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[Coffee Anon]

If Jim shot him, could he claim he thought he was a varmint rooting through his trash?

Only if he turned him into one of these.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

That doesn't prevent criminal liability or intellectual property liability. Something like CP is in its own category as well since merely possessing it is a crime and failure to report it can also be.

I'm referring to the manifestos exceptional individuals post online. If you conspire with someone to commit a crime that can be prosecuted regardless of online site ownership. CP is a crime in and of itself, as it should be. Disseminating it via the internet in any way, shape or form is illegal.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

precisely because in most cases, the site owner will not know of the crime being committed and not considered an accessory. it is still possible to prove they knew about the crime and get charged for not reporting it. please correct me if i am wrong.

CDA 230 is pretty air tight: people running a website can be charged in Federal court for violating Federal law and are subject to regulation by the Federal government. Except in cases of "sex trafficking", which doesn't specifically include CP, and intellectual property cases, internet platforms and their owners are immune from both State-level and private action. At the time Hotwheelz ran 8chan, the "sex trafficking" exception didn't exist, and what a site owner knows or doesn't know is irrelevant to CDA 230 by design.

Unless the feds could prove he actively encouraged the distribution of CP to the point he was actively involved in a conspiracy, HW is pretty much in the clear by US law.

 

[3119967d0c]

Unless the feds could prove he actively encouraged the distribution of CP to the point he was actively involved in a conspiracy, HW is pretty much in the clear by US law.

As I understand it, a number of the photographers who created the 'art' that was repeatedly posted on boards like /doll/ that Brennan openly defended, was well aware of, and was angry at Jim for shutting down have been convicted of crimes by various jurisdictions around the world, including in the States.

We aren't just talking about cartoons here. No big deal, though.

Of course, [Brennan]'s subsequent actions to attack free speech are entirely in line with the wishes of the US occupational government, so I wouldn't attempt to make money betting that he will be brought to justice.

 

[Answer]

So I've been digging through the 8chan nostalgia file on that old hard drive and I've found a lot of screenshots of old Hotwheels posts. Most of them aren't really interesting, they're mostly just soapboxing about free speech and banter with the community (I actually kind of miss this, it’s so rare for the admin of an imageboard to actually talk to his userbase, when a mod chat log leak happens like once in a blue moon on 4chan its treated as a huge deal because the staff are so secretive about everything and literally never talk to us).

But anyway, some of them are kinda interesting looking back on them now, so here are some choice Hotwheels quotes. Spoilering so I don't flood the thread.

Spoiler: Hotwheels posts

Hotwheels defends pedos on /b/

Hotwheels reprimands pedos for spamming loli (I forgot which board this was posted in, pretty sure it was /b/ or /v/)

Anti-pedo anon gets banned for "moralfagging". This was probably done by a global mod or a board volunteer rather than HW, but I'm posting it anyway.

I don't know what Hotwheels is talking about here and I don't care.

Hotwheels says traps aren't gay.

Hotwheels panders to /pol/, posting a happy merchant image complete with SHUT IT DOWN ITS ANOTHER SHOAH

Hotwheels defends advertising 8chan on reddit. This was a pretty infamous thread and while Hotwheels made some good points, he ended up pissing off a lot of users that day. Anyone who’s been on imageboards knows that many of their denizens have a hateboner for reddit, and 8chan was no exception. If you're wondering why he's changed his name to "Freddit Breddit" in some of these posts, I believe /intl/ started calling him that for said advertising on reddit, and HW appropriated the insult as a way to spite them or something.

Hotwheels soapboxes about free speech and shares his dreams of a better internet. Most Hotwheels screenshots I have are like this one. You have to remember this was when the exoduses from 4chan were still ongoing and everyone was still high on Gamergate. Honestly he sounds like a completely different person here compared to today.

Hotwheels says its OK to post his personal info.

Hotwheels says 8chan "is not abandoned". This was the first public post from Hotwheels (that I saw) in a long time. By this point it felt like Hotwheels had walled himself off from the community, he rarely answered questions or talked to anons publicly like he used to and the site had a fuckton of errors plaguing it, maybe that's what he means by 8chan not being abandoned. I remember a lot of people in that thread saying they were skeptical if this was really Hotwheels as his posting style seemed different. Shortly after this, Ron/Codemonkey announced that Hotwheels was no longer admin and was now just a "consultant". I'm pretty sure I have the screenshot of that post but I haven't found it yet.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

Honestly he sounds like a completely different person here compared to today.

Watching Hotwheels for a while now he is absolutely a different person. Until very recently he was quite chill, but 5 years of various media outlets trying to make him and 8chan a boogie man wore him down. Combine that with 8chan's current insane userbase fucking with him on Twitter, and he just broke. Hotwheels just wanted to make fonts and go to church, but he got dragged back to 8chan again, so here we are.

