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I feel like it could also be the case that this was just a project made by a group of dedicated 8chan users, but eccentric individuals didn't know how p2p worked and didn't use TOR or a VPN which got their shit traced.🤔

Hell, they even say right on the front page to treat it like it were a BitTorrent session.
That's also possible (and, taking my tin-foil hat off for a moment, probable). 08chan could be mostly safe after all. But all that stuff coming out in early August definitely made me shy about it. (EDIT: and for good reason, see the posts below this one.)

i think 8kun.link is new domain,register today by todaynic (same registrar for dailystormer)
Good catch! Can't use the link yet, but here's the whois:
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i think 8kun.link is new domain,register today by todaynic (same registrar for dailystormer)
Very interesting, it will be enlightening to see how they hold up.

I'm guessing they may give 8chan, which while populated by exceptional individuals is actually a free speech site, shorter shrift than the 'Daily Stormer', which is just an extreme end of the Trump 2020 campaign intended to dogwhistle to particularly stupid racists to get them to vote for America's most Zionist President in 2020.
 

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That's also possible (and, taking my tin-foil hat off for a moment, probable). 08chan could be mostly safe after all. But all that stuff coming out in early August definitely made me shy about it.
It is not "safe." It is anything in the fucking world but "safe." It is hideously unsafe. You not only download but actually host and serve any content you look at on it. This opens you up to incalculable liability and whoever set it up may even intend to do that.

Do not even think of connecting to this shit without a VPN or whatever you would use to, as the creators themselves said, use for a BitTorrent session. Except this session is full of as much outright criminally illegal content as any malicious actor wants to upload to it.

That's the real problem with using Freenet-like systems, as ZeroNet is. First actual perverts use it for their own shit, but also, they're open to sabotage by actually using shit like that as a weapon.
 

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Going back to the original thread focus (Cloudflare shutting sites down), the boomers at /r/The_Donald made an imgur clone called MAGAimg in an attempt to avoid imgur takedowns.

Today Cloudflare booted them off using the catch all "any reason" clause. I wouldn't be shocked if CloudFlare starts booting other sites off as well.
 

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Going back to the original thread focus (Cloudflare shutting sites down), the boomers at /r/The_Donald made an imgur clone called MAGAimg in an attempt to avoid imgur takedowns.

Today Cloudflare booted them off using the catch all "any reason" clause. I wouldn't be shocked if CloudFlare starts booting other sites off as well.
Anyone who uses CF's hip new 1.1.1.1 DNS server can't see your link because it's blocking archive.md.
 

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It is not "safe." It is anything in the fucking world but "safe." It is hideously unsafe. You not only download but actually host and serve any content you look at on it. This opens you up to incalculable liability and whoever set it up may even intend to do that.

Do not even think of connecting to this shit without a VPN or whatever you would use to, as the creators themselves said, use for a BitTorrent session. Except this session is full of as much outright criminally illegal content as any malicious actor wants to upload to it.

That's the real problem with using Freenet-like systems, as ZeroNet is. First actual perverts use it for their own shit, but also, they're open to sabotage by actually using shit like that as a weapon.
Holy crap, you're right! Admittedly I was hedging since I haven't really seen anything about the whole 'unintentionally hosting CP' thing since August, but apparently the way 08chan is set up is dangerous as fuck for P2p, since it auto-downloads the thumbnail images:

ohfuck.png

(https://archive.li/NsHwK)

Hey @ScatmansWorld, probably wise to get off of 08chan.

Going back to the original thread focus (Cloudflare shutting sites down), the boomers at /r/The_Donald made an imgur clone called MAGAimg in an attempt to avoid imgur takedowns.

Today Cloudflare booted them off using the catch all "any reason" clause. I wouldn't be shocked if CloudFlare starts booting other sites off as well.
You mean this isn't the Fredrick Brennan vs 8chan/8kun thread?
By default I believe him, but I'm wondering why he hasn't shown us a screenshot of the email he got yet that he just keeps talking about.

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Anyone who uses CF's hip new 1.1.1.1 DNS server can't see your link because it's blocking archive.md.
Is this one an issue with Cloudflare though? I remember there was an issue with the archive.is DNS resolution earlier in the year, and CF were adamant that the issue was on the archive.is owner's end.
cf.png

(https://archive.li/n4OUU)

EDIT2: What the hell? The KF proxy auto-corrects archive.is to archive.li? Why?
 
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Going back to the original thread focus (Cloudflare shutting sites down), the boomers at /r/The_Donald made an imgur clone called MAGAimg in an attempt to avoid imgur takedowns.

