Clownfish TV / Thomas & Kambrea Pratt / Kneon & Geeky Sparkles - The Self-Proclaimed Nemeses of Kevin Smith, Profiting off of Nerd Outrage, Part of the Fandom Menace, Gaslit by a Cartoon

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elzaw

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re: he-man

I am anything but a hardcore fan. But when it was announced I was looking forward to a nice nostalgia trip.

Killing off the main protagonist and making it about a strong female character would be alright, if it wasn't 2021 and THAT is the most pandering thing about a cartoon for 40 year old man-children. I dunno. That just irks me. It's so formulaic. This should've just been a less corny retelling of the he-man show, instead it feels politicized.

It's not a big deal to me, honestly. More so just tiresome because it sometimes feels like they will leave nothing untouched. Shove that god damn diversity and girlpower into everything.

A new Transformers was announced. Bet you it'll be about trannies. Hyuck.
But it's not "woke", I mean...The most political thing about it is Teela's haircut but even that isn't permanent. He-man doesn't "die", we've only seen 5 episodes so far. Teela is maybe a focus of 3, but Evil Lyn, Orco, Andra, Roboto all have character arcs. It's not "Teela" show, it's "Masters of the Universe" show, Teela will become the new Sorceress and she will NOT take over Adam's place. I get it Star Wars and tlou made us all paranoid and I understand not liking it, but it's not a complete show and there's so much deliberate misinformation going on.
Anyway, read this article, it clarifies a few things, but in particular:
- Kevin isn't "woke". People didn't like his decisions for the show, but those were not "agenda" motivated. The "woke" stuff like how the original show was sexist to women were said by Sarah Michelle Gellar who wasn't a fan growing up, so it's her opinion, not Kevin's. Smith, on the other hand, pointed out that female characters were always a big part of the show, so it's not "woke" to have them play a bigger role in Revelation as it doesn't contradict the original show's spirit.
- The idea behind the show wasn't even his, it was Rob David who brought him in because he wanted the show for adults who grew up with the original toys, since there's already an upcoming He man reboot for kids.
- Smith didn't tell fans to "grow the f up", he was referring to people who assumed He-man is dead for good and won't be coming back. Specific quote: "You really fucking think Mattel Television, who hired me and paid me money, wants to do a fucking 'Masters of the Universe' show without He-Man? Grow the fuck up, man."
Again, maybe he could have worded himself differently, but this is Kevin Smith, that's how he always talks. But he didn't say people aren't allowed to dislike the show, so that needs to be corrected.
- Part 2 is more He-man centric and Adam will have his powers back, so you can see how Clownfish's "rumours" were not correct.

Anyway, I understand that people wanted a "Adam is the main character in every episode" kinda show, but I still recommend to stay tune for part 2, I'm personally excited because I always shipped Adam and Teela and I loved how their relationship was portrayed. Designs could have been better, but still... Lots of hate around it is overblown.

As for the TRANSformers, well... I hate to ruin childhoods, but we had Troon bots in the comics for years now. And it hasn't even started with the woke crowd, believe it or not, this was all Simon Furman being a cuck not wanting to have fembots in the comics ("Transformers are genderneutral, which is MALE"), so he made Arcee a troon. :drink:
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edit: Please, do yourself a favor and do not overthink this too much.
 
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Aqua Panda

I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen.
True & Honest Fan
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Oh neat, I got my wish and someone finally made a thread for Clownfish. I can't believe I've missed it all this time!

Props to @Old Man Mario for making a sub-par Proving Grounds OP, rolling with the feedback & making improvements instead of running away. Also to the people dutifully posting videos and maintaining discourse.

The thread is interesting so far, and different from a lot of other Internet Famous folks. Kneon and Geeky haven't grievously embarrassed themselves or really hit it "big" as spectacles, but there's that delicious potential and they're just interesting enough with their opinions to maintain a steady conversation here. Talking about them means talking about their tastes which shamefully align with a lot of mine. And it's nice to see someone putting those opinions out there to a big audience that immediately puts it under scrutiny, and whether it's dumb or actually informed, they keep going.

