Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

[FROG]

I haven't checked in here in days. Too busy doing drama livestreams for outrage bucks.

Good review from Ivan Shatov, thanks.

Look. A SIXTH IGG for the same book! https://igg.me/at/yDMtPYQbS1g/x/3778633#/

 

[Stoneheart]

Look. A SIXTH IGG for the same book!

No new Cover? thats lame! or you are just to lazy to get an artist outside of your bubble.
there are plenty of good Artist out there who realy need the job, i mean have you seen how bad the only adult Comic Magazine is doing?

 

[FROG]

No new Cover? thats lame! or you are just to lazy to get an artist outside of your bubble.
there are plenty of good Artist out there who realy need the job, i mean have you seen how bad the only adult Comic Magazine is doing?

No, I don't have any plans to do another cover for CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY. Maybe in a year or two, but not right now. I overprinted the ashcans by 50% and I had nearly 2000 extra chromium books between the first two covers combined. So I'm selling those. They're pure profit now. I'm moving on to REKT PLANET.

But I did make a poster of one of the Jae Lee covers I paid handsomely for! It's 24 by 36 inches, a really nice piece of art.

That's the new item on this campaign, and so far it's doing pretty good.

 

[Stoneheart]

No, I don't have any plans to do another cover for CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY. Maybe in a year or two, but not right now.

You should get heavy metal as a subscription, just to check out some of their artists. Quality went down but its still miles ahead of Superhero comics and the style is different enough to make for good variant covers. Its also a tax write off.

 

[huckbeine]

Now you’re just projecting. Lot’s of people have gotten back into comics because of Ethan. Lots of People call into his lives to tell him that all of the time. I’m just one of many.

as for the 15 dollar campaigns how does me Saying that 25 dollars is the norm equate to me believing that 15 dollar campaigns are negligibly small or practically nonexistent? What I am saying is that 25 dollars is more common than a 15 dollar campaign, especially when the crowdfund owner has a big platform.

are you sure you got inspired by Ethan's art, and not his ability to grift? I mean, come on, that is some pretty ass money, still weak sauce compared to making furry porn though.

I mean, there are so many more artists that you can be inspired of, like Yusuke Murata, who draws damn good.

(I mean, just look at that, fucking damn, and all done with copics)
Or even, heck, Ilya, who just kept tracing and tracing drawings till he gut gud, and now, he is the concept artist for Ghost in the Shell

So, you know, I kinda question your moral fabric and integrity if great artists like Murata didn't inspire you, or a literal rags to riches success story of Ilya didn't inspire you, but Ethan's crowdfunding comic book success did inspire you.

Anyway, I think I have been too harsh on that kamenrider-guyver manga comicsgate guy. Tell you what, post your art, and I will actually give you advice, real advice. No sugarcoating, but the real truth. I mean, sure I can't draw properly anymore, but I had experience in comics/manga, 3d animation, traditional animation. My advice will be based on my experience in how ugly yet beautiful the industry is.

 

[TrunksFromDragonballGT]

are you sure you got inspired by Ethan's art, and not his ability to grift? I mean, come on, that is some pretty ass money, still weak sauce compared to making furry porn though.

I mean, there are so many more artists that you can be inspired of, like Yusuke Murata, who draws damn good.
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(I mean, just look at that, fucking damn, and all done with copics)
Or even, heck, Ilya, who just kept tracing and tracing drawings till he gut gud, and now, he is the concept artist for Ghost in the Shell
View attachment 1099223

So, you know, I kinda question your moral fabric and integrity if great artists like Murata didn't inspire you, or a literal rags to riches success story of Ilya didn't inspire you, but Ethan's crowdfunding comic book success did inspire you.

Anyway, I think I have been too harsh on that kamenrider-guyver manga comicsgate guy. Tell you what, post your art, and I will actually give you advice, real advice. No sugarcoating, but the real truth. I mean, sure I can't draw properly anymore, but I had experience in comics/manga, 3d animation, traditional animation. My advice will be based on my experience in how ugly yet beautiful the industry is.

