.. I pray for them
They most likely wont, to be honest. Artists can and do turn down work. Some shitty beginner artist might agree because they're dumb and desperate, but anyone with the technical skill to handle that trainwreck will either refuse, or charge Fuck You money that the client won't be willing to pay.
 

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