Getting into a spat with Kevin Smith is their best accomplishment so far, they try to pick long-distance fights with a lot of media industry morons that deserve it but this is the first time they're getting a public response. Kevin doesn't have to acknowledge little youtubers at all but he can't help himself, just like Mark Waid and ya boi zack.

They still haven't quite hit a "New Guy" meme moment or stolen art supplies yet, but in the meantime you could shore up the OP with a more traditional opening paragraph lifted from another older thread. Here's the kids since I didn't see this family photo in thread yet:
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this quaint periodical is available online for free:
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zoomed in for better reading(but damn that page layout and those local coupons are comfy :lol:)
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Lots of juicy personal details in an otherwise digital age of preferred privacy; full and maiden names, kids names and ages, school records, detailed history of moves, and career paths. Would Thom & Kambrea care that we've found and archived this article? Probably not, but I'm glad it's here now in case they ever ask for a takedown or edit of this issue of Pux Hometown. Interestingly, the current Youtube wikitubia page for Clownfish shows they moved to Pittsburgh, PA from Punxsutawney after this magazine spotlight so that's a nugget to consider if/when they ever deserve a more thorough doxing than what they gave their neighbors already.

Archive: ( https://archive.md/ZPtmY )

Someone else has done all the legwork already besides actual home number, but this write-up is ideal for a front page, first paragraph once trimmed down to the essential bits for their potential Highlight when the entire site stops in to laugh at whatever they fuck up royally.
This is some excellent work. Great find. To the point that all that really is left is confirming the current speculated home address that was used for the llc. 50/50 on if they actually moved to Pittsburgh. They are making more money thanks to youtube and other projects, but they could also be trying to throw people off because they know stuff like this is out there. Voting records will be the key to finding out. (Geeky claims to volunteer at voting locations all the time. It's just a matter of finding the public record and right district.)

Also, totally called their daughter was named Kairi, the Kingdom Hearts love was obvious.
 
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Haramburger

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Also, totally called their daughter was named Kairi, the Kingdom Hearts love was obvious.
The first Kingdom Hearts game was 2002, KH2 in 2005, Kairi Pratt was age 9 in 2016 meaning she was born in 2007. At least she's not named something more embarrassing like Leia or Daenerys, Kairi is relatively obscure and can be played off as one of the other popular K-names white girls have been getting since the 90's.
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TheRedChair

Ultimate Chaos, Ultimate Confort.
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re: he-man

I am anything but a hardcore fan. But when it was announced I was looking forward to a nice nostalgia trip.

Killing off the main protagonist and making it about a strong female character would be alright, if it wasn't 2021 and THAT is the most pandering thing about a cartoon for 40 year old man-children. I dunno. That just irks me. It's so formulaic. This should've just been a less corny retelling of the he-man show, instead it feels politicized.

It's not a big deal to me, honestly. More so just tiresome because it sometimes feels like they will leave nothing untouched. Shove that god damn diversity and girlpower into everything.

A new Transformers was announced. Bet you it'll be about trannies. Hyuck.
Perhaps I'm just old fashioned or perhaps I knew the industry at one time. I saw the changes starting in the late 90's after the comic book industry collapse. Part of my dreams in creating content were shattered by some that Generation FAIL has put on a pedestal of today.

To them now it is a right of passage to destroy the past in any shape as possible. Nothing is sacred. Everything is fair game and held to the progressive standards of Extremism Hollywood/Entertainment Industry/Socialistic Ideals.

The problem is that there are enough assholes in Generation Fail to make this still profitable. It is the outlet for their own failures in life. They can't make it on their own so they will twitter rage on a platform to tear everything down.

There is a reason "why" I left the work force in 2006. Yea I could have made a few more mil, but at what fucking cost? I've seen this shit coming and I wanted no part of it.

This sickness you see on TV/Cable is a system of a failed ideology that has mutated into something that is called "Socialistic Capitalism", also known as Neo Fuedalism. This is a real thing now that more and more people are seeing the separation of society.

Anyone that does not conform to the ideals of where they work will be gate keep/removed/stalled in promotions/separated from financial wealth.

Those are the hardcore facts that the ignorant fail to understand until it is too late. They will be too old as society dictates and their value declines by those who hold power in their lives by the way of the economy.