One, Ethan is not a grifter. At the time joining Comicsgate was his best because SJWs canceled him over art he did a decade ago. He has charisma and knows how to market his product. He also gives people a chance to promote their product on his channel. If you’ve seen his lives lately then you would see that he does give back In the form of advice on how you run a successful campaign and what you need to do so.

Two, I draw inspiration from lots of artists. The two you artists you mentioned I know nothing about, but I’ve seen their work given that they are big manga artists.

Lastly, yeah you were harsh on the manga guy. The artist was only 17 with lots of room to grow.

now for the tough part... I just know I’m gonna catch a bunch of negative ratings for this, but here goes.
I will post my a page of a comic I’m working on, but only because I need a good proper roasting critque to get better.

What I consider to be the best page of the comic I’m working on over in the CWC forum.




As you can see, I’m no Uncle Ethan, Murat or Ilya, but I do what I can and a good roasting is appreciated.

 

[huckbeine]

One, Ethan is not a grifter. At the time joining Comicsgate was his best because SJWs canceled him over art he did a decade ago. He has charisma and knows how to market his product. He also gives people a chance to promote their product on his channel. If you’ve seen his lives lately then you would see that he does give back In the form of advice on how you run a successful campaign and what you need to do so.

Two, I draw inspiration from lots of artists. The two you artists you mentioned I know nothing about, but I’ve seen their work given that they are big manga artists.

Lastly, yeah you were harsh on the manga guy. The artist was only 17 with lots of room to grow.

now for the tough part... I just know I’m gonna catch a bunch of negative ratings for this, but here goes.
I will post my a page of a comic I’m working on, but only because I need a good proper roasting critque to get better.

What I consider to be the best page of the comic I’m working on over in the CWC forum.

As you can see, I’m no Uncle Ethan, Murat or Ilya, but I do what I can and a good roasting is appreciated.

>actually thinking SJWs can cancel you
You can only be canceled when you decided to be canceled. Back in the days of yore, I became a pariah in the comics industry because of my opinions and there was no SJWs even back then. I drew comics on bond paper, xeroxed it, and talked to comicbook shops to try consign my comics. I even bootstrapped myself to even buy a small printing equipment that went bankrupt to produce my own comics, until I realize, I didn't really love comics that much to suffer for it, and I walked away, basically canceling myself. In fact, there are so many ways to make/produce/publish your own comics nowadays, its laughable to think you can be actually "canceled"

Anyway, we're here to talk about your art, and that we shall do.

(Trunks looks traced in comparison with the others, so I'll not comment on that)
First, you do have a basic grasp on anatomy, but definitely have trouble on translating on what you envision on your mind to how you draw it and you probably have the wrong references to study anatomy from.
Second, on your faces, you rely too much on the mouth to convey expressions. I do notice that you keep drawing female lips fully. stop that, its ugly, there's actually no need to line the upper lip fully.
Yeah, let's improve on the anatomy first before we can comment on the clothes. But a small note, try to check some fashion. plain shirt and jeans (even on the women), are what fucking lazy artists do.

As for the paneling, remember, comics are sequential art. Everything must flow in order. Trunks is facing right, but on the bottom panel Trunks is facing left. the reader's brain will tell that its weird.

Anyway, we could go on. but we are here to improve your art.
1. Try drawing the same face in different angles. I can't exactly put it into words, but your drawing falls apart when you try to draw in angles you are not accustomed to, probably you never tried to draw your drawings as 3d objects, that's why it looks really flat. practice it. kinda something like this

2. Try drawing eyes only that convery different emotions. As they say, eyes are the windows to the soul, one look at the eyes must tell the viewer what the character is feeling. For practice, try drawing eyes and eyebrows showing different emotions. when you are proficient at it, try drawing it without eyebrows.
3. since you are still not good at it, sketch it FIRST!
sketching will allow you to know the proper placement of the eyes, nose and mouth in relation to the face.

