Closed Species - Pay $500 to draw a bedazzled fox

[Funny Valentine]

me: here's some drama from the closed species community (trying to be relatively unbiased as I say how people feel from both sides)

Room Temperature IQ: the fuck are you on?? this is so retarded i hate genshin fans and furries ughhhh

Like, Jesus fuck. Stop throwing a fit at the messenger. This is a catty gossip website. I posted catty gossip. If you have something substantive to post, feel free to move the thread along after negrating instead of quoting my post just to whine about it.

The amount of cope you're on is immeasurable. If you're gonna say that people are talking about how some adoptable is a ripoff of a Genshin character, post proof like screenshots of comments talking about it. It'll make you look less like a MATI retard.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

me: here's some drama from the closed species community (trying to be relatively unbiased as I say how people feel from both sides)

Room Temperature IQ: the fuck are you on?? this is so retarded i hate genshin fans and furries ughhhh

Like, Jesus fuck. Stop throwing a fit at the messenger. This is a catty gossip website. I posted catty gossip. If you have something substantive to post, feel free to move the thread along after negrating instead of quoting my post just to whine about it.

we come here to laugh at dumbshit, not read the news. if people are sperging, i want screenshots of said spergouts on my desk!

 

[Sangria]

Finally decided to update the OP a bit, giving the Mignyans their own folder (due to the sheer amount of drama they bring with them) and giving a shout-out to the sergal thread, in addition to fixing a few grammar hiccups.

 

[Cockroach Milk]

New callout post on Toyhouse. It's not about closed species, just about adoptable autism in general, but it involves CloverCoin/Flipside/DankDook, aka the owner of Pillowings, mentioned here before for drawing feral porn and generally having a questionable Internet presences.

Because of the whole "not really a closed species thing but the owner of one is involved" I'm not sure if it's too off-topic or not, so I'll just spoil it. Typed the whole damn thing out and then realized Flipside wasn't as involved as I had originally thought, but I don't want my sperging to go to waste, so whatever. Let me know if there's a better place I should post this.

Spoiler

The whole doc is >80 pages of unorganized screencaps, but from what I understand, Toyhouse user Plume bought a design (not from the original creator, but from a third party) that came bundled with ~feral NSFW~ (i.e. it has a corkscrew dick in the reference). They did this knowingly, hoping they could just redesign it and.. get rid of the feral? I guess? But then people started blocking them for, you know. Having an OC with its weird animal cock out. So they decided they wanted to axe it and trade it off to someone else.

Spoiler: The character in question

God, I hate these tiling watermarks so much.

This caught the attention of the original designer, who posted it in a Discord for feral adopts(?) in what appeared to be genuine hope to get it rehomed to someone who liked it. Between Plume's apparent aggression (conveniently, they hide a lot of their own involvement in this exchange) and the whole server riling themselves up about it, bitchfighting ensues that eventually leads to the original designer going "fuck you I'm voiding this design so I can copy/resell it".

You may be asking, "where the hell is Flipside involved"? Well. Apparently, Flipside wanted this character enough to offer to buy other people's characters (off of Plume's favorites list) to trade them for this thing. Apparently, this is a common practice, but it sure pissed Plume off for god knows what reason.



TL;DR Plume is suspiciously hesitant to get rid of this character they're supposedly uncomfortable with, an entire Discord of dogfuckers plots to harass them about it, Pillowings' creator gets a piece of the action too.

The meat of the callout isn't really interesting, but I think it's fucking hilarious to buy an adopt and then turn around and go "I'm uncomfortable with this, please don't think I support this icky nasty thing I bought!"



Here's the callout thread (archive)... and the accompanying Google Doc (archive (broken)). Additionally, the character in question's profile (archive). There appears to be a large amount of backlash in the thread itself, but I don't care to dig through it since it's mostly just people shitting on Plume anyways.

 

[Catboi]

New callout post on Toyhouse. It's not about closed species, just about adoptable autism in general, but it involves CloverCoin/Flipside/DankDook, aka the owner of Pillowings, mentioned here before for drawing feral porn and generally having a questionable Internet presences.

Because of the whole "not really a closed species thing but the owner of one is involved" I'm not sure if it's too off-topic or not, so I'll just spoil it. Typed the whole damn thing out and then realized Flipside wasn't as involved as I had originally thought, but I don't want my sperging to go to waste, so whatever. Let me know if there's a better place I should post this.

Spoiler

The whole doc is >80 pages of unorganized screencaps, but from what I understand, Toyhouse user Plume bought a design (not from the original creator, but from a third party) that came bundled with ~feral NSFW~ (i.e. it has a corkscrew dick in the reference). They did this knowingly, hoping they could just redesign it and.. get rid of the feral? I guess? But then people started blocking them for, you know. Having an OC with its weird animal cock out. So they decided they wanted to axe it and trade it off to someone else.

Spoiler: The character in question

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God, I hate these tiling watermarks so much.

This caught the attention of the original designer, who posted it in a Discord for feral adopts(?) in what appeared to be genuine hope to get it rehomed to someone who liked it. Between Plume's apparent aggression (conveniently, they hide a lot of their own involvement in this exchange) and the whole server riling themselves up about it, bitchfighting ensues that eventually leads to the original designer going "fuck you I'm voiding this design so I can copy/resell it".

You may be asking, "where the hell is Flipside involved"? Well. Apparently, Flipside wanted this character enough to offer to buy other people's characters (off of Plume's favorites list) to trade them for this thing. Apparently, this is a common practice, but it sure pissed Plume off for god knows what reason.