So you have those in Hollywierd, whose value has been decline such as Kevin Smith. What has he really done of note? He's now a taking head for an ideology to make himself relevant. From a Stoner Character in a movie to a Boot Licker Producer/Influencer so he can continue make money and live his lifestyle by doing this shit over and over and over again.

It's easy to for them to be Edgy... Because they can't Fucking create. Only imitate/Destroy/Reset. And it shows on the quality of Television/Cable of today. No one Creates anymore. They DATA MINE OLD IPS. We had some many miserable reboots and retcons in the last 10 years because that is the general mindset of today. Imitate... Update... But NO CREATE.

The fact that he is a Gen Xer only proves my point again of those people that are in true power in this society are not the Boomers... They are much too old now but the Generation Jones (Obama, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos) and elements of Generation X. They are calling the shots. They are the ones that hold true power in this world by using Social Media, Peddling Influencers, Twitter Mobs, Entertainment Industry, News Media and anything that they can twist/mode/perverse of the past to get their social ideology across.

As far as Smith is Concern his time is coming. Trying to pretend that he is still young when he is pushing 50 is telling. Just like the Kardashians, you only have a certain amount of time to be relevant in the entertainment industry and unless you are able to reinvent yourself, you are going to be cast aside.

That is the price of being "Stunning and Brave"... and for the rest of us, who are normal... we have to suffer with this nonsense.
 

TheRedChair

Ultimate Chaos, Ultimate Confort.
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So many in one day.
Remember my comment about how Tubers make money. It's about volume and not so much about true quality.

This is what happens when you place yourself fully into a digital economy. You are at the mercy of the Gate Keepers (YT). They make the money and give you the chump change. In order to offset the low amount (price per 1000 views) you have to do volume.
 

macguyver16

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Perhaps I'm just old fashioned or perhaps I knew the industry at one time. I saw the changes starting in the late 90's after the comic book industry collapse. Part of my dreams in creating content were shattered by some that Generation FAIL has put on a pedestal of today.

To them now it is a right of passage to destroy the past in any shape as possible. Nothing is sacred. Everything is fair game and held to the progressive standards of Extremism Hollywood/Entertainment Industry/Socialistic Ideals.

The problem is that there are enough assholes in Generation Fail to make this still profitable. It is the outlet for their own failures in life. They can't make it on their own so they will twitter rage on a platform to tear everything down.

There is a reason "why" I left the work force in 2006. Yea I could have made a few more mil, but at what fucking cost? I've seen this shit coming and I wanted no part of it.

This sickness you see on TV/Cable is a system of a failed ideology that has mutated into something that is called "Socialistic Capitalism", also known as Neo Fuedalism. This is a real thing now that more and more people are seeing the separation of society.

Anyone that does not conform to the ideals of where they work will be gate keep/removed/stalled in promotions/separated from financial wealth.

Those are the hardcore facts that the ignorant fail to understand until it is too late. They will be too old as society dictates and their value declines by those who hold power in their lives by the way of the economy.

So you have those in Hollywierd, whose value has been decline such as Kevin Smith. What has he really done of note? He's now a taking head for an ideology to make himself relevant. From a Stoner Character in a movie to a Boot Licker Producer/Influencer so he can continue make money and live his lifestyle by doing this shit over and over and over again.

It's easy to for them to be Edgy... Because they can't Fucking create. Only imitate/Destroy/Reset. And it shows on the quality of Television/Cable of today. No one Creates anymore. They DATA MINE OLD IPS. We had some many miserable reboots and retcons in the last 10 years because that is the general mindset of today. Imitate... Update... But NO CREATE.

The fact that he is a Gen Xer only proves my point again of those people that are in true power in this society are not the Boomers... They are much too old now but the Generation Jones (Obama, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos) and elements of Generation X. They are calling the shots. They are the ones that hold true power in this world by using Social Media, Peddling Influencers, Twitter Mobs, Entertainment Industry, News Media and anything that they can twist/mode/perverse of the past to get their social ideology across.

As far as Smith is Concern his time is coming. Trying to pretend that he is still young when he is pushing 50 is telling. Just like the Kardashians, you only have a certain amount of time to be relevant in the entertainment industry and unless you are able to reinvent yourself, you are going to be cast aside.