4.really get a good reference for anatomy. Really. get one, it will help a lot in ways you cannot imagine.

 

[TrunksFromDragonballGT]

>actually thinking SJWs can cancel you
You can only be canceled when you decided to be canceled. Back in the days of yore, I became a pariah in the comics industry because of my opinions and there was no SJWs even back then. I drew comics on bond paper, xeroxed it, and talked to comicbook shops to try consign my comics. I even bootstrapped myself to even buy a small printing equipment that went bankrupt to produce my own comics, until I realize, I didn't really love comics that much to suffer for it, and I walked away, basically canceling myself. In fact, there are so many ways to make/produce/publish your own comics nowadays, its laughable to think you can be actually "canceled"

Anyway, we're here to talk about your art, and that we shall do.

(Trunks looks traced in comparison with the others, so I'll not comment on that)
First, you do have a basic grasp on anatomy, but definitely have trouble on translating on what you envision on your mind to how you draw it and you probably have the wrong references to study anatomy from.
Second, on your faces, you rely too much on the mouth to convey expressions. I do notice that you keep drawing female lips fully. stop that, its ugly, there's actually no need to line the upper lip fully.
Yeah, let's improve on the anatomy first before we can comment on the clothes. But a small note, try to check some fashion. plain shirt and jeans (even on the women), are what fucking lazy artists do.

As for the paneling, remember, comics are sequential art. Everything must flow in order. Trunks is facing right, but on the bottom panel Trunks is facing left. the reader's brain will tell that its weird.

Anyway, we could go on. but we are here to improve your art.
1. Try drawing the same face in different angles. I can't exactly put it into words, but your drawing falls apart when you try to draw in angles you are not accustomed to, probably you never tried to draw your drawings as 3d objects, that's why it looks really flat. practice it. kinda something like this
View attachment 1099370
2. Try drawing eyes only that convery different emotions. As they say, eyes are the windows to the soul, one look at the eyes must tell the viewer what the character is feeling. For practice, try drawing eyes and eyebrows showing different emotions. when you are proficient at it, try drawing it without eyebrows.
3. since you are still not good at it, sketch it FIRST!
sketching will allow you to know the proper placement of the eyes, nose and mouth in relation to the face.
View attachment 1099376
4.really get a good reference for anatomy. Really. get one, it will help a lot in ways you cannot imagine.

thank you for the critique and advice. I really appreciate it! There‘s a book called Guide to Drawing From Life written by George Brdgeman that I’m waiting for in the mail. Everything that you said about my drawing of faces is dead on and I’ll start doing those exercises you suggested. You’re also right about the clothes, It’s lazy as fuck, but that goes back to me not being used to drawing things in 3-D.

While your critique has made me self conscious of my art, at the same time, I really needed it. Again, I thank you. I guess I have a long way to go before I come out with my own book.

 

[Stoneheart]

@FROG can you have a stream with the Clownfish TV guy? would be nice to hear about the view from the Disney side of Comics.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Look. A SIXTH IGG for the same book! https://igg.me/at/yDMtPYQbS1g/x/3778633#/

Dammit.

You posted that the day after I bought the Chromium cover off eBay.

 

[FROG]

@FROG can you have a stream with the Clownfish TV guy? would be nice to hear about the view from the Disney side of Comics.

Sure, I really like Clownfish TV. Good stuff.

Dammit.

You posted that the day after I bought the Chromium cover off eBay.

Did you pay more for it than $40 plus shipping?

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Did you pay more for it than $40 plus shipping?

Yeah. But we're fine, it was my mistake. Your new IGG page addresses my complaint.

 

[Veronica]

No, I don't have any plans to do another cover for CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY. Maybe in a year or two, but not right now. I overprinted the ashcans by 50% and I had nearly 2000 extra chromium books between the first two covers combined. So I'm selling those. They're pure profit now. I'm moving on to REKT PLANET.

But I did make a poster of one of the Jae Lee covers I paid handsomely for! It's 24 by 36 inches, a really nice piece of art.