Today Cloudflare booted them off using the catch all "any reason" clause. I wouldn't be shocked if CloudFlare starts booting other sites off as well.
That seemed to go along with Reddit banning a new Trump meme-sharing subreddit today, that I assume would have used magaimg site heavily. Nice coincidence.
 

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Going back to the original thread focus (Cloudflare shutting sites down), the boomers at /r/The_Donald made an imgur clone called MAGAimg in an attempt to avoid imgur takedowns.

Today Cloudflare booted them off using the catch all "any reason" clause. I wouldn't be shocked if CloudFlare starts booting other sites off as well.
They will.

Every day the deepstate seems to turn up the heat significantly on the frog boiler. Their goal is to eliminate and make all protocols, sites and platforms that allow user upload-able content illegal. They have plans for all of us free thinking netizens; kill all of the intellectuals.
 

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Is this one an issue with Cloudflare though? I remember there was an issue with the archive.li DNS resolution earlier in the year, and CF were adamant that the issue was on the archive.li owner's end.
cf.png

(https://archive.li/n4OUU)
That YCombinator article is actually quite enlightening. Previous responses I've seen from CloudFlare shills have just claimed that the Archive.Today guy has things set up wrong or something along those lines, which is clearly untrue.

That article puts it in more context, namely that CloudFlare maliciously refuse to comply with universal practices allowing him to deliver load-sharing without relying on nasty hacks that enable spying like... CloudFlare... and so he blocks their shit.

Good on him! CloudFlare is an exceptionally evil organization that is part of an assault on internet freedom, just like PedoWheels writ large.
 

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Good on him! CloudFlare is an exceptionally evil organization that is part of an assault on internet freedom, just like PedoWheels writ large.
Cloudflare is literally a mafia. A good post back in 2015 by Krebs on Security talks about this in detail. Cloudflare shields DDoSer services (or "booters") from being DDoSed themselves. Then when you want to protect your website against a cheap DDoSer from Hackforums the best thing to do is to use...Cloudflare itself. They make money from both parties, and them dropping you means you're fucked.

Here's the relevant part of the article, which mentions the old Cloudflare "we don't kick off anyone" policy:
The booter services are proliferating thanks mainly to free services offered by CloudFlare, a content distribution network that offers gratis DDoS protection for virtually all of the booter services currently online. That includes the Lizardstresser, the attack service launched by the same Lizard Squad (a.k.a. Loser Squad) criminals whose assaults knocked the Microsoft Xbox and Sony Playstation networks offline on Christmas Day 2014.

The sad truth is that most booter services probably would not be able to remain in business without CloudFlare’s free service. That’s because outside of CloudFlare, real DDoS protection services are expensive, and just about the only thing booter service customers enjoy attacking more than Minecraft and online gaming sites are, well, other booter services.

For example, looking at the (now leaked) back-end database for the LizardStresser, we can see that TheHosted and its various properties were targeted for attacks repeatedly by one of the Loser Squad’s more prominent members.

The Web site crimeflare.com, which tracks abusive sites that hide behind CloudFlare, has cataloged more than 200 DDoS-for-hire sites using CloudFlare. For its part, CloudFlare’s owners have rather vehemently resisted the notion of blocking booter services from using the company’s services, saying that doing so would lead CloudFlare down a “slippery slope of censorship.”

As I observed in a previous story about booters, CloudFlare CEO Matthew Prince has noted that while Cloudflare will respond to legal process and subpoenas from law enforcement to take sites offline, “sometimes we have court orders that order us to not take sites down.” Indeed, one such example was CarderProfit, a Cloudflare-protected carding forum that turned out to be an elaborate sting operation set up by the FBI.

I suppose it’s encouraging that prior to CloudFlare, Prince was co-creators of Project Honey Pot, which bills itself as the largest open-source community dedicated to tracking online fraud and abuse. In hacking and computer terminology, a honeypot is a trap set to detect, deflect or otherwise counteract attempts at unauthorized use or abuse of information systems.
It's still funny how years ago Matthew Prince stated his company wasn't trying to take the role of an internet censor. That's the biggest issue with the centralization of the internet around a handful of companies, it doesn't protect you from the company's CEO waking up in a bad mood and deciding to wipe you off the internet.
 

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Cloudflare is literally a mafia. A good post back in 2015 by Krebs on Security talks about this in detail. Cloudflare shields DDoSer services (or "booters") from being DDoSed themselves. Then when you want to protect your website against a cheap DDoSer from Hackforums the best thing to do is to use...Cloudflare itself. They make money from both parties, and them dropping you means you're fucked.