That is the price of being "Stunning and Brave"... and for the rest of us, who are normal... we have to suffer with this nonsense.
There are plenty of young people out there creating new and interesting things, it may not be on cable or whatever, but tv is a dead medium. A lot of younger people, like myself, don't even own a television, because there's really no point.

I used to be a massive Star Wars fan. And yeah, it still kinda grinds my gears about what happened with all of that, but you know what? I think, at the end of the day, growing apathetic and leaving the fandom actually improved my tastes. I started watching films Like House (Japan, 1979) and Amelie, and started to get into the work of David Lynch. I also expanded my knowledge on animation, and started to really check out obscure works from other countries (been on a big retro Soviet kick lately). As every year has gone by I have grown less and less reliant on Hollywood to entertain me.

Now, will Hollywood reset itself and strive to create film for the sake of film? Or artistic expression? I would honestly ask, why does it matter? The internet has decentralized the means of video production, and every year sees continued improvements in production tools and merchandising being offered to the common man. So i see your post, and I shrug, because at the end of the day, people like Smith operate in a machine that since it's inception in the 1910's has been a machine, and if it stays, or falls apart, really makes no difference to me.
 

Kh0rg0sKhul

kiwifarms.net
Perhaps I'm just old fashioned or perhaps I knew the industry at one time. I saw the changes starting in the late 90's after the comic book industry collapse. Part of my dreams in creating content were shattered by some that Generation FAIL has put on a pedestal of today.

To them now it is a right of passage to destroy the past in any shape as possible. Nothing is sacred. Everything is fair game and held to the progressive standards of Extremism Hollywood/Entertainment Industry/Socialistic Ideals.

The problem is that there are enough assholes in Generation Fail to make this still profitable. It is the outlet for their own failures in life. They can't make it on their own so they will twitter rage on a platform to tear everything down.

There is a reason "why" I left the work force in 2006. Yea I could have made a few more mil, but at what fucking cost? I've seen this shit coming and I wanted no part of it.

This sickness you see on TV/Cable is a system of a failed ideology that has mutated into something that is called "Socialistic Capitalism", also known as Neo Fuedalism. This is a real thing now that more and more people are seeing the separation of society.

Anyone that does not conform to the ideals of where they work will be gate keep/removed/stalled in promotions/separated from financial wealth.

Those are the hardcore facts that the ignorant fail to understand until it is too late. They will be too old as society dictates and their value declines by those who hold power in their lives by the way of the economy.

So you have those in Hollywierd, whose value has been decline such as Kevin Smith. What has he really done of note? He's now a taking head for an ideology to make himself relevant. From a Stoner Character in a movie to a Boot Licker Producer/Influencer so he can continue make money and live his lifestyle by doing this shit over and over and over again.

It's easy to for them to be Edgy... Because they can't Fucking create. Only imitate/Destroy/Reset. And it shows on the quality of Television/Cable of today. No one Creates anymore. They DATA MINE OLD IPS. We had some many miserable reboots and retcons in the last 10 years because that is the general mindset of today. Imitate... Update... But NO CREATE.

The fact that he is a Gen Xer only proves my point again of those people that are in true power in this society are not the Boomers... They are much too old now but the Generation Jones (Obama, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos) and elements of Generation X. They are calling the shots. They are the ones that hold true power in this world by using Social Media, Peddling Influencers, Twitter Mobs, Entertainment Industry, News Media and anything that they can twist/mode/perverse of the past to get their social ideology across.

As far as Smith is Concern his time is coming. Trying to pretend that he is still young when he is pushing 50 is telling. Just like the Kardashians, you only have a certain amount of time to be relevant in the entertainment industry and unless you are able to reinvent yourself, you are going to be cast aside.

That is the price of being "Stunning and Brave"... and for the rest of us, who are normal... we have to suffer with this nonsense.
That's quite the wall of text you have there. Have you considered maybe looking elsewhere for something to enjoy? The recent Disney produced Star Wars stuff doesn't get me excited, so you know what I did? I just walked away from it. My last time seeing Star Wars was episode 8, and I found it to be an absolute blob of meh and a sign that maybe Disney doesn't have a clear direction on what to do with their latest IP. I found other things to enjoy, namely Helluva Boss, and Warhammer. Perhaps maybe it's time to take the nostalgia goggles off, and embrace something new. You might find yourself a lot fucking happier.
 

