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[KM 749]

Because throwing paint and vandalizing public property is a rational and effective way of helping out indigenous cultures. Some "protest" they have there.

It's a shame that statues continue to look valiant and triumphant over the hooliganism that faces them while you take the trouble to get angry about it.

Spoiler: Public Vandalism

"Erected by individuals and organizations in celebration of the triumph of the human spirit over adversity"

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

Not like those peaceful Native Americans ever carried out human sacrifice, child sacrifice, or even slavery. Oh wait.

 

[friedshrimp]

In Spain they're also triggered by Columbus and have asked time and time to get down monuments of him, but the monuments are still in their place.

Fun fact, one guy I knew who was strongly anti-Columbus and all that shit tried to act all morally high about, but he wasn't above checking out and flirting with teenage girls, and he was hitting his 30s.

 

[Oglooger]

Oglooger Tell us about how Columbus is viewed in Mexico pls.

My knowledge is pretty outdated and I'm starting to forget things since it's been years since I last lived in Mexico. but last I checked, nobody complained about Christopher Columbus. Even my Socialist Grandma didn't have anything negative to say about him.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Most Latinos don't really give a crap about it, yet we're mixed in with the Natives.

 

[Vorhtbame]

As a defense of Columbus's trans-Atlantic slave trade, you have to consider that the primary reason the Spanish government was willing to fund his voyages was for profit. Hence when he came to America and couldn't find an adequate gold or mineral source, the only way he could fund his voyages, and thus find the routes to the New World and explore the land that would become America, was if he utilized the slaves.

If I remember rightly, Queen Isabella was aghast when Columbus returned with slaves from the West Indies, and made him apologize and take them back. She also tried to impose laws that would forbid enslaving anyone under Castilian rule, including the Natives.

But that contradicts the Evil White Monolith narrative so let's just ignore that she ever existed.

 

[Munchingonfish]

I have good news for whoever painted this.

 

[Yaoi Huntress Earth]

^Why bunnies tho? You'd think S.JWs wouldn't mix cute bunnies with two of the world's greatest monsters.

Actually its from a pro-Trump book (Thump: The First Bundred Days) that pokes fun at what's going on. The creator makes cute little pictures to make people laugh and annoy Trump salters.

 

[Robotron]

Here's a little something to dilute the salt via Donald Thump.

All this image makes me want to do his pet his fluffy little head.

 

[Cosmos]

Just before Columbus Day, journal pulls controversial article defending colonialism

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...defending-colonialism/?utm_term=.781a326a7b76

A comment left on this article that I wholeheartedly agree with:

Spoiler

Colonialism is indefensible, but migration, invasion, annexation, occupation and the displacement of one people by another is a global fact of human behaviour going all the way back through our historical and archaeological record. By the mid 19th, and 20th century, it was increasingly seen as being wrong, but that understanding cannot be transferred back through millennia, or now uncomfortable facts erased. All the actions of our ancestors shaped our world, but they acted within the limits of their time. Some of their actions had a positive impact, many of their actions hadn't, but condemning or erasing on the basis of our vantage point is nonsensical.

Columbus was an Italian explorer, adventurer and chancer who wrangled finance for his expedition from Spain over 500 years ago. Colonialism wasn't on his agenda when he set sail. He was looking for trade routes that bypassed the Silk Road, and discovered the Americas by chance, but by the same chance, he also reshaped the world. If indigenous folk had killed all the newcomers and burned their ships, Europe wouldn't have been any the wiser, and all would have been different, but that's not the way history stands. Columbus is a part of American history, as is Columbus Day.

It is right to study and try to understand colonialism and expansionism. We all have different views on it, but that's how knowledge and understanding grow. No view should be silenced. No one is obliged to buy the book or read an article.

The sooner this 21st century frightened and repressive puritanism dies a natural death the better. It is a very large spanner in the works of learning and freedom.

I just hate that the kneejerk response to controversial history nowadays is to destroy and bury it.

 

[c-no]

In regards to Columbus day, while it does suck what happen to the Natives and all, it's funny to see some white guy go up and sperg over Columbus Day. Far as I know most people aren't giving much of a shit save those salty by this.

On that same note, happy Leif Erikson Day.