Here's the relevant part of the article, which mentions the old Cloudflare "we don't kick off anyone" policy:


It's still funny how years ago Matthew Prince stated his company wasn't trying to take the role of an internet censor. That's the biggest issue with the centralization of the internet around a handful of companies, it doesn't protect you from the company's CEO waking up in a bad mood and deciding to wipe you off the internet.
Wait a sec... If Cloudflare hid behind 'Freedom of Speech' in order to justify taking DDOS blood money...

Now that they have clearly violated that policy - to the USA and the world - seems like anyone that has been the victim of a DDOS attack has a justifiable law suit claim.
Cloudflare is now a decidedly partisan player in providing services. Therefore if Cloudflare's patrons conduct illegal or damaging actions, seems like that could be a tacit approval from Cloudflare.

It's like clearing ice in a parking lot. You are 100% liable if you clear ice and someone slips/falls. You are not liable if you do nothing. By kicking off the 'bad actors' from Cloudflare, you could be held accountable for the rest of your clientele.
 

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Wait a sec... If Cloudflare hid behind 'Freedom of Speech' in order to justify taking DDOS blood money...

Now that they have clearly violated that policy - to the USA and the world - seems like anyone that has been the victim of a DDOS attack has a justifiable law suit claim.
Cloudflare is now a decidedly partisan player in providing services. Therefore if Cloudflare's patrons conduct illegal or damaging actions, seems like that could be a tacit approval from Cloudflare.

It's like clearing ice in a parking lot. You are 100% liable if you clear ice and someone slips/falls. You are not liable if you do nothing. By kicking off the 'bad actors' from Cloudflare, you could be held accountable for the rest of your clientele.
The Daily Stormer stunt bit them hard in the ass. As the articles on TorrentFreak in particular show, Cloudflare was being targeted by the MAFIAA and porn industry because they were shielding torrent sites. At first they tried the "oh we're neutral" thing they used to pull in the past, except now these groups had evidence that if Cloudflare can take down Nazis they can take down the torrent sites too.

The site even asked this question after the whole 8chan takedown.

There's a reason Cloudflare is seen as sketchy as fuck, especially after BitMitigate lost their providers trying to do the same thing Cloudflare was able to do for years.
 

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The Daily Stormer stunt bit them hard in the ass. As the articles on TorrentFreak in particular show, Cloudflare was being targeted by the MAFIAA and porn industry because they were shielding torrent sites. At first they tried the "oh we're neutral" thing they used to pull in the past, except now these groups had evidence that if Cloudflare can take down Nazis they can take down the torrent sites too.

The site even asked this question after the whole 8chan takedown.

There's a reason Cloudflare is seen as sketchy as fuck, especially after BitMitigate lost their providers trying to do the same thing Cloudflare was able to do for years.
It really makes you think that these clearly content-based decisions made by CloudFlare have not caused them to be forced to take down pirated porn and movies.

It's almost like the MPAA and MindGeek are deliberately playing softball- and would prefer that you pay to watch their filth, but if you don't pay and still watch it that's still better than you not watch it.

Incidentally, just been listening to PedoWheels interview with Jared Holt, who sounds like a exceptional pedophile who was hit in the head too many times in prison to talk at a normal speed and cadence, as featured on a recent Killstream. The protector of the /hebe/ and /doll/ boards is explicitly targeting BitChute now. Anyone who pretends that he is just individually pissed at Watkins is dreaming, in my opinion.
 

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Cloudflare is literally a mafia. A good post back in 2015 by Krebs on Security talks about this in detail. Cloudflare shields DDoSer services (or "booters") from being DDoSed themselves. Then when you want to protect your website against a cheap DDoSer from Hackforums the best thing to do is to use...Cloudflare itself. They make money from both parties, and them dropping you means you're fucked.
It's because it's generally cheaper to hire ClownFlare than to hire someone to just go and kill the fucker who is causing you difficulty. If ClownFlare quits providing that service at a reasonable price, it really does just become cost efficient to just pay someone to go kill Brennan or whoever.
 

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It's because it's generally cheaper to hire ClownFlare than to hire someone to just go and kill the fucker who is causing you difficulty. If ClownFlare quits providing that service at a reasonable price, it really does just become cost efficient to just pay someone to go kill Brennan or whoever.
@Null should program a time machine so he can go back and push @copypaste off the roof and prevent any of this from ever happening

and then feed vordrak to the pigs and then come back to the improved present
 

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8kun.works (netsol) and 8kun.top (todaynic) working now. netsol have eject them before on 8kun.us,so is strange choice
What if Watkins was secretly trying to get kicked off of as many domains as possible to help his case? it would make sense then why he is using netsol, because he knows that they'll take him down and he can add one more hosting service to the list.
 
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