Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

Mister Dongs

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He can if his audience doesn't care which it seems they clearly don't. Fine. If the few thousand of them want to get continually fleeced to pay for late overpriced comics, then they get what they deserve.
Look I love calling Ethan fat and gay as much as the next person but if people want to pay 25 bucks for luxury-grade shiny frog comics and this pays off EVS' mortgage, no amount of calling him fat and gay is going to make him stop.
 

Adamska

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Amusing, not a response to my condition on how so can admit to growth; just general posturing in the wojak totally not mad vein to hide anger, narc rage on Ethan's part, and fear. I guess gaining 500 more unique backers is not as easy for a growing movement as thought.

Guess the Pigroach form of artificial growth by the same lot of paypigs is it for them. How sad and demonstrable signs of a stagnant movement.
 

Mister Dongs

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Meanwhile, the artist had trouble with basic anatomy and perspective, and really needed pictures of Martina in her underwear reclining and modelling for shots for him to trace over. Which she actually complied with.

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Like, imagine if she went to someone like Kyle Ritter for this? That motherfucker colored Wart the Wizard for a TikTok of Mandy Summers' flat ass, according to Warcampaign. If he had this arrangement he would have turned out an Eisner nominee within 4 weeks.
Looks like I no longer have to imagine:

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FROG

Ethan van Sciver
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Amusing, not a response to my condition on how so can admit to growth; just general posturing in the wojak totally not mad vein to hide anger, narc rage on Ethan's part, and fear. I guess gaining 500 more unique backers is not as easy for a growing movement as thought.

Guess the Pigroach form of artificial growth by the same lot of paypigs is it for them. How sad and demonstrable signs of a stagnant movement.
I answered you, though. You said that CYBERFROG wouldn't experience growth, and I said, "We'll see."

We're only 9 days into this campaign and we have 3337 backers as of this moment. It took two months to gather the 8566 backers of CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY, and that was done with nonstop livestreaming and two recorded videos per day with ads.

In other words, we're on track to surpass CFBH in both money and backers, but I could be wrong and you could be right.

My opinion is that CyberFrog is a great looking character, and success breeds more success with crowdfunding. When people see great results, they want to be a part of it. I'm feeling pretty confident that this book will exceed the last one, but it could be that everyone who wants to back it already has, and that's that.

If that's the case, it's still been incredibly profitable, but I'll concede that the churn didn't go in my favor.
 

Comicsgeist

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For those wondering, this desperate touting of success is just on the finance, because being forced to admit that people are just pay pigging and paying for either more deluxe versions out of spite or autistic speculation hurts the success story.

Sure, I fully expect at least another 1-3k more backers to show up, but that's still less than the first campaign. Less people want Rekt Planet than Blood Honey.
I'll wait for the numbers to come in but I expect a 20-30% drop in Cyberfrog backer numbers. But hey, what issue 2 doesn't have a drop like that?
2017's outbreak of open warfare between comicsgate and the industry has calmed down and as a result I'd expect numbers to fall as interest wains, but there is still a pretty solid core of hyper-loyal comicsgaters to support campaigns.
It's the other trends that that make me wonder about the long-term viability of comicsgate.

The 'We're bringing comics back the 90's!' ethos seems to include repeating all the bullshit that completely tanked the industry during that period.
The focus on glossy style over substance.
Flooding the 'shelves' with multiple campaigns at the same time.
The reliance on high prices and whale collectors rather than a growing fan base.
The multitudes of variant covers, or the comic book 'tism tax' as I refer to them.
Late and gay.
A speculator market convinced that this time the 50 books they bought will be worth something outside of a speculator bubble.
(I'm waiting for the inevitable crossovers and universe launches.)

You can take the artist out of the industry but you can't take the industry out of the artist it seems.
As a result I don't want to hear shit about how much money a campaign has made as a justification for calling it a success. Claiming success that masks falling readership with higher prices and a bewildering array of variant covers is no different to the shell game Marvel and DC are playing.

YaBoi seems to have gone off the deep end with Expendables. His philosophy of lean, mean and easy to understand campaigns has been replaced with Mike S Miller levels of utterly haphazard campaigning.