Spoiler: My exceptional analysis of the situation

What started as an attempt by Hotwheels to get 8chan to go away so he'd stop getting dragged into it turned into an obsession about keeping the site offline no matter the cost, and I assume that Hotwheels believes that Watkins has to be taken down to permanently take the site offline. What started as a hobby project out of respect for chan culture has made Hotwheels' life miserable for the last few years, turning on him in a pretty nasty way. Doesn't make it any less spergy, but I do feel bad for the guy.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

@Answer that does that bring back memories, like right around the time of the first exodus 8chan when was fun and even /pol/ was fine but /v/ was always the most active and fun board. There was also the infighting on the gamergate board which resulted in a gamergate board civil war and two rival GG boards. After awhile it Frederick sort of disappeared and the site went downhill. /v/, /tech/and a couple of other boards were still OK but /pol/ had become absolute garbage in that nearly every single thread devolved into a game of "OK Chaim, No, you! Shekelburger piss off, You're all NiggerJewFaggots, Hai there, 1488 fellow kids" almost immediately-I mean it was an absolute shit show, to the point I avoided it like the plague.

I'd like to see 8kun redeem itself, if just for the /v/ board. Even the 1488 fags should have a container board.

 

[Answer]

@Answer that does that bring back memories, like right around the time of the first exodus 8chan when was fun and even /pol/ was fine but /v/ was always the most active and fun board. There was also the infighting on the gamergate board which resulted in a gamergate board civil war and two rival GG boards. After awhile it Frederick sort of disappeared and the site went downhill. /v/, /tech/and a couple of other boards were still OK but /pol/ had become absolute garbage in that nearly every single thread devolved into a game of "OK Chaim, No, you! Shekelburger piss off, You're all NiggerJewFaggots, Hai there, 1488 fellow kids" almost immediately-I mean it was an absolute shit show, to the point I avoided it like the plague.

I'd like to see 8kun redeem itself, if just for the /v/ board. Even the 1488 fags should have a container board.

Honestly I don't think anything on the internet will top the feeling of exodus-era 8chan. Everyone was so full of hope and optimism, we were all creating a new community dedicated to freedom of speech and openness to all opinions, we all felt like brave crusaders escaping the tyranny of m00t and his hotpockets to continue the Gamergate fight, anons were producing loads of quality OC, our savior based Hotwheels would frequently join in on cracking jokes with us. I know I'm sounding like a faggot but the feeling was REAL and it was GENUINE, something that's becoming increasingly rare with the cynicism and self-deprecating irony humor that's so predominant on imageboards nowadays.

Of course that feeling had deteriorated into cynicism by the end of 2015, but it was fun while it lasted. I guess it was bound to happen, we were too optimistic, the founding purpose (Gamergate) had fizzled out, and Hotwheels wasn't a demigod but just a guy with very real flaws. 8chan became just another imageboard, except with this weird sense of elitism and a fuckton of errors. I guess we'll never completely know what made HW lose interest in 8chan, but I'm putting my money on two events: the failed migration to Infinity Next and the /intl/ civil war. HW seemingly became way less active after that.

And yeah /pol/ was gradually consumed by its own paranoia and became pretty much unusable, but I never visited it that much because even though I had a far-right phase, I never went full neo-nazi, which /pol/ was absolutely filled with. On the topic of boards, its sad that when MSM outlets talk about 8chan, they always focus on the worst aspects of it, like the mass shooters who posted their manifestos on /pol/. They never talk about the smaller boards dedicated to niche interests that were really entertaining and tight-knight, even though they were slow as fuck. But I guess its only natural that the worst parts get all the attention, people love negative shit for some reason.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

The left (radical) is now pro-pedo (ahem, MAP) and definitely pro-porn. Look at the outrage against 'no-nut november'. Furries are pro both.
HW is gonna piss off his current fan base. Man without a country - literally.

BTW, Can we get this sack of shit off the dole? If he has the time and ability to investigate and probe like a fucking agency, there is ZERO need for any country to pay his rent and food stamps. I know people with no arms and legs that go to work.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Honestly I don't think anything on the internet will top the feeling of exodus-era 8chan. Everyone was so full of hope and optimism, we were all creating a new community dedicated to freedom of speech and openness to all opinions, we all felt like brave crusaders escaping the tyranny of m00t and his hotpockets to continue the Gamergate fight, anons were producing loads of quality OC, our savior based Hotwheels would frequently join in on cracking jokes with us. I know I'm sounding like a faggot but the feeling was REAL and it was GENUINE, something that's becoming increasingly rare with the cynicism and self-deprecating irony humor that's so predominant on imageboards nowadays.

Of course that feeling had deteriorated into cynicism by the end of 2015, but it was fun while it lasted. I guess it was bound to happen, we were too optimistic, the founding purpose (Gamergate) had fizzled out, and Hotwheels wasn't a demigod but just a guy with very real flaws. 8chan became just another imageboard, except with this weird sense of elitism and a fuckton of errors. I guess we'll never completely know what made HW lose interest in 8chan, but I'm putting my money on two events: the failed migration to Infinity Next and the /intl/ civil war. HW seemingly became way less active after that.