A comment left on this article that I wholeheartedly agree with:

Spoiler

Colonialism is indefensible, but migration, invasion, annexation, occupation and the displacement of one people by another is a global fact of human behaviour going all the way back through our historical and archaeological record. By the mid 19th, and 20th century, it was increasingly seen as being wrong, but that understanding cannot be transferred back through millennia, or now uncomfortable facts erased. All the actions of our ancestors shaped our world, but they acted within the limits of their time. Some of their actions had a positive impact, many of their actions hadn't, but condemning or erasing on the basis of our vantage point is nonsensical.

Columbus was an Italian explorer, adventurer and chancer who wrangled finance for his expedition from Spain over 500 years ago. Colonialism wasn't on his agenda when he set sail. He was looking for trade routes that bypassed the Silk Road, and discovered the Americas by chance, but by the same chance, he also reshaped the world. If indigenous folk had killed all the newcomers and burned their ships, Europe wouldn't have been any the wiser, and all would have been different, but that's not the way history stands. Columbus is a part of American history, as is Columbus Day.

It is right to study and try to understand colonialism and expansionism. We all have different views on it, but that's how knowledge and understanding grow. No view should be silenced. No one is obliged to buy the book or read an article.

The sooner this 21st century frightened and repressive puritanism dies a natural death the better. It is a very large spanner in the works of learning and freedom.

I just hate that the kneejerk response to controversial history nowadays is to destroy and bury it.

What may as well be funny with knee-jerk reactions are sperging over Columbus and how the US is built on nothing but blood.

 

[Two Scoops Too Many]

>reeee colonialism

What I like about things like this is that it's not about the actual victims. It's moreso just a holiday for autistic white people to whip themselves and get insanely high off their own farts.

 

[Super Collie]

The usual follow up is complaining that the (usually white) person who points this out wouldn't be here without illegal immigration and is still "guilty" of it...which is the same argument used on the children of illegal immigrants...which can be turned around and said tha...

Let's just cut to the chase and say it's an endless circle of an argument.

You have to eventually draw a line somewhere though, and over here on this side of the line settlers established colonies that eventually bloomed into one of the greatest countries in the world and paved the way with industrialization. I doubt the spearchuckers who were here beforehand would've ascended to the same standard of living. People can bitch and moan as much as they want but Columbus as "the original illegal immigrant" resulted in the growth of a society and country that "today's illegal immigrants" will never come close to achieving. QED.

 

[Deadwaste]

columbus was kind of a dick, but even this much hate is a bit much. disagree with him all you want, but vandalism is illegal

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

The usual follow up is complaining that the (usually white) person who points this out wouldn't be here without illegal immigration and is still "guilty" of it...which is the same argument used on the children of illegal immigrants...which can be turned around and said tha...

Let's just cut to the chase and say it's an endless circle of an argument.

If I may sperg for a moment, the Natives that Colombus dealt with didn't really take the time out of their day to have rules regarding immigration apart from occasionally murdering people if they decided they didn't like them, so while he didn't have permission, what he did wasn't really "illegal" in any real sense. (I'm also not an expert on the subject so this might not be as true as I think it is.)

 

[El Garbage]

Everyone's ancestors enslaved or displaced (butchered) someone else. Crying about it hundreds or thousands of years later is retarded. It's just a thing that happened before we had enough food to feed most people.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

People are hating on the wrong Columbus. We should all instead be pointing and laughing at how far the director Chris Columbus and his company 1492 Pictures have fallen.

 

[Genghis Khan]

@Oglooger Tell us about how Columbus is viewed in Mexico pls.

Not that guy, but I doubt they care, since they have real shit to worry about (such as putting food on the table or supporting their children) and don't have opportunities to lead lackadaisical lives in ivory towers where they can practice their banshee imitation recitals. Gee, it's almost as if the people who complain are, in fact, WHITE BIGOTED FUCKING PRIVILEGED MAAAAAAAAAALES! I'm literally shaking!!!!1!11

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Everyone in my country knows that beyond discovering the islands (the particular island of the Bahamas that Columbus discovered is named San Salvador), Columbus wasn't the best of men. He was a fine sailor, but he wasn't very good at governing and leading. When the Santa Maria got too damaged to sail back to Spain, he left several men who could not fit on the two remaining ships. This was around Hispaniola, if I recall correctly.

The following year, when Columbus returned, he found the men had been slaughtered. My dad told me it was most likely they were trying to go after the local island women.

I'm not that big a textbook on this subject though, its been a long time since I took 11th Grade Bahamian History.

 

[Ineedahero]

People are hating on the wrong Columbus. We should all instead be pointing and laughing at how far the director Chris Columbus and his company 1492 Pictures have fallen.

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And we should be protesting him for making movies like pixels.