That's the new item on this campaign, and so far it's doing pretty good.

Rumors out there that you are some kind of fascist and a sex freak who has been involved in gay and bi-sexual fuck fests. And from what they say you became the Corey Haim of comic book artists and like Haim blamed Feldman, you blame some ex CG guys for not saving you from your molesters. Not sure if those rumors are true but your sick behavior and you always being surrounded by guys obsessed with penises, kinda makes it sound legit.

 

[Adamska]

Rumors out there that you are some kind of fascist and a sex freak who has been involved in gay and bi-sexual fuck fests. And from what they say you became the Corey Haim of comic book artists and like Haim blamed Feldman, you blame some ex CG guys for not saving you from your molesters. Not sure if those rumors are true but your sick behavior and you always being surrounded by guys obsessed with penises, kinda makes it sound legit.

Why do you faggots keep gay posting, which has proven to be unfunny shit?

Is my hypothesis that you're just a bunch of false flagging idiots designed to make critics look bad true? Because given you guys STILL can't be fucked to make a proper thread on Ethan with good deets and just do this shit, it really does seem to be the case.

I'm just gonna treat this shit as being an asset from now on.

 

[Veronica]

Why do you faggots keep gay posting, which has proven to be unfunny shit?

Is my hypothesis that you're just a bunch of false flagging idiots designed to make critics look bad true? Because given you guys STILL can't be fucked to make a proper thread on Ethan with good deets and just do this shit, it really does seem to be the case.

I'm just gonna treat this shit as being an asset from now on.

Are you his whore or what? Why does he have loyal butt boys always running to his defense? And you butt boys with the gay hard ons for his fat ass are so quick to call others gay. We'll never guess you are gay! LOL! People ask him something, you come running in with you panties on and answer for him.

You're such a goddamn pussy that you run your mouth and then block anyone who doesn't lay down for you. So do that thing you do little man. Put on your blocking panties and defend your fucking old cocksucker hero because he's such a weak pussy he needs you Cocksucker-Patrol to protect him.

 

[AnOminous]

Are you his whore or what? Why does he have loyal butt boys always running to his defense? And you butt boys with the gay hard ons for his fat ass are so quick to call others gay. We'll never guess you are gay! LOL! People ask him something, you come running in with you panties on and answer for him.

You're such a goddamn pussy that you run your mouth and then block anyone who doesn't lay down for you. So do that thing you do little man. Put on your blocking panties and defend your fucking old cocksucker hero because he's such a weak pussy he needs you Cocksucker-Patrol to protect him.

You sound mad as fuck.

 

[KingofNothing]

Are you his whore or what? Why does he have loyal butt boys always running to his defense? And you butt boys with the gay hard ons for his fat ass are so quick to call others gay. We'll never guess you are gay! LOL! People ask him something, you come running in with you panties on and answer for him.

You're such a goddamn pussy that you run your mouth and then block anyone who doesn't lay down for you. So do that thing you do little man. Put on your blocking panties and defend your fucking old cocksucker hero because he's such a weak pussy he needs you Cocksucker-Patrol to protect him.

Imagine being this mad about someone drawing frog books

 

[TrunksFromDragonballGT]

Are you his whore or what? Why does he have loyal butt boys always running to his defense? And you butt boys with the gay hard ons for his fat ass are so quick to call others gay. We'll never guess you are gay! LOL! People ask him something, you come running in with you panties on and answer for him.

You're such a goddamn pussy that you run your mouth and then block anyone who doesn't lay down for you. So do that thing you do little man. Put on your blocking panties and defend your fucking old cocksucker hero because he's such a weak pussy he needs you Cocksucker-Patrol to protect him.

No one is blocking you, sperg. Fall back already, there is no need to bust an artery over comic books.

 

[verissimus]

You sound mad as fuck.

Wouldn't that mean he's in the right place though?

 

[FROG]

I'm closing down the CYBERFROG LINE ART VARIANTS campaign at just over $75,000.

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