And yeah /pol/ was gradually consumed by its own paranoia and became pretty much unusable, but I never visited it that much because even though I had a far-right phase, I never went full neo-nazi, which /pol/ was absolutely filled with. On the topic of boards, its sad that when MSM outlets talk about 8chan, they always focus on the worst aspects of it, like the mass shooters who posted their manifestos on /pol/. They never talk about the smaller boards dedicated to niche interests that were really entertaining and tight-knight, even though they were slow as fuck. But I guess its only natural that the worst parts get all the attention, people love negative shit for some reason.

It's the smaller boards which made 8chan unique. I always found something new and fascinating whenever I browsed the the home page. There was a lot of organic content when the exodus happened. It's the only site besides 4chan that's been somewhat successful.

Having an unmoderated /pol/ was a mistake.

 

[Autismo Supreme]

It's the smaller boards which made 8chan unique. I always found something new and fascinating whenever I browsed the the home page. There was a lot of organic content when the exodus happened. It's the only site besides 4chan that's been somewhat successful.

Having an unmoderated /pol/ was a mistake.

/cyber/ was pretty shway. Kinda pushed me to realize that cyberpunk dystopias are already real just without all the neon lights and hologram waifus.
Hell, even with the larger boards, just being able to have over 5x the the filesize limit (eventually) to 4chan, as well as webm and mp4 with sound on every board made browsing them more fun.
/pol/ getting stripped of an admin was probably the worst thing to happen simply because of how many glow in the dark type posts were getting through. You know, the ones along the lines of "Hey, you should start the race war right now. I won't, but you should."
The whole board was saturated with that before Christchurch and afterward made it far worse.

 

[AnOminous]

/pol/ getting stripped of an admin was probably the worst thing to happen simply because of how many glow in the dark type posts were getting through. You know, the ones along the lines of "Hey, you should start the race war right now. I won't, but you should."

It would be ironic, and by ironic, I mean fucking disgusting, if the glow-in-the-darks actually inadvertently inspired one or more mass shootings with their own glowposting.

 

[fuzakeru na]

/cyber/ was pretty shway. Kinda pushed me to realize that cyberpunk dystopias are already real just without all the neon lights and hologram waifus.
Hell, even with the larger boards, just being able to have over 5x the the filesize limit (eventually) to 4chan, as well as webm and mp4 with sound on every board made browsing them more fun.
/pol/ getting stripped of an admin was probably the worst thing to happen simply because of how many glow in the dark type posts were getting through. You know, the ones along the lines of "Hey, you should start the race war right now. I won't, but you should."
The whole board was saturated with that before Christchurch and afterward made it far worse.

even worse was how the stupid fucking cops submitted as evidence a whole bunch of (You) bait posting without an understanding of how boards even work

 

[Kacho]

The left (radical) is now pro-pedo (ahem, MAP) and definitely pro-porn. Look at the outrage against 'no-nut november'. Furries are pro both.
HW is gonna piss off his current fan base. Man without a country - literally.

BTW, Can we get this sack of shit off the dole? If he has the time and ability to investigate and probe like a fucking agency, there is ZERO need for any country to pay his rent and food stamps. I know people with no arms and legs that go to work.

They should put him on Duterte's junkie death squad. It would be highly amusing and he'd get to die doing something noble for the first time in his contemptible little midge life.

 

[shasetoma.]

They should put him on Duterte's junkie death squad. It would be highly amusing and he'd get to die doing something noble for the first time in his contemptible little midge life.

That just gave me the mental image of HW imposingly rolling down the streets of Tondo or some other relatively shitty area in Metro Manila with guns strapped to his armored wheelchair. He looks like he's about to go Robocop on some junkies until he inevitably hits a pothole on the street and the wheelchair tips him face first into a pile of dogshit.

 

[ZMOT]

That just gave me the mental image of HW imposingly rolling down the streets of Tondo or some other relatively shitty area in Metro Manila with guns strapped to his armored wheelchair.

 

[Homo neanderthalensis]

This is probably a stupid question, but how does Fredrick make any money if he sold 8chan? Donations?

 

[pwnest injun]

This is probably a stupid question, but how does Fredrick make any money if he sold 8chan? Donations?

As a US Citizen he's still entitled to SSDI, even if he lives in another country. He also makes fonts and maybe even sells them.
Besides that, he has a cache of Bitcoin that he can fall back on.

 

[Splendid]

It would be ironic, and by ironic, I mean fucking disgusting, if the glow-in-the-darks actually inadvertently inspired one or more mass shootings with their own glowposting.

If they're really goading people into this shit on a mass scale, it'll eventually happen. Probably not on 4chan, but on the hardcore white supremacist websites. And if that happens, I'd fucking lol if the dude gets caught and claims entrapment...because he might be right.

 

[Jump]

If they're really goading people into this shit on a mass scale, it'll eventually happen. Probably not on 4chan, but on the hardcore white supremacist websites. And if that happens, I'd fucking lol if the dude gets caught and claims entrapment...because he might be right.

How would he know to claim that? He would have no way of knowing who the people are behind the forum accounts. The feds would never admit to it.