New Account

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The key is to make geek media for children. Ignore the sjws and the old nerds. What they want shouldnt matter. Everyone always talks about "when i was a kid i watched...", If thats the case then move out the way and let a new generation experience something. Instead geek media tries to appeal to older audience (from both sides). The arguments happen between adults. With star wars its funny. Will kids today defend the movies 10-15 years from now like the 30+ year olds defend the prequels?
 

northstar747

True & Honest Fan
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The key is to make geek media for children. Ignore the sjws and the old nerds. What they want shouldnt matter. Everyone always talks about "when i was a kid i watched...", If thats the case then move out the way and let a new generation experience something. Instead geek media tries to appeal to older audience (from both sides). The arguments happen between adults. With star wars its funny. Will kids today defend the movies 10-15 years from now like the 30+ year olds defend the prequels?
So when I was a kid I grew up with some old CBS/FOX VHS tapes of the original trilogy.

How many times did star wars get a media boost. From in theaters to vhs, to USA network showing the movies over and over again on Thanksgiving to video games comic books cartoons etc.

You can make new fans over and over again.

The part where it went wrong is when they tried to make it for girls and in the face of fans complaining they shat on them.
 

303 D0L3

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From all the internet rage about it I was curious and decided to watch Masters of the Universe.
I'm at episode 5 and still waiting for something to be assmad about. I was looking forward to watching a trashfire of a show. A space jam 2 quality of cash-in with 3rd or 4th wave feminism glazed over it.

What I got was a pretty average, but overall solid cartoon to a show I watched as a kid. It's not some massive desecration or whatever. So, watching a couple vids of people like Clownfish and tweets of others in their sphere, I keep wondering,
"Why are they so mad?"
I get it the trailers and Kevin Smith interviews in the lead-up were cringe. Prolly, I just wasn't paying attention until I kept seeing the outrage plume up online about this show. I legitimately would not have known it existed.

My main point is it's hilarious watching these guys flip out over a 30 year old cartoon like it's an to their bible. The original still exists. The reboot from the 00s still exists that crappy live action movie does too. Why is He-Man/Kevin Smith the hill people want to die on?
 

Haramburger

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From all the internet rage about it I was curious and decided to watch Masters of the Universe.
I'm at episode 5 and still waiting for something to be assmad about. I was looking forward to watching a trashfire of a show. A space jam 2 quality of cash-in with 3rd or 4th wave feminism glazed over it.

What I got was a pretty average, but overall solid cartoon to a show I watched as a kid. It's not some massive desecration or whatever. So, watching a couple vids of people like Clownfish and tweets of others in their sphere, I keep wondering,
"Why are they so mad?"
I get it the trailers and Kevin Smith interviews in the lead-up were cringe. Prolly, I just wasn't paying attention until I kept seeing the outrage plume up online about this show. I legitimately would not have known it existed.

My main point is it's hilarious watching these guys flip out over a 30 year old cartoon like it's an to their bible. The original still exists. The reboot from the 00s still exists that crappy live action movie does too. Why is He-Man/Kevin Smith the hill people want to die on?
I'm mad that you watched it. I'm mad that I haven't watched it. I'm mad that I'm in a disadvantageous position if we were to discuss this show fairly and openly. I'm mad that you like it because my preconceived notions are that it should not be liked. I'm mad that I can't refute your position. I'm mad that you aren't helping me spitroast Kevin Smith's skinnyfat corpse online. I'm fucking MAD!
 

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Masters of the Universe isnt on netflix top 10 after 1 week. It only says #4 in kids section. We will see how well it did if netflix renews the show. Thats seems to be the only indication of something doing well on netflix. They are quick to cancel nowadays
 

Boobie Bomb

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Niggas would rather spent their money buying manga than die in a civil war with sand niggas trying to fuck France over. Can't wait for the EU to try and explain this bullshit?
 

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