Then you have this..
$12,114 USD 224 backers 41 hours left (previous campaign made 78k)

Antonio is just fucking exceptional for launching a second book while irate backers were waiting for him to deliver on his first campaign. At one point he also intend on releasing the first issue as a free .pdf to anybody that wanted it as a promotional gimmick for the second book. Frog nearly had a stroke when he heard that and very quickly stamped on that notion.
Speaking of .pdf's.
I got my Red Rooster preview from Mitch and I have to say, I really liked what I saw, almost as much as I'm disappointed by how late that book is and the fact that Red Rooster is a textbook case of how not to crowd-fund, which is a shame, because Red Rooster is probably the best book comicsgate as produced so far (IMO) and I personally don't give a shit how late it is. I'm waiting for a comic book I backed on indiegogo, not a heart transplant. His model however suggests I won't be getting any follow up because there's no Walmart where I live. Perhaps he'll release the Allegiance books as graphic novels as some point.
 

instythot

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No, that's what you guys did when Doug Tennapel said he wasn't down with the gays because of his Christian beliefs. And, coincidentally, what you continue to do when he keeps succeeding, despite your best efforts.
He literally cannot help himself. It's amazing. Any criticism of him, and in a containment thread on a niche website, simply cannot go unanswered

How long until he pops in to post his own outline as bantz?
 

jspit

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I'll wait for the numbers to come in but I expect a 20-30% drop in Cyberfrog backer numbers. But hey, what issue 2 doesn't have a drop like that?
You can take the artist out of the industry but you can't take the industry out of the artist it seems.
As a result I don't want to hear shit about how much money a campaign has made as a justification for calling it a success. Claiming success that masks falling readership with higher prices and a bewildering array of variant covers is no different to the shell game Marvel and DC are playing.
These ideas aren't compatible.

More, a central idea/claim was there are a bunch of comic readers who aren't reading but we brining them back, a decline in readers or even just roughly similar numbers puts that as a lie. It shows that what you have is a slice of an existing market. One that has money it is willing to spend on non-comic side stuff.

YaBoi seems to have gone off the deep end with Expendables. His philosophy of lean, mean and easy to understand campaigns has been replaced with Mike S Miller levels of utterly haphazard campaigning.

Then you have this..
$12,114 USD 224 backers 41 hours left (previous campaign made 78k)

Antonio is just fucking exceptional for launching a second book while irate backers were waiting for him to deliver on his first campaign. At one point he also intend on releasing the first issue as a free .pdf to anybody that wanted it as a promotional gimmick for the second book. Frog nearly had a stroke when he heard that and very quickly stamped on that notion.

Speaking of .pdf's.

I got my Red Rooster preview from Mitch and I have to say, I really liked what I saw, almost as much as I'm disappointed by how late that book is and the fact that Red Rooster is a textbook case of how not to crowd-fund, which is a shame, because Red Rooster is probably the best book comicsgate as produced so far (IMO) and I personally don't give a shit how late it is. I'm waiting for a comic book I backed on indiegogo, not a heart transplant. His model however suggests I won't be getting any follow up because there's no Walmart where I live. Perhaps he'll release the Allegiance books as graphic novels as some point.
This actually belongs in the main thread. Its not drama at all. Different circumstances, access to affordable back issues is a good idea. Problem is Brand isn't even out and it cost a ridiculous amount of money, naturally people will feel screwed over by him releasing it for free.

At this point, are Richard and Jon Malin the only CG people with their shit together?
 

verissimus

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At this point, are Richard and Jon Malin the only CG people with their shit together?
Not Richard because both Jawbreaker comics were late correct (and yes, we all know why the first one was). I forgot on top of my head if either Iron Sight comics were on time.
 

Detrogen

Senior Citizen Virgin
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Not Richard because both Jawbreaker comics were late correct (and yes, we all know why the first one was). I forgot on top of my head if either Iron Sight comics were on time.
Iron Sights was a month or two late because he was fulfilling from his friend’s house.
 

Adamska

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Hopefully Zack works something out with Alterna because this paying 15 bucks for a 22 page black and white floppy is something I'm not feelin'.
Yeah, it's more something I'd be cool with as a trade book, where you make a small batch of comics and bind them together based on an arc or somthing. I like square bindings damn it.
 
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Mister Dongs

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In Lady Alchemy news, after securing a powerful pet simp in Kyle Ritter, Martina Markota has been crowned "Queen of WARCAMPAIGN" by Ro Kabir and, fittingly, she has started her rule in true WC style by posting shops of her former artist and the Dick Show producer having gay sex after an inaugural speech about how groypers and tradcaths like them "essentially are gay men that hate anything feminine and prefer either cat bois, trannies, or underage girls over a real woman" (true) . Long may She reign.

But this title is (god knows why) not uncontested. Armed with her own pet simp in Peter Gilmore, top CG e-girl Mandy Summers, having bested weak contenders like ComicbookgirlAva and Nerdette (FUG doesn't qualify), has decided to take a page out of Ya Boi Zack's book by surprise releasing her own erotica book "Hardcore Pornosaurus" available on Amazon Kindle. In the face of dino-on-woman sex, Anti-CG reactions have ceased being enraged at Comicsgate with this development and can now be best described as "confused" and "scared".

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But, as those of us familiar with e-girls know, in the end there's only room for one woman at the top of the online nerd pyramid.
Will the more, uh, let's go with worldly Martina wrest this crown, or will the southern charm and more wholesome, innocent thottery of Mandy win the day? We'll see.
 
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