View attachment 3416666

TL;DR Plume is suspiciously hesitant to get rid of this character they're supposedly uncomfortable with, an entire Discord of dogfuckers plots to harass them about it, Pillowings' creator gets a piece of the action too.

The meat of the callout isn't really interesting, but I think it's fucking hilarious to buy an adopt and then turn around and go "I'm uncomfortable with this, please don't think I support this icky nasty thing I bought!"

View attachment 3416630

Here's the callout thread (archive)... and the accompanying Google Doc (archive (broken)). Additionally, the character in question's profile (archive). There appears to be a large amount of backlash in the thread itself, but I don't care to dig through it since it's mostly just people shitting on Plume anyways.

The artist is literally known only for animal porn including straight up bestiality, why is this retard shocked about any of this?

 

[SpergPatrol]

The artist is literally known only for animal porn including straight up bestiality, why is this retard shocked about any of this?

They are a furry too why are them being degenerates shocking to anybody?

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

They are a furry too why are them being degenerates shocking to anybody?

Probably because of the levels of degeneracy.

 

[GayDemiBoy]

New callout post on Toyhouse. It's not about closed species, just about adoptable autism in general, but it involves CloverCoin/Flipside/DankDook, aka the owner of Pillowings, mentioned here before for drawing feral porn and generally having a questionable Internet presences.

Because of the whole "not really a closed species thing but the owner of one is involved" I'm not sure if it's too off-topic or not, so I'll just spoil it. Typed the whole damn thing out and then realized Flipside wasn't as involved as I had originally thought, but I don't want my sperging to go to waste, so whatever. Let me know if there's a better place I should post this.

Spoiler

The whole doc is >80 pages of unorganized screencaps, but from what I understand, Toyhouse user Plume bought a design (not from the original creator, but from a third party) that came bundled with ~feral NSFW~ (i.e. it has a corkscrew dick in the reference). They did this knowingly, hoping they could just redesign it and.. get rid of the feral? I guess? But then people started blocking them for, you know. Having an OC with its weird animal cock out. So they decided they wanted to axe it and trade it off to someone else.

Spoiler: The character in question

View attachment 3416632
God, I hate these tiling watermarks so much.

This caught the attention of the original designer, who posted it in a Discord for feral adopts(?) in what appeared to be genuine hope to get it rehomed to someone who liked it. Between Plume's apparent aggression (conveniently, they hide a lot of their own involvement in this exchange) and the whole server riling themselves up about it, bitchfighting ensues that eventually leads to the original designer going "fuck you I'm voiding this design so I can copy/resell it".

You may be asking, "where the hell is Flipside involved"? Well. Apparently, Flipside wanted this character enough to offer to buy other people's characters (off of Plume's favorites list) to trade them for this thing. Apparently, this is a common practice, but it sure pissed Plume off for god knows what reason.

View attachment 3416666

TL;DR Plume is suspiciously hesitant to get rid of this character they're supposedly uncomfortable with, an entire Discord of dogfuckers plots to harass them about it, Pillowings' creator gets a piece of the action too.

The meat of the callout isn't really interesting, but I think it's fucking hilarious to buy an adopt and then turn around and go "I'm uncomfortable with this, please don't think I support this icky nasty thing I bought!"

View attachment 3416630

Here's the callout thread (archive)... and the accompanying Google Doc (archive (broken)). Additionally, the character in question's profile (archive). There appears to be a large amount of backlash in the thread itself, but I don't care to dig through it since it's mostly just people shitting on Plume anyways.

Nothing about this is shocking. Clovercoin is known through out the cs community to be a weirdo zoo/proshipper. They drew feral porn of some other furry who hated feral porn saying it was a request to try and get that person to look like a zoo.

 

[Baphometkun]

Bit of a splurg, and a tad off topic from closed species, but this kind of transitions with characters as a whole.


(As well as the Oc reference sheet thread)


If these artists are creating character designs by the day, and often motifs or themes are reused with small tweaks here and there, it's difficult to understand why people still interact with these CS groups when they can draw their own version for free. (as discussed previously, it's easy to get away with when these CS are merely a food item and dog slapped together.) When observing actual IP and copyrighted characters and designs, there's something that sets them apart from other protected media. With these species, they really only vary in color and style, and it's a very fine line of distinction within and outside the groups as well. Grems for example, I've seen several lookalikes on Deviantart today and you really don't have to dig that far in species groups to look. It's not a Grem if you don't call it a Grem. As strange as that rule applies to a majority of these groups even if the creators and members realize it or not.


Individuation is so vague, that these species groups really only function to flash designs from popular artists or gush about how you brushed shoulders with them.


Fan characters is a whole other story. But lets say... An artist creates a a sonic oc. Said character interacts regularly in the universe. It's considered a fan character. But technically not illegal or infringing on the companies who own these properties unless the artist is profiting off of their fan characters. (Companies typically won't waste time or money with this unless they see fit. It's also free advertising for them)


But then, another artist comes along, enjoys the artist's fan character design and copies it. They make a new closed species based off of it, or a character built within an entirely new universe, separate from the copyrighted property. I see that kind of thing circulate, and the fan character artist gets upset and wants to sue the individual who ripped off their fan character. That's the confusing thing that delusional artists breed into the air thinking they have full ownership of their fan-made ocs based entirely on another property.